[dean1210]

And a right wing government who cut police funding have helped the situation?

[Steevee]

(Original post by Kibalchich)
What intervention from Europe?

VArious 'Human Rights' interventions and the pathetic EHRC.

[revisionnightmare]

(Original post by Doto)
EDIT: OPSIE - responsable

Why do you think the Police aren't putting these things down swiftly and ruthlessly?
because left wing media and left wing idiots are going to bombard the police and compare britain to syria.....
Liberals made this countries youth out of control.

Maybe even yesterday I would have disagreed with you, but what these people need is a good police beating. They're taking the **** now, it's embarrassing.

[Mazty]

Damn right, though this is probably going to cause a backlash of extremely harsh ruling and power, though maybe for the better?

[tillytots]

Psh the people involved in the riots probably don't even know who the prime minister is. Politics has nothing to do with it, it's just people being hooligans.

[TopHat]

This is an apolitical matter and to attribute it to any party is indicative of a worrying mind. These riots occurred under the Thatcher administration and more heavy-handed police didn't seem to quell them effectively then, either - in fact, it lead to the murder of a policeman in response. This is a problem that every Westminster party needs to look at. The police can't prevent crimes like this, only react to them. Labour, the Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives should all like at why crimes like this occur, rather what can be done about them once they've already started.

[DYKWIA]

(Original post by Kibalchich)
Liberal means economically right wing over here.

That's stupid and it kinda ruined my joke. Why not just use the same meaning as us? Or are you confusing liberal with libertarian?

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by DYKWIA)
That's stupid and it kinda ruined my joke. Why not just use the same meaning as us? Or are you confusing liberal with libertarian?

You might care to read this article from The Freedom Association, a right wing pressure group set up by the men who founded the Guinness Book of Records.

http://www.tfa.net/the_freedom_assoc...-problems.html

[justlol]

http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1732617

Why the uproar middle-class banker wannabes?
The shenanigans of the bankers over the last decade and particularly 2003-2008 has done more harm to small and medium enterprise and middle class famalies than what these rioters could hope to accomplish in a year, doing exactly what they are doing, day in day out.

There are many wannabe financiers on this forum, aswell as lawyers (who didn't do too badly in the boom years either) who will steal more (legally) in the future (yes I'm sure of that) than what these muppets have thus far or could dream of stealing.

You guys are clowns. I think I've made my point, I can't be bothered at this time to dig the knife in any further.

Fire away!

[micky022]

(Original post by Steevee)
They are the people that cry out every time a student has a boo-boo on their knee. The people that say kettling is inhumane and that the Police can never injure anybody. The people that blame the economy and abdicate all responsibility for the scum's actions from themselves. The limp wristed liberals are responsible for this countries change in standards, from 60 years ago to today.

There is a difference between kettling a political protest and putting down a riot. Frankly, the TA and the water cannons should be out now.

[Steevee]

(Original post by micky022)
There is a difference between kettling a political protest and putting down a riot. Frankly, the TA and the water cannons should be out now.

I agree. The problem is we have a legacy of powerless Police now. Any injury to somebody by the Police and the Police are immediatley state sponsered thugs who hate the public or some such nonsense. Every Police officer is hung out to dry by the media, and the IPCC are always looking for a scapegoat. We have a Police force more afriad of hurting people than they are of doing their jobs.

[WelshBluebird]

This has nothing to do with politics really. Only really related to policing cuts.

[micky022]

(Original post by Steevee)
I agree. The problem is we have a legacy of powerless Police now. Any injury to somebody by the Police and the Police are immediatley state sponsered thugs who hate the public or some such nonsense. Every Police officer is hung out to dry by the media, and the IPCC are always looking for a scapegoat. We have a Police force more afriad of hurting people than they are of doing their jobs.

I wouldn't say they were powerless, but certainly crucified by the media at every turn. A whiff of anything less than heroic and the papers and news start tearing the police apart as if they're going to expose some kind of massive conspiracy of evil.

[WelshBluebird]

Oh, and those saying the police feel like they can't do anything, remember there is a massive difference to over policing of a protest / police brutality, and the police reacting to a full scale riot that is nothing but sheer criminality. I would very much doubt the media or the public would have any issues with the police using force in this situation.

[lao tzu]

i would agree that these riots are the result of weak left wing justice policy i would not say liberal i am liberal but i support the death penalty and tough criminal justice measures.


these rioters should be rounded up and gassed i say. they are the dregs of humanity and should not be in civilized society. pandering to their criminal demands will simply give them reason to carry on.

[the realist]

(Original post by Kibalchich)
Liberal means economically right wing over here.

lol, no one is economically right wing over here.

[the realist]

(Original post by justlol)
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1732617

Why the uproar middle-class banker wannabes?
The shenanigans of the bankers over the last decade and particularly 2003-2008 has done more harm to small and medium enterprise and middle class famalies than what these rioters could hope to accomplish in a year, doing exactly what they are doing, day in day out.

There are many wannabe financiers on this forum, aswell as lawyers (who didn't do too badly in the boom years either) who will steal more (legally) in the future (yes I'm sure of that) than what these muppets have thus far or could dream of stealing.

You guys are clowns. I think I've made my point, I can't be bothered at this time to dig the knife in any further.

Fire away!

Agreed.

Still can't stand these little youts.