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    I'm totally not looking forward to dissection :erm:

    (assuming I hopefully get an offer)
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    (Original post by Democracy)
    I find mnemonic devices to be very useful. There are some famous ones which generations of students have used e.g. two zulus buggered my cat for branches of the facial nerve. I also make up my own ones. They all tend to revolve around sex and swear words so that should tell you what's on most students' minds. Of course, the profs may supply you with wholesome PC ones, but I find them less easy to remember
    Sounds like it helps a lot :yep:

    Not surprised at all :teehee: Though, I may ask you for some of your mnemonics if I get in and haha

    There is (and this is not just about anatomy, it's a general comment about uni education) a healthy amount of cramming involved too, in the nights leading up to the exam which means that roughly two days after you've sat the exam you've forgotten most of what you know, or at least the nitty gritty little details. However, this may not be the case as the MBBS curriculum is different to a life sciences BSc.
    Not surprised lol, but good to know


    The histology? It is quite difficult at first but you do definitely get better the more samples you view. And of course you learn to make educated guesses. A combination of these methods gained me a distinction in my last histology exam and I'm a total dunce when it comes to spotters :dunce:
    Yeah :sadnod: Thanks for the advice and the info

    Don't stress and good luck with your interview!
    I am trying not to :erm: THANK YOU!
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    (Original post by ViceVersa)
    Sounds like it helps a lot :yep:

    Not surprised at all :teehee: Though, I may ask you for some of your mnemonics if I get in and haha



    Not surprised lol, but good to know




    Yeah :sadnod: Thanks for the advice and the info



    I am trying not to :erm: THANK YOU!
    WHEN* :yep:
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    (Original post by chocolate_pies)
    Ucas themselves seem unhappy with the system - see below:
    http://www.ucas.com/documents/qirevi...on_english.pdf
    That's irrelevant, when they say UCAS tariff they mean when giving offers, some universities give offers of 360 points not AAA, so A*AB or A*A*C would be sufficient in lieu of AAA.

    They aren't referring to using UCAS Tariff as a means of selecting for interview, it would seem a bit silly for UCAS to have made an entire report when AFAIK Barts and the London is the only place that selects like this, for medicine or other wise.
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    (Original post by ViceVersa)
    You were exactly the same I dunno really, one more thing to be excited about I guess. I'd just like to know I got the chance to do it, even if I hated it after. I've always not liked the idea of anatomy tbf, nor have I thought it would be largely fascinating, so I am aware of this and indeed it's a strong possibility I'll hate it anyway. I'd just like to try dissection, and give anatomy a go is all :dontknow: I hate having regrets.

    I hate that idea even more :sigh:
    How do you feel about giving injections, venapuncture and stuff like that?
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    (Original post by Normandy114)
    That's irrelevant, when they say UCAS tariff they mean when giving offers, some universities give offers of 360 points not AAA, so A*AB or A*A*C would be sufficient in lieu of AAA.

    They aren't referring to using UCAS Tariff as a means of selecting for interview, it would seem a bit silly for UCAS to have made an entire report when AFAIK Barts and the London is the only place that selects like this, for medicine or other wise.
    Ucas have made a report on the use of ucas tariff in general. It appears to be looking at entry requirements, decisions made about interviews, offers and confirmation of places.

    Information about qualifications is an important
    factor in admissions to HE. Universities and
    colleges use this information in a variety of
    ways: to inform both entry requirements and
    the decisions that institutions make in relation
    to interviews, offers, and the confirmation
    of places.
    In 2001 UCAS introduced the Tariff mechanism
    to facilitate comparisons between different
    kinds of qualifications. However, during the last
    decade, the number, diversity and complexity
    of qualifications offering pathways to HE has
    expanded substantially. Concerns have grown
    that the Tariff mechanism lacks sufficient
    flexibility to keep pace with the changing nature
    of the qualifications environment and is being
    used for purposes for which it was not
    designed.
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    (Original post by Medicine Man)
    Actually, and this caught me off guard, a lot (or rather a larger than expected number) of the students that I spoke to in the interview waiting room seem to have applied all over the country and to BL as their only London medical school choice.
    (Original post by Medicine Man)
    In my experience, I've noticed that people living in/around London generally tend to apply to more than one London medical school whereas people from outside London tend to apply to 1 (or maybe 2 at a push) London medical school(s). This is of course a massive generalisation, as is what you've said, which basically means, no one can really tell to be totally honest. Surprising as this may seem, some people actually want to firm BL when they initially apply - I've got a couple of friends here who really wanted to come here. And tbh, it is MUCH better deciding on offers after the interviewing cycle is finished (albeit a little annoying for applicants) as it gives people who happened to be interviewed earlier no added advantage.
    I'm one of these.
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    (Original post by chocolate_pies)
    Another example of how the tariff system is unfair:

    A levels: Biology (A), Chem (B), Maths (B), GS (A) AS level: Physics (A)

    Tot = 500 points


    A levels: Biology (A*), Chem (A*), Maths(A*) AS level: Physics (A)

    Tot = 480 points

    Who is the student with the most potential?

    It looks like no applicants with 3 A levels and 1 AS has been offered an interviewed - this does seem unfair.

    Ucas themselves seem unhappy with the system - see below:
    i totally agree that it's unfair that the student with the most potential has less ucas tariff points

    but i just want to point out that people with 3 Alevels and 1AS level have been interviewed - like me
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    (Original post by Muattaz.Kazzam)
    How did your interview go? i was at 1.55 btw
    it was okay thanks, they were really friendly, what about you?
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    (Original post by DoaaK)
    i totally agree that it's unfair that the student with the most potential has less ucas tariff points

    but i just want to point out that people with 3 Alevels and 1AS level have been interviewed - like me
    Hmm, but some students with 510 points that are still waiting for an interview. Do you have any idea why? Could I ask how many ucas points you have?
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    (Original post by chocolate_pies)
    Hmm, but some students with 510 points that are still waiting for an interview. Do you have any idea why? Could I ask how many ucas points you have?
    Because it may be that Barts aren't JUST looking at UCAS points alone? There could be a lot of other things to take into account. We don't know for sure, but to be honest, there's not much that can be done unfortunately for the people who couldn't get an interview.
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    Anyone else realised how it's nearly march and this is nearly all over?

    I mean, A week wednesday guys.
    That's like 10 days.
    240 hours
    14400 minutes
    Then it begins. . .
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    (Original post by Revent)
    Because it may be that Barts aren't JUST looking at UCAS points alone? There could be a lot of other things to take into account. We don't know for sure, but to be honest, there's not much that can be done unfortunately for the people who couldn't get an interview.
    Then the website and admissions policy don't have any mention of other factors being considered. Admissions policies are set so that all applicants know exactly how the selection process works before applying.
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    (Original post by Democracy)
    It always amuses me to see medicine/life sciences pre-freshers getting all excited over anatomy (and yes, I was exactly the same) and usually after the second practical half of the class realise they actually hate the subject. Aside from the amusing mnemonics you can construct for remembering various things, anatomy really isn't that fascinating imho.

    Though having said that, anything beats the histology lab and the associated spotter tests. ****s.
    It may be boring as **** but it's important as ****
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    (Original post by joemullally)
    Anyone else realised how it's nearly march and this is nearly all over?

    I mean, A week wednesday guys.
    That's like 10 days.
    240 hours
    14400 minutes
    Then it begins. . .
    We must make an official countdown! :argh:
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    (Original post by Notsocleverstudent)
    It may be boring as **** but it's important as ****
    Please tell me more :daydreaming:
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    (Original post by Democracy)
    Please tell me more :daydreaming:
    That's all for today sadly
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    (Original post by Revent)
    WHEN* :yep:
    Oh Revent :rolleyes:

    (Original post by Cleoleo)
    How do you feel about giving injections, venapuncture and stuff like that?
    I don't mind. Looking forward to (hoping I get in this year) learning how to do it. I'm generally excited about most things at the moment to do with the medical course/doctor's role

    Yourself? Are those less interesting ideas than anatomy to you?

    (Original post by joemullally)
    Anyone else realised how it's nearly march and this is nearly all over? I mean, A week wednesday guys. That's like 10 days. 240 hours 14400 minutes Then it begins. . .
    I'm terrified, can't believe it's less than a month to go :afraid:

    (Original post by Tench)
    We must make an official countdown! :argh:
    But we do not know of the official day :puppyeyes:
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    I have my interview today
    So nervous!!
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    (Original post by ViceVersa)
    Oh Revent :rolleyes:



    I don't mind. Looking forward to (hoping I get in this year) learning how to do it. I'm generally excited about most things at the moment to do with the medical course/doctor's role

    Yourself? Are those less interesting ideas than anatomy to you?



    I'm terrified, can't believe it's less than a month to go :afraid:



    But we do not know of the official day :puppyeyes:
    :laugh: We all know it's true

    I'm really looking forward to learning about the liver and heart at the moment Really not looking forward to anatomy, dissection and the kidneys :p:

    What were you doing up at that time? :eek: :lolwut: (I was up doing physics, but wasn't on TSR )

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