Why did Mark Duggan 'deserve' to be killed ?

Destroying the family? How exactly? Surely no benefits at all would destroy more families as we'd see starving kids on the streets.

Although the circumstances are yet to be determined, whether he shot at police, etc, one fact that has not been disputed is that he had a loaded gun. The police almost certainly knew that he was armed, hence the reason for the armed police carrying out the stop. It's not something that was only discovered when they searched his corpse.

Should it come out later that he was actually going for his gun, but was too slow, I expect you will probably slink off like all the other trolls here.

Regardless of whether he was or not, he was off on his way with an illegal weapon, loaded and ready for use, possibly even on his way to use it on a rival. Until everthing has come out, the police need to be given the benefit of the doubt, but I doubt there will be any surprises. Good riddance to bad rubbish in my opinion.

Broken homes, benefits and black culture....

No benefits means scummy people wouldn't have so many kids and breed armies of scum.

he had it coming,he shouldnt have being holding a gun illegally and shouldnt have being part of thestupid riots.........RIOTS=Real Idiots Of The Streets

"black culture"? Wtf does that mean?

Oh and you've avoided my question.

You know how all those rioters were like ''i'm a bad man innit, ya get me blud, man dem''....

That's not a normal attitude to have.

agreed he was filth. he shot the police and police felt his life was being threatened.

He didn't shoot the police.

You know how all those rioters were like ''i'm a bad man innit, ya get me blud, man dem''....

That's not a normal attitude to have.

Why would ANYONE think the fact he had a gun means he deserved death ??
We live in a society where murderers and rapists get mickey mouse sentences.

Serial killers are given 12 years in prison. Rapists are given 2 years in prison.

In the UK the average sentence for murder is 12 years. Most sexual assault and peadophilia charges are given suspended sentences. Some murderers get let out after 6 years with good behaviour.

We have famous cases of people who raped and killed given 16 years in jail.

If found guilty the penalty for possession of a prohibited firearm without a certificate is a maximum of ten years in prison and an uncapped fine.

Unauthorised possession of most kinds of firearm attract a mandatory minimum of five years.

So if found guilty Mark Duggan should will be spending at least 5 years in prison

Nothing more.

I don't get people stating he 'deserved' death simply for possessing a gun at the time the police stopped him.

If people who rape and murder are going to one day walk out of prison to live a free life, I don't see why he 'deserved' to die.


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+rep.

He was suspected to have a gun, therefore the police had to be armed to protect themselves, they hadn't aimed the gun at him, wanting to use it, let alone to kill him, it was used as a precaution, then as the risk level got higher and the officers were becoming more at risk, the last resort the officers thought necessary was to shoot him.
I haven't heard anyone saying he deserved to die for carrying a gun, I agree that is harsh and wrong. If he did have a gun maybe it was for safety from other gang members, but the bottom line is, he wasn't shot and killed for being suspected of carrying a gun, he was shot because he posed as a risk to the officers

Logical fallacy is illogical...


I feel that most people would agree that what the listed people were given was not what they deserved...



(If he had a gun) as you've highlighted with many differing example, he would've been given a pathetic sentence. Provided he did actually have a gun, I definitely prefer that he was killed...

Seriously, what do people think guns are used for? At best he would use it to threaten/control people and I doubt anyone needs me to paint a picture of the worse case senerio...




*I'm under the assumption that he had a gun, but if the IPCC report says he didn't, then obviously his death was wrong...

He didn't. You need to realise that many police officers are thugs themselves. I know how certain members of the police operate having been on the receiving end of police brutality yet I've never done anything criminal.

Is that supposed to be "black culture" btw? How come my black mates don't talk like that? How come I know white and asian people who talk like that?

So what would the point of possesion or attempted murder charges be then if everyone who posseses a gun should be killed ?

Why is levi bellfield who killed three women including a 13 year old in the most degrading manner ever chilling in jail watching tv and eating whilst someone who carried a gun should be killed ?

How does that even make any sense.

Any group you look at, has 'members' who are thugs.


If someone was mugged/attacked by a black person, they would be an idiot to tar all black people with that brush. (And even more of an idiot to start burning down random peoples homes after...)



No one will deny that there are police officers who do target black/young people of any race, but they are in the minority and only an idiot would apply it across the board...

Except he didn't did he? As predicted by anyone with an ounce of nous, the Met have been found to be lying. Again.

Erm... where exactly was the lie? Point it out for me...