[qwerty_st/n]

(Original post by mangomaz)
I agree with djdj, I personally find they're not a good mix. Alcohol kind of numbs your senses and you cant appreciate the music as much - you dont hear it how its meant to be heard.. Havent explained it very well so sorry if it doesnt make sense! There are other things you can mix with raving that work much better and make it an experience like nothing else. Aaaah so beautifulll!!!

Oh, I know what you mean, and I completely agree. It just seemed like a slightly out of place/random comment, I just wondered what had inspired it

[miki_da_magpie]

(Original post by mangomaz)
I agree with djdj, I personally find they're not a good mix. Alcohol kind of numbs your senses and you cant appreciate the music as much - you dont hear it how its meant to be heard.. Havent explained it very well so sorry if it doesnt make sense! There are other things you can mix with raving that work much better and make it an experience like nothing else. Aaaah so beautifulll!!!

You're not promoting the use of drugs are you that would be a biiiiigggg nono. . I feel that you do need a certain bit of alcohol to get you into the swing of things...completely sober ppl dont get there dance moves as smooth. I think alcohol with dancing mixes perfectly fine as long as you take it in moderation

[DJDJ]

i just get pissed (too pissed - i drink to excess) and wobble about, slur and get moody. i prefer pills, or maybe ket, although thats killed the scene a little bit.

[Phil_D]

Yeah, alcohol does numb your senses so you can't appreciate the music as much. But then again it kills your inhibitions which makes you enjoy the music anyway - usually by making you jump around little a complete idiot.

[vin]

Not posted in here in a while, but i havnt heard anything good worth mentioning really

[Higgy]

I havent to be honest, its that autumn lull of good dance records again

[tbm]

Just wondering if anyone knows what this dance song is? Ive posted on the "Whats This Song Thread" but had no response, I thought maybe someone on here might know.

I dont know the lyrics but I have seen the video, its of this boy at a swimming pool, the other kids are laughing at him, then he swims under the drain at the bottom of the pool through some pipes and ends up having dinner with some girl in a bikini in an underwater restaurant, any ideas? It sounds a little like 'Make Love' (Olver Cheetham??) in the background! Any suggestions welcome, thanks!

[futurist]

Could it be Route 33 with Alex James and Looking Back??

[beach surf babe]

I know the song you mean but can't for the life of me think of the title. Its been on the music channels a fair bit too...

[mangomaz]

(Original post by miki_da_magpie)
You're not promoting the use of drugs are you that would be a biiiiigggg nono. . I feel that you do need a certain bit of alcohol to get you into the swing of things...completely sober ppl dont get there dance moves as smooth. I think alcohol with dancing mixes perfectly fine as long as you take it in moderation

of course not! Hehe..
Hmm ok maybe a TINY bit of alcohol is acceptable.. no more than a couple of drinks though! But I dont know... since I started erm.. not drinking wen going out, my dancing has improved by miles and miles. So now even when I'm completely sober I can dance like I'm... not. It just lets you become so creative with how you move and removes inhibitions - you do it for the love of doing it and not because you think 'I dont care how I look any more'. So a bit of a subtle difference I suppose. Anyway this is a dangerous topic, I'm stopping!

[MAtt Shaw]

Mmm, just found this soc And damn me, but dance&trance probably accounts for about 90-95% of my music collection. I can't get enough of the stuff, people mention drugs and alcohol in relation to the whole scene, Trance is my drug It keeps me going for hours and hours on end when nothing else can keep me concentrated on things. I don't like to spoil it by drinking or taking anything (although I might have a drink or two to cut my normal awkwardness if I'm out).

Mostly I prefer the mid-late 90's scene, but I've spotted a few new names recently (over the last year or two) that sound good and I'm looking for more now ... I tend to listen to music from Mauro Picotto, ATB, Faithless, Tiesto, Robert Miles, Darude and other similar artists ... anyone got any suggestions of things to listen to/people to look for?

Oh, and if anyone's not heard of it http://www.di.fm/ is a great site for internet radio with a dozen or more different channels going these days, a semi-regular hangout of my media players when I'm on my laptop or PC.

[mangomaz]

Try psytrance. I cant do normal trance since I started listening to it! Well I can listen to it, but if I try and go out and dance to it, normal trance bores me to death.
Psytrance is amazing. Very dark, hard, twisted but yet at the same time it has a beauty to it with all the melodies that float and twist in and out of each other. And it doesnt have the tacky quality that trance can have. (well if you avoid certain psytrance artists anyway!)
Try 1200micrograms, eskimo, protoculture, hallucinogen to start you off if you like.

[DJDJ]

dont like psytrance, too boring; but then i dont like trance, so maybe thats why.

[Phil_D]

(Original post by mangomaz)
Try psytrance. I cant do normal trance since I started
listening to it! Well I can listen to it, but if I try and go out and dance to it, normal trance bores me to death.
Psytrance is amazing. Very dark, hard, twisted but yet at the same time it has a beauty to it with all the melodies that float and twist in and out of each other. And it doesnt have the tacky quality that trance can have. (well if you avoid certain psytrance artists anyway!)
Try 1200micrograms, eskimo, protoculture, hallucinogen to start you off if you like.

Tacky quality? I don't know what trance you're listen to. Tbh, most dance fans I speak to that don't like trance say that it's just too soft and/or bland for them. Trance as a genre these days is very subtle and there are less big riffs and more progressive and chillout elements. I like to listen to trance while working. It's not too distracting but creates a nice mood.

As for psy-trance. Yeah, I like it. Those basslines they use can be as groovy as *****. Do love my Infected Mushroom, I must say.

[djmm]

Yep; trance - like hardcore - has gone down the plug, IMO. That'd be why I still listen to the older tunes.

Matt, you've named some of the biggest mainstream DJ's around - if you're looking for track quality over set quality look to the likes of Ralph Fridge, Flutlicht, Chicane. If you want some good sets look to Van Buuren, Helsloot (forget if that's the correct spelling or not), BT.

[mangomaz]

(Original post by Phil_D)
Tacky quality? I don't know what trance you're listen to. Tbh, most dance fans I speak to that don't like trance say that it's just too soft and/or bland for them. Trance as a genre these days is very subtle and there are less big riffs and more progressive and chillout elements. I like to listen to trance while working. It's not too distracting but creates a nice mood.

As for psy-trance. Yeah, I like it. Those basslines they use can be as groovy as *****. Do love my Infected Mushroom, I must say.

I dont know, any time that I go out to trance clubs it just sounds so cheesey and tacky, especially all that euphoric stuff they play! I'm too used to my dark psytrance I guess lol.
I've never understood the big deal about infected mushroom they have a few good tracks but so much of their stuff that I hear is so europoppy I'm like what is this?! But thats just me

djdj - psytrance is boring?? Noooo!!!! Lol no fair enough you're entitled to your opinion. But I dont think psytrance is comparable to trance much at all. I cant handle trance (the tacky euphoric factor along with the usual its kinda bland reasons ) but psytrance there is so much going on; you can dance to the same track like you're speeded up to the eyeballs or like you're floating on a cloud of mandy. What with all the layers and stuff. Oh I sound so silly trying to explain why I love it so much lol.

[Phil_D]

(Original post by djmarkmclachlan)
Yep; trance - like hardcore - has gone down the plug, IMO. That'd be why I still listen to the older tunes.

I wouldn't say it's gone down the plug. It has changed an awful lot and you either like the changes or you don't. I personally think that the stuff that's been coming out on Anjunabeats over the last 2 or 3 years is incredible. And recent tracks like Arksun - Arisen and Orjan - Artic Globe are really doing it for me. Artic Globe is unbelieveable i reckon. But i would definately agree that the way in which trance has changed makes it not as good as a type of music to go out clubbing too. When you are working away in your room or chilling out a modern episode of A State Of Trance is perfect. (And believe me, it doesn't sound cheesey in the slightest.) Yet the same trance goes down less well in the main room of a packed club than the classic stuff that was being released between 1998-2001. But as Mark says, you can always just listen to the old tunes.

(Original post by mangomaz)
I've never understood the big deal about infected mushroom they have a few good tracks but so much of their stuff that I hear is so europoppy I'm like what is this?! But thats just me

No, it's quality ****. Disco Mushroom, I'M The Supervisor, Cities Of The Future, Frog Machine, Ratio Shmatio, Sailing On The Sea Of The Mushroom, B.P. Empire. So many good tracks. And so creative musically. And they were amazing live when i saw them.

[DJDJ]

i dont think psy trance is dark, this is dark http://hardcorewillneverdie2.com/arc...ew3/b2b1a1.ram

[miki_da_magpie]

Herm...some of the less "deep" DJ's, a bit more mainstream techno/trance are: Cascade, Tiesto, Robert Miles, Fedde Le Grand, 4 Clubbers, 4 Strings, van Buren, Jurgen de Vries, Timo Maas, Paul van Dijk, Scooter, Underworld Project, 4 Clubbers, 4 Strings, The Prodigy, Andora, Delerium, Paffendor, Dave McCullen, Voodoo & Serano, Angel City, Gigi D' Agostino, Klu Kulture, DHT, Barthezz, Dee Dee, Ultrabeat, Brainbug, Darude, Ian van Dahl, ATB. SUm good new DJ's i like. Nightcore, DJ Pulse, Basshunter (not the Boten Anna song), Inphinity, ahhhh there's so many... I'll stop before I offend anyone with too many commercial DJ's.

[Phil_D]

(Original post by miki_da_magpie)
Herm...some of the less "deep" DJ's, a bit more mainstream techno/trance are: Cascade, Tiesto, Robert Miles, Fedde Le Grand, 4 Clubbers, 4 Strings, van Buren, Jurgen de Vries, Timo Maas, Paul van Dijk, Scooter, Underworld Project, 4 Clubbers, 4 Strings, The Prodigy, Andora, Delerium, Paffendor, Dave McCullen, Voodoo & Serano, Angel City, Gigi D' Agostino, Klu Kulture, DHT, Barthezz, Dee Dee, Ultrabeat, Brainbug, Darude, Ian van Dahl, ATB. SUm good new DJ's i like. Nightcore, DJ Pulse, Basshunter (not the Boten Anna song), Inphinity, ahhhh there's so many... I'll stop before I offend anyone with too many commercial DJ's.

You've got quite a variety of acts there. Acts that I wouldn't necessarily put together under the same group.

My list of favs would probably be >

Above & Beyond, Armin Van Buuren, Ferry Corsten, Paul Van Dyk, Marco V, Andy Moor, Alex M.O.R.P.H., Alphazone, Guyver, Lee Haslam, Gaz West (Dark By Design), Phil York, Jason Cortez, Technikal, Carl Nicholson, MDA & Spherical, Chris Hoff, Colin Barratt, Breeze & Styles, Dougal & Gammer, Sy & Unknown, Hixxy, Scooter, Bomfunk MC's, Zombie Nation, Pendulum, The Prodigy, Infected Mushroom, Faithless, Daft Punk, Röyksopp.

Quite a variety there also. Ranging from trance to funky electro to cheesey hardcore to chillout and melodic hard dance.