Rep and the MUN

Agent Smith

The point has been raised: should people be repped for faithfully reproducing the opinions of the coutry they represent, when they may not share these opinions themselves?

Let the people decide...

yes, of course they should, you should be able to rep for whatever you want. If someone represents their country well, I should be able to pos rep them, and if they do it badly, equally the opposite.

It's in the TSR rules and frankly I'll rep for whatever I want.

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Socrates

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Carl

yes, of course they should, you should be able to rep for whatever you want. If someone represents their country well, I should be able to pos rep them, and if they do it badly, equally the opposite.

It's in the TSR rules and frankly I'll rep for whatever I want.

Thats fine, and I agree with that.

But - should I be neg repped because I'm representing Iran and the president of Iran makes some unsavoury remarks?

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jasperstory

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Carl: I think that AgentSmith made it clear when he meant repping someone "for faithfully reproducing" the opinions of their country.

I don't think that rep should be used in the forum if one is adhering to the views of their nation. Even if one isn't, I think people should generally be more lenient because the MUN appears to need all the help it can and people might not like the idea of spending time debating in character just to get repped for the views of their nation. Also, clearly we are talking about neg-repping here - I haven't seen people positive-rep people here because they think a representative did their job well. Beyond that, it would be very difficult if people repped based on what they think was useful and good themselves (or in character), because there would be rep flying all over the place and rep-blocks might form (i.e. Venezuala, Iran, Zim vs. American allies ).

I dont think anyone is saying whether or not you should be allowed to rep, purely whether we think people ought to rep.

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Socrates

Thats fine, and I agree with that.

But - should I be neg repped because I'm representing Iran and the president of Iran makes some unsavoury remarks?

not if as the rep you're making unsavoury remarks too!

there are two aspects to this:

1) this is the UN and so language must be diplomatic. You wouldn't be able to make remarks in the same manner that Ahmedinejad does for example
2) comments you might get negged for in D&D (eg Socialism is the way forward) should not be negged here if they are the opinion of the country you represented.

All that is needed here is some common sense, not an outright ban.

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Bismarck

Socrates

Thats fine, and I agree with that.

But - should I be neg repped because I'm representing Iran and the president of Iran makes some unsavoury remarks?

Don't forget that you're supposed to be a diplomat. While the President of Iran might say some really stupid things, the Iranian ambassador to the UN will never make such statements.

beat you to it Biz!

You should have the ability to rep for whatever reason you want, and if you are going to be irresponsible in the UN with your remarks then you should expect a negative response from your colleagues.

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Bismarck

Carl

beat you to it Biz!

Damn you. *neg reps* :wink:

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Socrates

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Carl

not if as the rep you're making unsavoury remarks too!

there are two aspects to this:

1) this is the UN and so language must be diplomatic. You wouldn't be able to make remarks in the same manner that Ahmedinejad does for example
2) comments you might get negged for in D&D (eg Socialism is the way forward) should not be negged here if they are the opinion of the country you represented.

All that is needed here is some common sense, not an outright ban.

I agree.

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Person

Carl

yes, of course they should, you should be able to rep for whatever you want. If someone represents their country well, I should be able to pos rep them, and if they do it badly, equally the opposite.

It's in the TSR rules and frankly I'll rep for whatever I want.

But people won't do that :rolleyes:

People will, and have repped because they disagree with the views of the COUNTRY. An individual's reputation shouldn't suffer because of the view of another entity.

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Agent Smith

OP

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But how can such common sense be enforced? If you complain to the mods that you got an anonymous neg rep that you THINK might have come from a MUN opponent, they'll just get annoyed at having their time wasted.

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Agent Smith

But how can such common sense be enforced? If you complain to the mods that you got an anonymous neg rep that you THINK might have come from a MUN opponent, they'll just get annoyed at having their time wasted.

I could rep for anything...it might not be fair or make any sense but I'm entitled to do so according to the TSR rules.

Here's a strategy: if I receive a neg rep that I feel is unfair I post it publicly using a screenshot rather than neg rep back. Nine times out of ten someone else neg reps them back for me.

Generally on this forum I find common sense prevails.

PS cheers for the (pos) rep Brimstone :biggrin:

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brimstone

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Carl

PS cheers for the (pos) rep Brimstone :biggrin:

No probz

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Person

Generally on this forum I find common sense prevails.

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Teehar

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no point in saying don't rep for MUN, cos unless this is the only place you post, people will just go elsewhere and rep you for other posts, just cos they couldn't rep you for MUN. you're gonna get repped for MUN.
do you have a right to be pissed off if you get 5 neg reps for MUN, from the same clique, having only posted a few times in MUN (MOI)? yes, but is anyone gonna be able to do anything about it? no
we've just got to accept that the system is flawed and cannot be changed for the better, instead we should move on.

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