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  1. taken4granted's Avatar
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    Medical Schools/foundation courses that accept AAB
    hey guys

    i just wanted to make a list of all the unis that i could apply to with AAB grades at A-level. i was thinking of re-sitting but have been advised againts it. so with that in mind... which unis do i have a chance of being accepted into with the grades i have ?? Im also willing to apply for foundation courses so if anyone can advise me on any, that would really help thanks in advance.
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    Re: Medical Schools/foundation courses that accept AAB
    (Original post by taken4granted)
    hey guys

    i just wanted to make a list of all the unis that i could apply to with AAB grades at A-level. i was thinking of re-sitting but have been advised againts it. so with that in mind... which unis do i have a chance of being accepted into with the grades i have ?? Im also willing to apply for foundation courses so if anyone can advise me on any, that would really help thanks in advance.
    All universities have a minimum of AAA now for the A100 course. Look here for more information about Foundation & Widening Access to Medicine Programs. Note that you may be overqualified and thus ineligible for most courses.
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    Re: Medical Schools/foundation courses that accept AAB
    (Original post by Vulpes)
    All universities have a minimum of AAA now for the A100 course. Look here for more information about Foundation & Widening Access to Medicine Programs. Note that you may be overqualified and thus ineligible for most courses.
    what would you recommend i do other than GEM, since i really dnt fancy doing a biomedical degree
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    Re: Medical Schools/foundation courses that accept AAB
    (Original post by taken4granted)
    what would you recommend i do other than GEM, since i really dnt fancy doing a biomedical degree
    For GEM, you don't necessarily have to do a biomedical degree. I / and any other TSR member can't help you decide what you want to do.

    You wouldn't happen to have any extenuating circumstances would you?
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    Re: University of Nottingham Medicine with a Foundation Year A108
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    where can we get more information about this course? entry requirements CCC guessing there will be a lot of competition then
    Yeah there are very very few places for this ranging from 10 to about 30.
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    Re: Foundation Medicine or GEM?
    (Original post by Willois)
    Hey guys,

    I got my results yesterday and they satisfied my offers from UCL and St. Andrews. The offer from St. Andrews was for Foundation Medicine while the one from UCL was for Biomed. I'm really confused which one to choose from those two. I'm dying to read Medicine but apparently, I was not good enough to get a place this year. I want to go to UCL and then apply for GEM later as a graduate, but some ppl say that I should go with St. Andrews with lower risk. I really need some advices. If anyone could help, that would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks.
    Go with St Andrews it is a very good university. Say you do Biomed at UCL and then can't get into medicine via grad entry you will be kicking yourself.
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    Re: Medical School Foundation & Widening Access Courses Questions & Advice Megathread
    Quick question about the emdp course, on the site it doesn't state any specific gcse requirments but on the student room section of kings emdp it says 5 gcse grade b required including maths,english, and double science. I called up kings around 5 weeks ago and i asked about the maths and english requirments and i was told it was a grade C for both?? Does anyone have any info
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    Medipathways And Other Medical Foundation Years
    I just got an email through UCAS about clearing about a thing called 'Medipathways'.

    It basically is a foundation year for medicine: you go there, and apply again through UCAS for other medical schools.

    I got AABB for my A level results, with the two Bs in biology and chemistry
    I did some research and found out that many candidates that apply for this kind of foundation year usually apply with B~C grades.

    I was wondering if this foundation year would be any good, and if I still have a chance of getting into London unis for medicine the following year with my grades.
    Medipathways also said that they allow you to retake some modules for A levels to up your grades, but most London unis won't accept this so I'm not really sure if its worth it.

    Another option for me is to apply for biomed and either go for graduate entry (which I heard is very hard), or apply to unis such as Queen Mary's or St. George's which allows a transfer to medicine in very rare occasions.

    Any advice on what I should do?
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    Re: Medipathways And Other Medical Foundation Years
    I just got the same thing but ive never heard of it before?! Help anyone please?!
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    Re: Medical School Foundation & Widening Access Courses Questions & Advice Megathread
    (Original post by SuperSon1c)
    Hey guys,

    I received my disappointing AS-level results: B-Chemistry( 4 marks of an A) B-Biology (3-marks of an A) C-Maths C-Physics. These are not ideal results but I hope i can get predicted AAA as maths is/was my strongest subject and i don't know why i got a C.

    If i get predicted AAA can i still apply to the 6 year courses offered by Kings,Southampton,UEA,Nottingham ?

    I do have extenuationg circumstances:
    -I'm a young carer who looks after my mother( who suffers from bone conditions) and my 3 younger siblings without my dad living with us.
    -None of my parents have been uni
    -Live in a deprived area
    -Receive EMA

    I achieved 5 A*,6As,1B,1C from a school that got 42% A*-C in my year in top 10 worst boroughs in UK for education.
    Got good work experience.
    I know im being ambitious, but I really want to apply to Oxford if i get predicted AAA. Apparently they don't really look at AS scores so is it worth me applying?

    Thanks

    Hey I'm reapplying after missing out slightly this year but went through the process this year and should say that yes you can apply to foundation courses but with an AAA prediction you're probably better to apply for 5 year ones
    and regarding oxford, they're not too big on retakes and their typical offer is A*AA now for all courses X
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    Re: Widening access courses for medicine
    (Original post by Kaiser01)
    Hi, recently I got BBB in my A levels which were Chemistry, Biology and Maths, I applied to medicine this year for the 5 year courses but did not get any offers, I was hoping to get AAA take a gap year then re-apply but I believe this is no longer an option so I'm wondering If i would be able to apply to the 6 year widening access courses for 2012 entry.
    I meet the eligibility criteria for Southampton, East anglia and Nottingham but I'm not sure whether I should apply since I have science A-levels, I'd also like to resit a few exams this year since I was very close to A's only a few UMS off in my subjects, would I stand a reasonable chance assuming my PS and UKCAT are good?
    I am extremely motivated to do medicine and I will not quit until I've exhausted all my options.
    Hi! Soton, UEA and Nottingham all require science subjects for their foundation year programmes anyway, and the average grade requirement is BCC so you won't need to resit anything to be honest. I know southampton only like retakes in one subject in an additional year so you'd probably hinder your application if you retook all 3, and A100 courses don't like retakes either x
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    Unsuitable Access course?
    Hi all

    I have just completed a QAA-approved Access to Health Sciences course at Middlesbrough College. I was originally interested in either medicine or dentistry, and having completed some shadowing/work experience, I think that medicine would be a better fit for me.

    The issue that is worrying me is that while the Access course that I completed was (as far as I can tell) virtually identical to the Access to Medicine/Dentistry courses in terms of content, I am worried that universities may deem it "not good enough"?

    Being a 32 year old mature student and self-employed it was simply not feasible for me to move to one of the 3 or 4 locations in the UK where these courses are run...I managed to not only achieve the overall Distinctions required by the universities but managed to attain the highest overall marks of the year's Access intake, both exam and coursework. This was formally recognised by the academic staff and is included in my reference.

    From what I understand, the universities can look at each applicant individually and was wondering if anybody here has experience of getting into medicine via the Access route, but NOT a specific Access to Medicine/Dentistry course? My main choice to apply to would be Durham as I would like to stay in my local area and (hopefully!) eventually practise here. I also know that they offer a Foundation programme....If the Access course is deemed "not good enough" or some such, would applying via the Foundation route perhaps be more feasible?

    Again, I am just after some feedback so be gentle lol
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    Re: Unsuitable Access course?
    (Original post by tom31)
    Hi all

    I have just completed a QAA-approved Access to Health Sciences course at Middlesbrough College. I was originally interested in either medicine or dentistry, and having completed some shadowing/work experience, I think that medicine would be a better fit for me.

    The issue that is worrying me is that while the Access course that I completed was (as far as I can tell) virtually identical to the Access to Medicine/Dentistry courses in terms of content, I am worried that universities may deem it "not good enough"?

    Being a 32 year old mature student and self-employed it was simply not feasible for me to move to one of the 3 or 4 locations in the UK where these courses are run...I managed to not only achieve the overall Distinctions required by the universities but managed to attain the highest overall marks of the year's Access intake, both exam and coursework. This was formally recognised by the academic staff and is included in my reference.

    From what I understand, the universities can look at each applicant individually and was wondering if anybody here has experience of getting into medicine via the Access route, but NOT a specific Access to Medicine/Dentistry course? My main choice to apply to would be Durham as I would like to stay in my local area and (hopefully!) eventually practise here. I also know that they offer a Foundation programme....If the Access course is deemed "not good enough" or some such, would applying via the Foundation route perhaps be more feasible?

    Again, I am just after some feedback so be gentle lol
    Since this is such a specific concern I think it would be best to contact a sample of medical schools directly to find out if your course is acceptable or not.
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    Re: Medical School Foundation & Widening Access Courses Questions & Advice Megathread
    Just wanted to say that widening access courses are fantastic. I am biased of course, but i'm a doctor because of one of these courses.

    Understandably (but frustratingly), people see these as a backup in case they don't get into the traditional 5 year courses. That isn't their aim and I would caution those who think it will be an easy ride. My first year (in essence a foundation year) was harder than the first year of the standard medical degree. Those that didn't get that and tried to coast (including someone with AAA) didn't make it through the first year and were asked to leave.

    If you meet the criteria then definitely apply for these courses as they provide an amazing opportunity to go after your dreams.
  15. Eight's Avatar
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    Foundation and access courses
    If a university accepts Access courses for Medicine does this mean they will also accept foundation years in Medicine?
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    Re: Foundation and access courses
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    If a university accepts Access courses for Medicine does this mean they will also accept foundation years in Medicine?
    Not necessarily. See the links below for more information:

    Medical School Foundation and Widening Access to Medicine Programs
    Access to Medicine
  17. Eight's Avatar
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    Re: Foundation and access courses
    (Original post by Vulpes)
    Not necessarily. See the links below for more information:

    Medical School Foundation and Widening Access to Medicine Programs
    Access to Medicine
    I'm a bit confused now about what is considered an Access course and what is considered a Foundation year. The course title I will be doing next year is 'Foundation in Clinical Sciences/Medicine' and I assumed this meant it was a Foundation year for Medicine. However on the link you provide it is listed under the Access courses. :confused:
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    Re: Foundation and access courses
    (Original post by Eight)
    I'm a bit confused now about what is considered an Access course and what is considered a Foundation year. The course title I will be doing next year is 'Foundation in Clinical Sciences/Medicine' and I assumed this meant it was a Foundation year for Medicine. However on the link you provide it is listed under the Access courses. :confused:
    Access courses are offered by different colleges around the UK. These can then be substituted as A Level requirements at certain universities. Foundation programmes are offered by the university for applicants who don't have the necessary science A Levels.
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    Re: Medical School Foundation & Widening Access Courses Questions & Advice Megathread
    Is it realistic for me to get in to medicine?
    GCSE's:
    4 A* - English Lit, English Lang, Biology, Core Science
    7 A - Chemistry, Physics, Additional Science, Maths, Statistics, Citizenship, Psychology
    3 B - R.E, Drama, French

    AS Grades:
    2 B - Chemistry, Maths
    1 C - Biology
    1 D - Physics

    Work Experience:
    Shadowing a general surgeon - surgery, outpatient
    Volunteering - library, school reception
    Tutoring - key stage 2 children

    Lots of other extracurricular things, drama, outward bound (similar to duke of edinburgh) etc.

    Lots of medicine summer schools: Cambridge, Kings, UCL, Nottingham
    My AS grades were low as I missed a month and a half of college due to having an appendectomy.

    I will be applying to:

    Kings - extended medical degree programme (50 places)
    Southamption - medicine BM6 foundation year (30 places)
    Nottingham - medicine with foundation year A108 (10 places)

    I will be sitting my UKCAT later this week.

    Does anyone have any advice considering applying to these courses. What are the chances of me getting in?
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    Re: Medical School Foundation & Widening Access Courses Questions & Advice Megathread
    im sorry im new to this, dont know how to post a question of my own
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