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Migrants rob young britons of jobs

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Original post by cactussed
Then it's the bosses who are handing out these jobs on a plate, it's not the employees themselves who are demanding to be handed the job.


I'm aware of that. I'm angry at the bosses for it tbh. I can't really blame the workers for taking the opportunity of leaving the warehouse for the office.
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Original post by Kickflip
Migrants rob young britons of jobs


Mabye this is because immigrants are actually much harder working than the "Britons" on JSA for 30 years.
Original post by mikeyd85
I'm aware of that. I'm angry at the bosses for it tbh. I can't really blame the workers for taking the opportunity of leaving the warehouse for the office.


Have you spoken to them to try and work out why they took on people who can't speak good English and don't have office experience? (the last point is sort of irrelevant, everyone has to start somewhere although if everyone has no experience then I see how it could be a problem)
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I love how because it is migrants that have won the job over Brits they are 'stealing' the jobs from them yet if it was a British person who had gotten the job over another British person there wouldn't even be an article about it.
Reply 24
Original post by Martyn*
I think that there is some truth to this. When I was living in Liverpool I was working as a barman. All of a sudden the managers decided to get rid of some staff and three months later they employed several Polish girls, one Polish lad and an Iraqi lad (the Iraqi lad got the kitchen porter job). Then when I left that place, I took a part time job in a restaurant as a kitchen porter, there were three Polish guys and 2 Polish girls. The chef said I was lucky I got employed because he'd rather take on Polish people because they don't answer back. Now I worked hard at that job. But I hated the chef and I answered back when I thought he was picking on the kitchen porters for no reason. The kitchen porters just took it and did what they were told. He even had them working overtime without pay. He asked me to and I said I wouldn't, not without getting payed for it. I ended up in a big row with him and complained at the job centre about him. I was disgusted that they just let this chef speak to them like ****.

Then I took a job at a Pizza parlour making pizzas. All the workers were Polish but the man who ran the place was English. I never got the job after the work trial, but I soon found out they employed an African guy.


You've got it entirely, it's pure exploitation. Nobody interested in the rights of workers should support this.

You've hit the nail on the head, foreign people are exploited and British people are left by the wayside, who wins? Capitalists.

Fact is, most 'socialists' on TSR never worked a day in their lives, never swung a pick or shovel, never had grime in their hands that wouldn't wash out, probably never had a job which made them break a sweat. That's why their political views are so ****ing irrelevant to real people. They're an embarrassment to the left.
Original post by cactussed
Have you spoken to them to try and work out why they took on people who can't speak good English and don't have office experience? (the last point is sort of irrelevant, everyone has to start somewhere although if everyone has no experience then I see how it could be a problem)


No, not really. It's a part of office politics that I really don't want to get involved in. It's caused enough trouble already tbh.
Original post by mikeyd85
A lot of the people getting the office jobs in my work are Polish immigrants who started in the warehouse. They've got no office experience and can't speak great English. These jobs are just handed to them on a ****ing plate. ITT it's completely *******s.


Probably because they are still better candidates than many of the other people applying. My mum has a job in the office of a warehouse where a lot of Polish people work and from her experience of recruitment, a lot of the 'young britons' that apply can't even write in English. Also, the fact they speak a different language can be an advantage in office if the particular company has warehouses there.
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Original post by Harrifer
You've got it entirely, it's pure exploitation. Nobody interested in the rights of workers should support this.

You've hit the nail on the head, foreign people are exploited and British people are left by the wayside, who wins? Capitalists.

Fact is, most 'socialists' on TSR never worked a day in their lives, never swung a pick or shovel, never had grime in their hands that wouldn't wash out, probably never had a job which made them break a sweat. That's why their political views are so ****ing irrelevant to real people. They're an embarrassment to the left.


I've had some really ****ty jobs. Even foreigners didn't last long. When I was cleaning toilets in a DIY store in Liverpool, the cleaning company gave me an opportunity to work in the offices cleaning-up after everyone left the office. It was more money for me because it was £6 per hour and I was in debt. They were going to give it me, untill some Polish girl decided that she wanted the office job to coincide with her morning job. I wasn't happy so I kicked up a fuss about it. They didn't like it so they sacked me by telling me that I had hygiene issues.
Original post by Millyshyn
Probably because they are still better candidates than many of the other people applying. My mum has a job in the office of a warehouse where a lot of Polish people work and from her experience of recruitment, a lot of the 'young britons' that apply can't even write in English. Also, the fact they speak a different language can be an advantage in office if the particular company has warehouses there.


There are no other applicants - they are literally just picking them out the warehouse and telling them to go work in the office.

We have no international warehouses. We do have an export dept where we have some foreigners, but none of them are Polish.
The number of jobs isn't fixed. There's no difference in this regard between migrants and white babies, and the British population is growing more slowly than in the past.
I have a solution, why not make all British born people aged 16-24 ineligible for any form of benefits, and increase benefit allowances for migrants.

This would bid up the wages at which migrants were willing to work and push down the wages which young British workers would accept, and so British workers would become more competitive and we would end up with more British young people in jobs.

Social problem solved.
Original post by Kickflip
I view it from the opposite perspective. I could not give a flying toss if immigrants are poor in their own countries or not.


No but they do care and they go out and do something about it.
The Schengen Agreement can work both ways you know.
Original post by Kickflip
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265665/Migrants-rob-young-Britons-of-jobs

And who do those under 24s vote for when they get the chance? They have had an education which enables them to spot sexism, racism, inequality, and non-diversity from a thousand miles. After a few years on the dole, the reality of what a multi ethnic Britain and one nation Europe really means for them might just start to hit home.


Original post by MagicNMedicine

Original post by MagicNMedicine
I have a solution, why not make all British born people aged 16-24 ineligible for any form of benefits, and increase benefit allowances for migrants.

This would bid up the wages at which migrants were willing to work and push down the wages which young British workers would accept, and so British workers would become more competitive and we would end up with more British young people in jobs.

Social problem solved.


Immigrants tend to come from countries where benefits are non-existent so even if you did provide them with generous benefits their culture is to work so they'd continue working. Also I've seen stats which show immigrants earn on average more than their British counterparts (for example if you compared a Polish builder to an English one) so it's not necessarily a wage issue. British people who are unemployed are usually unskilled, this is the problem.
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Original post by Kickflip
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265665/Migrants-rob-young-Britons-of-jobs

And who do those under 24s vote for when they get the chance? They have had an education which enables them to spot sexism, racism, inequality, and non-diversity from a thousand miles. After a few years on the dole, the reality of what a multi ethnic Britain and one nation Europe really means for them might just start to hit home.


One more thing, do you have any foreign friends, you bitch? Let them know in their faces how you feel about people of their sort stealing jobs! Stupid ho.
It is so interesting how the member Kickflip is supporting his opinion.

Apart from the display of an amazing article from a tabloid, which I think we all believe, has been written after thorough research and presentation of all possible perspectives of this ''issue'', he/she also seems to haven given any consideration to what its taking place in his/her country.

I am sure,Sheffield it has been heavily stricken by unemployment.But a majority of its inhabitants spends so much time in front of the TV who they are now obsessed with materials.

So the salary its not enough cause quite a few have the new-iphone and the ipad and some pretty watches , etc etc etc . Parallel with that we see foreigners with their raw and obsolete religions coming in hordes and taking jobs that no Briton will ever take cause; it demands too much labour, it is not a fancy one or it is not worth taking it cause the salary is same as the benefits.

So we now see them working hard and we do not think about this dammed thing called globalisation which allows industries to outsource their manufacturing parts wherever they can pay the least.

So IT MUST BE THE IMMIGRANTS THAT WE ARE UNEMPLOYED.....
Accidentally gave you +rep. Just in case you think anyone actually agrees with you.
A lot of immigrants do jobs that British people don't want to do e.g. nursing. There has been a severe lack of British nurses, such that hospitals were offering members of the public "£1000" if they could refer a nurse to work for the hospital. When this failed, NHS managers recruited in the Phillipines for nurses. This is why so many nurses are non British.
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"The English are lazy, they don't deserve the jobs". Do you ever consider if those employers of 'hardworking' Poles are pro EU leftists or not?

Original post by Linweth
I love how because it is migrants that have won the job over Brits they are 'stealing' the jobs from them yet if it was a British person who had gotten the job over another British person there wouldn't even be an article about it.


That's right, it's called patriotism. You might want to look it up in the dictionary, unless you are foreign, in which case you are being patriotic.
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Reply 39
A high population can only become a problem for an economy when there isn't space to accommodate the population, not because an economy has a finite number of jobs. The presence of more people means the creation of more jobs to provide for that higher number of people. Why else can the American economy support 6 times more people than the UK?
(edited 12 years ago)

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