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Migrants rob young britons of jobs

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Original post by Agent Z
That's one example and you're using that to apply to every unemployed British person. The reason you have a job is because that guy, and others like him didn't have a job.

you better hope people like that keep refusing to take min wage jobs that don't pay the minimum income to achieve an acceptable standard of living http://www.minimumincome.org.uk/ so you can keep your cushy overpaid public sector job!


I never applied it to all British people, just those who blame their unemployment on immigrants.

Also, I don't work there any more, haven't for over 8 months. My cushy overpaid job was fixed term regardless of the unemployment figures. It certainly wasn't well paid either, believe me!

If you're going to disagree with my post, at least have all the facts
I believe in free markets, and that includes the free movement of labour forces.

If our young people are so woefully unqualified that they're losing out to others, that's their own fault, frankly.
Reply 62
Damn immigrants coming here and scrounging benefits :angry:

Oh sorry, I see we're talking about the complete opposite of that today. Make your bloody mind up.
Original post by mikeyd85
A lot of the people getting the office jobs in my work are Polish immigrants who started in the warehouse. They've got no office experience and can't speak great English. These jobs are just handed to them on a ****ing plate. ITT it's completely *******s.


i know right - its the same in a lot of warehouses


And second generation immigrants also suffer from this OP, but you probably dont copunt them as britons - its to do with the fact bosses can treat them worse and they complain less
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Reply 64
Sadly, I have to agree, Many immigrant workers only get their jobs due to the wage they are willing to work for and the hours they are willing to do. Its not a case about Britions not applying for certain jobs (Although in some cases this may be true, but very rare), It's about what we expect to get compared to those of less socially and economically developed countries.
Reply 65
Original post by Xyls
Sadly, I have to agree, Many immigrant workers only get their jobs due to the wage they are willing to work for and the hours they are willing to do. Its not a case about Britions not applying for certain jobs (Although in some cases this may be true, but very rare), It's about what we expect to get compared to those of less socially and economically developed countries.


So it is down to choices. If immigrants are willing to do a poorly paid job with long hours, they would but a British person don't have to because they are "too good" even though they have no qualifications or experience.

Its not a good attitude is it especially now when even crap jobs are rare. Also, don't forget no one has to do a crap job for ever, if you do your crap job well, you will get promoted or move to a better job because you have job experience. But if you never start even start a cap job, you have no hope of getting a better job.
Like I always say in these threads immigrants cant win here. They are either coming over and just taking benefits or they are stealing all the jobs.
Reply 67
Original post by ish90an
Because socialism has worked so well in the 745251 attempts it has had in every other country. I bet you miss the good old days when everyone worked on a potato farm and sang Aegukga.


I long for the days when the unemployed vastly outnumber the quantity of available jobs. Thank god we're not like the eastern block which was able to run full employment policies.

I long to have my ethnic and cultural identity subverted by vast hordes of third world colonists trying to spread their race and culture over the homeland of my nation.

I long to walk past the home of millionaires whilst trying to survive on £55 a week, unable to aspire to buy a home because of the obscenely rich speculating on prices whilst immigrants cause excessive demand problems.

You are deeply ignorant of the pain liberal capitalism causes people. One of this nations biggest tratiors and lib-cap archtypes, Winston Churchill caused untold suffering in the 1920s by causing a decade of deflation in order to bring a pound-gold parity back to its pre-ww1 levels.

You have no idea of what inflation will do to this country and its politics. Just as the German experience of hyperinflation alerted the nation to the enemy within their midst, so will the coming British inflation. We have devalued by 25% already to the rest of the world with an economy that imports nearly all its staples - the wave of inflation is coming and at the end of this period of turmoil the working class concious of England will be awoken to march against her enemies under the banner of national socialism.
Original post by Left Hand Drive

Original post by Left Hand Drive
Like I always say in these threads immigrants cant win here. They are either coming over and just taking benefits or they are stealing all the jobs.


Or what about 'they don't in-i-grayt and cut themselves off' vs. 'they're takn all r wimmin' and 'they're taaaakn ovar r community'. So basically they cut themselves off whilst simultaneously having a strong effect on your day to day life.
Reply 69
Original post by Psyk
Damn immigrants coming here and scrounging benefits :angry:

Oh sorry, I see we're talking about the complete opposite of that today. Make your bloody mind up.


True, perhaps we should just stop at Damn immigrants. We do not have the excessive industrial capacity to give them jobs due to offshoring, so they either go on benefits themselves or displace British people onto benefits. It should be a resistance to immigration and immigrants as they are, not on the grounds of "benefits" or "jobs" are the two are interwining issues.
Reply 70
Original post by Kickflip
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265665/Migrants-rob-young-Britons-of-jobs

And who do those under 24s vote for when they get the chance? They have had an education which enables them to spot sexism, racism, inequality, and non-diversity from a thousand miles. After a few years on the dole, the reality of what a multi ethnic Britain and one nation Europe really means for them might just start to hit home.


I didn't actually rob some Western men and Western women of their jobs - I just outcompeted them. They didn't actually have the jobs beforehand.

Also, I thought that those young Britons you talk of have access to 27 different nations' employment markets within the EU. There's a whole continent out there for the taking :smile:
Original post by Kickflip
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/265665/Migrants-rob-young-Britons-of-jobs

And who do those under 24s vote for when they get the chance? They have had an education which enables them to spot sexism, racism, inequality, and non-diversity from a thousand miles. After a few years on the dole, the reality of what a multi ethnic Britain and one nation Europe really means for them might just start to hit home.


Dey tuk er jubbzz!

Seriously just shut up. If feckless brits want to sit on their buttocks and fist themselves all day then good. Leave the jobs to the people who actually want to work and not some morons who will complain that it isn't good enough for their ridiculously high standards.
Reply 72
Original post by effofex
I didn't actually rob some Western men and Western women of their jobs - I just outcompeted them. They didn't actually have the jobs beforehand.

Also, I thought that those young Britons you talk of have access to 27 different nations' employment markets within the EU. There's a whole continent out there for the taking :smile:


We'd rather not take other peoples jobs and would be much happier if people like you disappeared. There is no good reason an ethnic British person should be unemployed so a foreigner like you can take a role in our economy that they may of otherwise had. It's time Britain stood for the British.
Reply 73
Original post by Silver Arrow
Dey tuk er jubbzz!

Seriously just shut up. If feckless brits want to sit on their buttocks and fist themselves all day then good. Leave the jobs to the people who actually want to work and not some morons who will complain that it isn't good enough for their ridiculously high standards.


Feckless Brits?

If I implied people of another ethnicity were feckless I'm sure some people would have a few things to say about that. But it's perfectly okay because it's racism against the British on a British forum about British social issues.
Reply 74
Original post by Maker
So it is down to choices. If immigrants are willing to do a poorly paid job with long hours, they would but a British person don't have to because they are "too good" even though they have no qualifications or experience.

Its not a good attitude is it especially now when even crap jobs are rare. Also, don't forget no one has to do a crap job for ever, if you do your crap job well, you will get promoted or move to a better job because you have job experience. But if you never start even start a cap job, you have no hope of getting a better job.


Excuse me? You are being extremely stereotypical in suggesting that we don't have the same qualifications. Firstly, in our socially advanced country we have a thing called minimum wage, which is often looked over by immigrant workers and employers desperate for work. If you think someone expecting to work for the minimum, law inclined, wage just because they are British is them acting as if they are too good then that is just silly and naive. There are also laws on how many hours people can work, which again are often looked over by immigrant workers.

You socialise a country into believing these are the norms of society and enforce that by law, yet a force of aliens will work for less and for longer. Employers aren't stupid and know the better deal.
Original post by CombineHarvester
Or what about 'they don't in-i-grayt and cut themselves off' vs. 'they're takn all r wimmin' and 'they're taaaakn ovar r community'. So basically they cut themselves off whilst simultaneously having a strong effect on your day to day life.


Its an invasion. They all got together one day and thought White Britain is going down! They already have Iraqi law in London! and its a well known facts immigrants make up 80% of the UK these days.
Reply 76
Original post by RyanT
We'd rather not take other peoples jobs and would be much happier if people like you disappeared. There is no good reason an ethnic British person should be unemployed so a foreigner like you can take a role in our economy that they may of otherwise had. It's time Britain stood for the British.


"We"? Who the f are you? And who the f gives you the right to speak on behalf of 60 million people? Please, shut your ass up before somebody else does in real life.
Reply 77
Original post by gateshipone
Real conversation with a British person I was signing while working in a Jobcentre:

British person: "Bloody immigrants, they're taking all the jobs and I've got no chance. I'll do anything mate, I just wanna job. You got anything there?"

I do a job search.

Me: "Here's one. It's a cleaner, full time, pays over minimum wage"

British person: "nah can't do that mate, I don't wanna clean toilets"

Me: "but you said you'd do anything"

British person: "Yeah, but don't wanna do that"

So basically, immigrants are taking these jobs because they're not too up themselves to do them. That conversation happened plenty of times, and they ALWAYS started with the person saying something along the lines of "immigrants are taking all the jobs". The fact is there are jobs out there that British people think they're too good for, so don't apply and so are unemployed for longer than they would have been if they'd just lowered their standards a bit.

It's not like immigrants are taking high level, well paid jobs. They're taking the menial tasks that British people don't want. They're taking jobs from uneducated and unqualified British people because for some reason those Brits think that even with no qualifications, they can walk into a highly paid job. Fact is they can't. They keep failing to get these jobs and instead of lowering their sights and applying for jobs they do have a chance to get, they'd rather blame someone else.


Newsflash: they actually are.
Original post by Kickflip
I view it from the opposite perspective. I could not give a flying toss if immigrants are poor in their own countries or not.


So if you were an employer, and you had 5 immigrant candidates who were perfect for the job and a 6th who was a retard but was British, you'd hire the 6th one?

You see if everyone did that, then it'd not just be bye-bye foreigners, it'd be bye-bye economy...
Original post by RyanT
We'd rather not take other peoples jobs and would be much happier if people like you disappeared. There is no good reason an ethnic British person should be unemployed so a foreigner like you can take a role in our economy that they may of otherwise had. It's time Britain stood for the British.


I don't really understand where this mentality that jobs belong to people comes from.

You get given a job if the employer want's you to do it for them. That is the be all and end all.

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