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Well done Libya's "Uprising"

Congratulations you now have no government, no rule of law and thousands of people armed. How long before the U.S sends in an economic hitman and takes over your country and enslaves your pathetic lives?
Reply 1
I don't know, the rebels seem to have established a relatively strong rule of law in the areas they've captured and we don't hear of atrocities as such coming out from Benghazi or Misruta.They have the TNC for a government (which has recently published a provisional constitution) at the moment. It's not exactly Somalia post-Civil War with Warlords fighting each other. For now the rebels seem unified. It also already had thousands of people armed beforehand, it wasn't exactly a Western Country with strong gun control laws.
Reply 2
If 10 years from now Libya still full of "armed gangs",then you can say it a failure.And "slave"?For the meaning of slave,was Japan(no need to tell more about) after WW2 an US's "slave"?I don't know but some countries,such as Japan,South Korea and Philippines that allied(slave) to the US are pretty rich and have democracy now.
Reply 3
Inb4 it's just going to be another regime and Gaddaffi loyals become the next rebels in a few decades.
Reply 4
Wow 12 hours since the rebels get into Tripoli and you are already bitching at them for not having setting up a fully functional government yet. Brilliant just brilliant
Reply 5
the saddest thing is that its the libyan people who are the losers, their free housing, free healthcare, free education paid for by oil profits are now in the hands of nato - all that just to vote
Reply 6
Original post by Tony_Soprano1
Congratulations you now have no government, no rule of law and thousands of people armed. How long before the U.S sends in an economic hitman and takes over your country and enslaves your pathetic lives?


The World Markets are already up, FTSE100 companies cant wait to get their hands on Libyan Oil

Some Trader on Sky News was getting excited at the prospect the TNC might sell some of gaddafis 20 billion dollar gold and forex reserves

that kind of feeling exists in Corporate World it feeds into government policy.
Gaddafi didnt loose because the rebels beat him, he lost because NATO destroyed his army bombed every single base. Then NATO flew in 1000s of rebels from Bengazi, meaning gaddafis already few supporters(most had been killed) became out numbered.

This was a tribal civil war . NATO created a insurgency then pushed it over the finishing line.
Gaddafi had a well thought out system of direct democracy based on Popular Committees,free healthcare,free education and no terrorist attacks
Reply 7
Original post by luckyclick
If 10 years from now Libya still full of "armed gangs",then you can say it a failure.And "slave"?For the meaning of slave,was Japan(no need to tell more about) after WW2 an US's "slave"?I don't know but some countries,such as Japan,South Korea and Philippines that allied(slave) to the US are pretty rich and have democracy now.


Yea the Japanese really love having US military bases :rolleyes: , the US economy made huge amounts of money from the reconstruction of Japan .
South Korea was built up to fight North Korea.

Libya cannot be used to fight proxy wars for the west.the Libya war was just an extension of the bank bailouts. Dictators exist in Burma,Zimbabwe but never touched.
Reply 8
Original post by James10000
The World Markets are already up, FTSE100 companies cant wait to get their hands on Libyan Oil

Gaddafi didnt loose because the rebels beat him, he lost because NATO destroyed his army bombed every single base. Then NATO flew in 1000s of rebels from Bengazi, meaning gaddafis already few supporters(most had been killed) became out numbered.

This was a tribal civil war . NATO created a insurgency then pushed it over the finishing line.
Gaddafi had a well thought out system of direct democracy based on Popular Committees,free healthcare,free education and no terrorist attacks


a) Yes NATO did loads plenty more than the resolution gave them permission to, but the NTC/revolutionaries did an awful lot. NTC troops are still fighting in Tripoli, they converted a crack battalion of Qaddafi's troops (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14619935) and never forget they actually rebelled in significant numbers in the first place.

b) Do you mean no terrorist attacks in Libya, or no terrorist attacks endorsed by the government on foreign nationals? Because the answers are pretty different.

I would be interested to hear about how Qaddafi's democratic system works, what provisions were there to ensure direct democracy was not overriden by government control?
Original post by Tony_Soprano1
Congratulations you now have no government, no rule of law and thousands of people armed. How long before the U.S sends in an economic hitman and takes over your country and enslaves your pathetic lives?


Are you implying that the rebels canot install and form their own government ?
Reply 10
Original post by Freaknik
the saddest thing is that its the libyan people who are the losers, their free housing, free healthcare, free education paid for by oil profits are now in the hands of nato - all that just to vote


What free healthcare? Healthcare and hospital provisions in Libya are so atrocious that anyone with a medical problem goes straight to Tunisia. The country was in a shambolic state for so many years under Gaddafi's rule. Things can only get better.
Yeah, I agree! Libya should have remained a repressive dictatorship just as a screw you to Western corporations...

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