[Evidza]

I wonder if the FSAC brains make allowance for the descent into insanity that many of the candidates take as they wait for the outcomes? Or is this indeed a test of the "7th Competency"?

A message just pinged into my phone and I leapt on it quicker than thought. Nada.

[psephologist]

(Original post by jiggogogo)
I'm through to DS FSB with a score of 19.29 - I have no idea if that's high or low.

Just to echo what others have said, the report is really detailed and is broken down into competencies with feedback from each part of the FSAC and the e-tray written exercise. They also summarise your strengths and 'areas for improvement' at the end of the report.

Anybody else care to share?

I got less than 19 but more than 18.5 and got through to the FSB so it looks like the range is pretty wide

[HLS]

Not heard anything back - FSAC was 27th Feb and I'm in for TiB.

I am almost certain I performed badly on the interview. Also I despise "feedback questionnaires" and told the assessors so when they gave them to me! So I expect I'm very much borderline if I've still not heard back.

[Evidza]

I passed for HR. In the words of Barack O, "I'm chuffed to bits".

[F6053721]

(Original post by Evidza)
I passed for HR. In the words of Barack O, "I'm chuffed to bits".

Did you find out today? I still haven't heard and I'm going for HR. although maybe not hearing isn't the worst news, I'm dreading the message cos my FSAC was awful.

[shellybean01]

(Original post by Evidza)
I passed for HR. In the words of Barack O, "I'm chuffed to bits".

Really good news congratulations! I passed for HR too most of my pre checks are sorted am excited to see what positions are offered

[cherno_samba]

(Original post by law-owl)
I just wanted to post on here. I got my FSAC results back and was rejected because I did not smile enough, nod my head like a nodding dog in the group exercise, and I tried to put my point across too much, yet that's what the brief said to do, put your point across! The assessor in the interview pulled me up on standing up for my rights, and thought I should just roll over and take it! I've got quite a bitter taste about it tbh, I'm disabled with mobility problems, and I feel they led me on just to tick a box in their "equal opportunities" mantra to say they've adhered to it. I'm, not like some others who are already in jobs, this was a once in a lifetime shot for me, because no-one else wantsto know, not when you've got a disability and I'm 35! Over the hill!! The only reason I wasn't smiling enough and nodding my head was because I had no sleep the previous night at the hotel due to all night construction work going on right outside, I was involved in a near train crash on the Paddington line on the Sunday (*day before), everything that could go wrong did go wrong! The taxi meant to pick me up went to the wrong place, it all fell to pieces. I think anyone on here experiencing the same things would not feel like smiling a lot on the day? I honestly do not know what they are looking for, but it's not for the likes of me who's just been tossed back onto the garbage heap where I supposedly belong! Sorry to intrude on other’s happiness, but not everyone got through FSAC, not everyone has another job as a back up, or a nice holiday to go on, I have nothing, no money, no career, a dead end. As for applying again, what's the point. Forget it, it's not all about competentices, the whole thing is a trick to trip you up, as outlined in my FSAC report. If you want more details, post me, I'll give them to you, but don't believe all what you read what they say they want you to know...As for HoP, I put it down 1st, but got results same day, how come it was so quick?!! So, there is no April day for letting you know results. My advice? Make sure you have back up if you go in for fast stream, as with all the cutbacks in the Civil Service, who knows when anyone's going to get the boot. So, if you want it and not afraid of getting the boot and you have a back up just in case, then go for fast stream, otherwise, leave it, they pick you up on the slightest little thing and use it as an excuse to get rid to save themselves. Rant over. Bitter and disillusioned? You're darn right I am. I feel I've been led on a wild goose chase to end up nowhere. They don't want anyone who challenges things, they seem to want "nodding dogs" that you get in the backs of car windows kind of thing. No disrespect to anyone on here, but when you get told you don't nod or smile much, then that's what they seem to want! As for smiling, my experience is, if you even so much as look at anyone, they say "what you looking at?" in a threatening tone. Smiling? Who the hell feels like smiling when they're knackered and stressed out. You have been warned, people...

Well, at least the experience hasn't made you bitter.

[lm222]

(Original post by shellybean01)
Really good news congratulations! I passed for HR too most of my pre checks are sorted am excited to see what positions are offered

I'm a little worried that thus far they've only asked me to complete the disclosure check - what other checks are they doing?

[Evidza]

(Original post by F6053721)
Did you find out today? I still haven't heard and I'm going for HR. although maybe not hearing isn't the worst news, I'm dreading the message cos my FSAC was awful.

Yes. Message was sent before 2, and I had only just seen it when I posted. I found some of my performance awful too, if that helps. On the one of the feedback forms when asked what I would do differently next time, my response was "Everything".

Sometimes we are our harshest critics.


Thanks shellybean

lm222, we have this in the pre-appointment section:

PRE-APPOINTMENT CHECK DESCRIPTION / DOWNLOAD FORM CURRENT STATUS STATUS DATE
Academic Referee (details taken from Application Form)
Present Employment Reference (details from Movements for last 3 years form)
Previous Employment (details from Movements for last 3 years form)
Health Declaration - Download Form or

Character Enquiry - Download Form or

Movements for last three years - Download Form or

Original Degree Certificate and/or Original University Transcript
Criminal Record Declaration and Disclosure Application form (with barcode) - Forms sent to you by post
Passport or Personal Identity (produced at FS Assessment Centre)
Documentary evidence of significant periods abroad in the last 3 years.

[shellybean01]

(Original post by lm222)
I'm a little worried that thus far they've only asked me to complete the disclosure check - what other checks are they doing?

EVerything listed above by Evidza is what I have completed, everything successful just waiting for the disclosure to go through.

[F6053721]

(Original post by Evidza)
I passed for HR. In the words of Barack O, "I'm chuffed to bits".

Just out of interest how long did you have to wait from attending FSAC to getting your result?

[Evidza]

Had FSAC last week.

[Chiryu]

I'm sorry to hear you had such a rough experience pre-FSAC, and I'm also sorry to hear that you were unsuccessful in your application. Given your description of events preceding the FSAC, it's no wonder you may not have been on top form on the day. However, looking at it a different way, you've got some detailed and invaluable feedback, from my point of view, I've never been given so much feedback on a job application in my life (I'm a year younger than you). I don't know about your experience, but on reflection the feedback I got - whilst being harsh in places - was on the whole a true reflection of me right now.

(Original post by law-owl)
I got my FSAC results back and was rejected because I did not smile enough, nod my head like a nodding dog in the group exercise, and I tried to put my point across too much

Building productive relationships can often be impaired by missing the small things like were mentioned above.

Taking your final point above: In the past 10 years, I've been in many, many meetings where people are fixated in getting their point across to the extent that they stop listening to what other people are saying, and the general outcome of this is that no consensus is ever built and you reach a deadlock.

These meetings are, IMO, much less useful than those where balanced and moderate discussion takes place, with people trying their best to put their points forward whilst still listening to the opinions of others, and building on the issues that arise.

(Original post by law-owl)
I feel they led me on just to tick a box in their "equal opportunities" mantra to say they've adhered to it.

Unlikely. The following figures come from the Fast Stream Recruitment Report 2010 (I doubt this year's statistics will be wildly different, they've been quite similar in recent years):

Number of disabled candidates: 1,136 (5.2% of all applications)
Number appointed: 63 (13.5% of all appointments)

That's an overall success rate of 5.54% which is very favourable - for reference, the overall average success rate was 2.14%, and the success rate for people stating no disability was 1.95%.

(You want to see some large inequalities? The success rate for non-white candidates is only 1.23% as compared with 2.38% for white candidates. The success rate for Oxbridge is 5.26%, compared with 1.82% for non-Oxbridge)

(Original post by law-owl)
I think anyone on here experiencing the same things would not feel like smiling a lot on the day?

Totally understandable. However, the trick here is to smile nonetheless (and make other social cues - nodding in agreement, making eye contact, etc) even despite not feeling like it. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to do this in my professional life (at the moment I'm now a secondary school teacher, so have had to do it more often than usual!).

Sorry if any of this comes off as patronising, this isn't my intention - I just wanted to present a different viewpoint. And if all you were rejected on was truly not nodding and smiling during the group exercise, that's a clear and not-too-tricky development point to address - I'd certainly be tempted to re-apply next year in that case (and personally - if I'm booted out at the TiB FSB I'll certainly be reapplying next year).

[richardp2020]

There are a few of us over 30 that I've noticed, and I agree age or disability really isn't an issue. If you play it right, it's actually an advantage. I'd encourage anyone who fails first time to reapply, you definitely stand a good chance second time around. There is a lot of jumping through hoops I admit, but in an assessment centre process, I can't see how they can do it any other way.

[Evidza]

Knowing one 40 year old disabled candidate and alumnus of London South Bank Univ. who got through, I agree with the above. Plus I am over 30, too.

[RDCF12]

Hey everyone, just for edification, I've just today been informed I got through FSAC to Central Departments (my 3rd choice) with a mark in the mid-17s. My FSAC itself was back at the end of January. Can I just get confirmation that a pass to CD is a guaranteed job, Somewhere?! Don't want to go quitting my current job only to get thrown out at another hurdle!!

[Chiryu]

(Original post by RDCF12)
Can I just get confirmation that a pass to CD is a guaranteed job, Somewhere?! Don't want to go quitting my current job only to get thrown out at another hurdle!!

The general advice is don't quit your current job until you get a start date. Whilst you are guaranteed a job somewhere if you are accepted in CD, it is not guaranteed when exactly this will be. For some people it's early summer, but if you are very unlucky it's possible this might not be until next year!

[Gnocchi321]

Are results for FSACs only given out on Mondays and Fridays or does it vary?

[schick_88]

(Original post by Gnocchi321)
Are results for FSACs only given out on Mondays and Fridays or does it vary?

It's mainly monday but I have seen people get results during the week too so its hard to know I just keep checking a few times during the day but it seems to mainly be the afternoon when people get results

[Gnocchi321]

Just found out I was successful, so obviously not just Mondays and Fridays. Thanks for your advice!