[AllTheGood1'sRGone]

(Original post by iLoveRobSwire<3)
I'm gonna make my brother get MW3 and I'll get AC.
And I'm on PS3

Haha, good idea :P
Ahhh, PS3...tut tut

The only real way we can decide if PS3 or Xbox is better, is to determine how many ignorant idiots there are on each.

Like the little kids who are shocked that people over the age of 20 play video games, or those that still find it absurd girls enjoy video games.

Because on Xbox, I usually meet about 2 or 3 every other hour :P how many do you get on PS3?

[iLoveRobSwire<3]

(Original post by AllTheGood1'sRGone)
Haha, good idea :P
Ahhh, PS3...tut tut

The only real way we can decide if PS3 or Xbox is better, is to determine how many ignorant idiots there are on each.

Like the little kids who are shocked that people over the age of 20 play video games, or those that still find it absurd girls enjoy video games.

Because on Xbox, I usually meet about 2 or 3 every other hour :P how many do you get on PS3?

There's nothing wrong with the PS3!!

Well there are a few of those 12 year olds who think that all women should be in the kitchen
If I'm on my mic (rarely) and they say kitchen jokes to me, I tell them to go hit puberty

I'm guessing there's a lot of fanboys on xbox?

[AllTheGood1'sRGone]

(Original post by iLoveRobSwire<3)
There's nothing wrong with the PS3!!

Well there are a few of those 12 year olds who think that all women should be in the kitchen
If I'm on my mic (rarely) and they say kitchen jokes to me, I tell them to go hit puberty

I'm guessing there's a lot of fanboys on xbox?

PS3 = Everyone I know seems to complain of a slight lag on PS3, and NO ONE uses the Microphones from what I hear :P

Xbox = You have to pay for it Lots of fanboys

Yes, I'm a red head and since I'm proud of it my Gamertag is GiNGER ToM 94, meaning as soon as I join a lobby, there's usually 2 or 3 people going on and on about the hair colour :P So yes, plenty of fan boys, but sometimes they're funny because they're so stupid.

Like these 13-14 year old British kids were arguing with a Canadian girl and 3 American guys. Me being English, the Americans started on me, being red-haired, the British kids started on me haha

Was even funnier when an American guy said: GOD I HATE THE BRITISH
and this kid goes: I AIN'T EVEN BRITISH, I'M WELSH YOU DUMB ****
So not only is everyone argumentative, the majority of them are stupid as well :')

For this reason, Xbox LIVE makes people feel better about themselves, hahaha

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(Original post by ifstatement)
Modern Warfare 3 looks too much like black ops imo. .

every cod game looks the same really ever since MW and excluding WaW, its just a re hash of the previous with a different game mode. Entertaining to begin with but gets old quick

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(Original post by AllTheGood1'sRGone)
Was even funnier when an American guy said: GOD I HATE THE BRITISH
and this kid goes: I AIN'T EVEN BRITISH, I'M WELSH YOU DUMB ****

oh dear

i hope you put him straight if the american guy didn't

[AllTheGood1'sRGone]

(Original post by abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz)
oh dear

i hope you put him straight if the american guy didn't

I did, unfortunately the American guy didn't know Wales was part of Britain too, I think he thought Britain was just another name for England -.-

It kinda makes ashamed to play xbox, because it means I enjoy the same things as some complete idiots haha

[iLoveRobSwire<3]

(Original post by AllTheGood1'sRGone)
PS3 = Everyone I know seems to complain of a slight lag on PS3, and NO ONE uses the Microphones from what I hear :P

Xbox = You have to pay for it Lots of fanboys

Yes, I'm a red head and since I'm proud of it my Gamertag is GiNGER ToM 94, meaning as soon as I join a lobby, there's usually 2 or 3 people going on and on about the hair colour :P So yes, plenty of fan boys, but sometimes they're funny because they're so stupid.

Like these 13-14 year old British kids were arguing with a Canadian girl and 3 American guys. Me being English, the Americans started on me, being red-haired, the British kids started on me haha

Was even funnier when an American guy said: GOD I HATE THE BRITISH
and this kid goes: I AIN'T EVEN BRITISH, I'M WELSH YOU DUMB ****
So not only is everyone argumentative, the majority of them are stupid as well :')

For this reason, Xbox LIVE makes people feel better about themselves, hahaha

Awww, some people really are special.
I've never been in an arguement with someone on mic, it's mostly by messages. I get a lot of hate messages for 'ruining their nuke' or something, even when they're boosting

[Tabris]

(Original post by TheCrackInTime)
That is perhaps stretching it a bit far.

Black Ops and MW3 both run on the same basic game engine (the IW engine), albeit different versions.

That doesn't really mean much. Obviously it isn't going to be completely different, otherwise it wouldn't be a CoD game; but they won't be identical either.

People nowadays are way to quick to say engine this and engine that when they don't know how variable an engine can be. This isn't aimed at you, but just people in general.

For example, every version of the IW engine is based on iDT3. iDT3 covers games across a multitude of ranges from Quake, to CoD and many other games. The same applies for the Unreal engine, which runs games like Gears of War, Unreal Tournament and the tactical shooter, America's Army. Every Battlefield game from 2142 to 1942 used the same Refractor engine and Battlefield games since BC have used newer versions of the Frostbite engine.

The engine is not the game in its entirety, it provides a base/frame to work upon and that's about it. What a game engine does give you though, is the opportunity to use certain graphics or physics properties. The fact that IW's engine is based on their previous iterations doesn't mean that the game is going to be exactly the same. It's like saying that Unreal Tournament is the same as America's Army because they both use UE. Likewise with Day of Defeat, Counter Strike, Half-Life and Insurgency from the Source engine.

Besides MW2 and 3's version of the IW engine derivative is on a different branch to the engine used for Treyarch's own modified IW engine that they used for WaW, which was subsequently modified for Black Ops. It doesn't mean that they'll be vastly different, but they certainly won't be identical either.

People who throw out engine this and engine that nowadays don't know anything other than it being a buzzword thrown about to perpetuate the fanboyish belief that one game is better than another.

[TheCrackInTime]

(Original post by Tabris)
That doesn't really mean much. Obviously it isn't going to be completely different, otherwise it wouldn't be a CoD game; but they won't be identical either.

People nowadays are way to quick to say engine this and engine that when they don't know how variable an engine can be. This isn't aimed at you, but just people in general.

For example, every version of the IW engine is based on iDT3. iDT3 covers games across a multitude of ranges from Quake, to CoD and many other games. The same applies for the Unreal engine, which runs games like Gears of War, Unreal Tournament and the tactical shooter, America's Army. Every Battlefield game from 2142 to 1942 used the same Refractor engine and Battlefield games since BC have used newer versions of the Frostbite engine.

The engine is not the game in its entirety, it provides a base/frame to work upon and that's about it. What a game engine does give you though, is the opportunity to use certain graphics or physics properties. The fact that IW's engine is based on their previous iterations doesn't mean that the game is going to be exactly the same. It's like saying that Unreal Tournament is the same as America's Army because they both use UE. Likewise with Day of Defeat, Counter Strike, Half-Life and Insurgency from the Source engine.

Besides MW2 and 3's version of the IW engine derivative is on a different branch to the engine used for Treyarch's own modified IW engine that they used for WaW, which was subsequently modified for Black Ops. It doesn't mean that they'll be vastly different, but they certainly won't be identical either.

People who throw out engine this and engine that nowadays don't know anything other than it being a buzzword thrown about to perpetuate the fanboyish belief that one game is better than another.

Yes I know that, but that isn't what I was saying. I was simply responding to the OP's point that Black Ops and MW3 run on a "completely different game engine", which they don't.

[AllTheGood1'sRGone]

(Original post by iLoveRobSwire<3)
Awww, some people really are special.
I've never been in an arguement with someone on mic, it's mostly by messages. I get a lot of hate messages for 'ruining their nuke' or something, even when they're boosting

Haha :P Good ol' Mw2

Arguments over the mic are the best definitely, but only if you make comebacks quickly :P

[Tabris]

(Original post by TheCrackInTime)
Yes I know that, but that isn't what I was saying. I was simply responding to the OP's point that Black Ops and MW3 run on a "completely different game engine", which they don't.

That's why I said, this isn't aimed at you [but people in general].

Just sayin'.

No hate.

Not going to lie though, that's what I thought you said at first

[iLoveRobSwire<3]

(Original post by AllTheGood1'sRGone)
Haha :P Good ol' Mw2

Arguments over the mic are the best definitely, but only if you make comebacks quickly :P

Most of the time I don't know what to say
I just sit there thinking 'that's mean!'
Childish me.

[AllTheGood1'sRGone]

(Original post by iLoveRobSwire<3)
Most of the time I don't know what to say
I just sit there thinking 'that's mean!'
Childish me.

Haha :P That's the funniest thing though, because all these kids think they're really insulting you, when really they're just making up lies about my mother, and stuff, so it's just funny to wind them up and hear all their little overly emphasised expletives thrown into sentences haha

[iLoveRobSwire<3]

(Original post by AllTheGood1'sRGone)
Haha :P That's the funniest thing though, because all these kids think they're really insulting you, when really they're just making up lies about my mother, and stuff, so it's just funny to wind them up and hear all their little overly emphasised expletives thrown into sentences haha

Haha, that's true. To be honest, I actually find kitchen jokes funny...
I don't tell them that though

[Tabris]

(Original post by iLoveRobSwire<3)
Most of the time I don't know what to say
I just sit there thinking 'that's mean!'
Childish me.

I've had people threaten to slit my throat for "cheating".

People get malicious when they get their arses handed to them on a platter repeatedly.

I don't use a mic, so it's just funny listening to people having a go without getting a response. More so when it's multiple people.

[jermaindefoe]

(Original post by TheCrackInTime)
Yes I know that, but that isn't what I was saying. I was simply responding to the OP's point that Black Ops and MW3 run on a &quot;completely different game engine&quot;, which they don't.

(Original post by Tabris)
That doesn't really mean much. Obviously it isn't going to be completely different, otherwise it wouldn't be a CoD game; but they won't be identical either.

People nowadays are way to quick to say engine this and engine that when they don't know how variable an engine can be. This isn't aimed at you, but just people in general.

For example, every version of the IW engine is based on iDT3. iDT3 covers games across a multitude of ranges from Quake, to CoD and many other games. The same applies for the Unreal engine, which runs games like Gears of War, Unreal Tournament and the tactical shooter, America's Army. Every Battlefield game from 2142 to 1942 used the same Refractor engine and Battlefield games since BC have used newer versions of the Frostbite engine.

The engine is not the game in its entirety, it provides a base/frame to work upon and that's about it. What a game engine does give you though, is the opportunity to use certain graphics or physics properties. The fact that IW's engine is based on their previous iterations doesn't mean that the game is going to be exactly the same. It's like saying that Unreal Tournament is the same as America's Army because they both use UE. Likewise with Day of Defeat, Counter Strike, Half-Life and Insurgency from the Source engine.

Besides MW2 and 3's version of the IW engine derivative is on a different branch to the engine used for Treyarch's own modified IW engine that they used for WaW, which was subsequently modified for Black Ops. It doesn't mean that they'll be vastly different, but they certainly won't be identical either.

People who throw out engine this and engine that nowadays don't know anything other than it being a buzzword thrown about to perpetuate the fanboyish belief that one game is better than another.

My miswording still doesnt disguise the fact the games will look and play nothing like each other - and the way the engine has been customised means they pretty much are completely different

the smoothness of mw2 was completley lost on black ops - you can't say they aren't worlds apart.

[Tabris]

(Original post by jermaindefoe)
the smoothness of mw2 was completley lost on black ops - you can't say they aren't worlds apart.

It's more to do with Treyarch's inability to make the most out of the engine and making crappy tweaks to the engine than the original engine itself.

I mean, if Treyarch used the same engine that IW used for MW2 or even if it used the same version if IWE that MW3 is going to use, it'd still be trash; all I'm really saying is that the engine provides a canvas for you to work on.

The canvas for the IW engine branch will be similar, though there will be differences here and there due to the tweaks each developer has taken with their branch. But what each developer paints is a completely different thing and that matters more than the engine itself.

I agree that BlOps isn't as smooth as MW2, but I pin that down to Treyarch's inability to make FPS games in general, not just their tweaks to the IWE.

Edit: I mean, one of the things that makes Black Ops so bad is the fact that nearly every automatic weapon is identical, or at least has a clone within its class. That means that a lot of weapons are instantly unviable for use. Things like giving 18/19 automatic weapons rates of fire of either 750 or 937.5 and nothing but, using 4 recoil patterns for 24 or so weapons, or giving the same range profile to every weapon in the same class; that's down to Treyarch's inability to balance weapons beyond making them almost identical to make them seem "balanced", not the engine they're using.

In fact, if anything, I'm agreeing with you since I'm saying that similar engines can produce vastly different games. Albeit that variation isn't as large with CoD games because they're part of the same series; that doesn't mean that they aren't different though.

[iLoveRobSwire<3]

(Original post by Tabris)
I've had people threaten to slit my throat for "cheating".

People get malicious when they get their arses handed to them on a platter repeatedly.

I don't use a mic, so it's just funny listening to people having a go without getting a response. More so when it's multiple people.

That's when the messages come in
Usually they don't spell words correctly while raging, so I reply with the corrections

[Tabris]

(Original post by iLoveRobSwire<3)
That's when the messages come in
Usually they don't spell words correctly while raging, so I reply with the corrections

I normally tell them not to get so angry at a video game because I'm better at pressing buttons than they are. It really gets to people when you demean something they're getting super angry about.

It's better when they threaten to ban me because they "work for XBL". I'll either play along and ask them to try to ban me or tell them that I'm reporting them to XBL and that it's in the EULA that they can be permanently banned for posing as a member of XBL staff, just for the sake of the reaction they usually give when finding that out.

[iLoveRobSwire<3]

(Original post by Tabris)


I normally tell them not to get so angry at a video game because I'm better at pressing buttons than they are. It really gets to people when you demean something they're getting super angry about.

It's better when they threaten to ban me because they "work for XBL". I'll either play along and ask them to try to ban me or tell them that I'm reporting them to XBL and that it's in the EULA that they can be permanently banned for posing as a member of XBL staff, just for the sake of the reaction they usually give when finding that out.

Hahaha you're evil.
To be honest, it's just a game and they get too angry over it.