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Hi there guys im from Pembrookshire doin my A2's and wanna study IR! Just wanted to know if I'm good enough to get into Oxford in 2013.

I applied at AS in 2012 with:-

Economics - C, Photography - C, Geography - A, Politics - A, English - C.

Resat Eco AS in Jan and got almost 100% now on a high A, this is why I wanna reapply! Doin Politics, Eco and Geo at A2.

My predicted grades were AAB before the resit.

I got all 5 offers from Uni of Nottingham, Uni Of Leicester, Uni of Birmingham, Uni of Leeds and Loughborough. Cuz of an amazing personal statment. Mostly due to charity work I did in Ghana. I am going to spend my gap year in China doing work and learning the culture.

GCSEs: - A* RS, A science, A economics, A additional Science, A pe, A English literature, B geo, B maths, B add maths, C spanish, B english,

Play a lot of football, cross country, tennis and basketball

Got a wealth of work experiece, D of E Bronze Award. Assuming I got 3 A*'s at A Level in Geo, politics and Eco do I have a realistic chance to get there? Considering the offers I got? Or are there any other realistic unis I should go for?
Original post by Poppyxx
TSA wise - just do the practice papers and make sure you know how to write a good essay (but not an A Level style ticking the box one). I had a textbook which I cannot remember the name of at the moment - it's the one that was recommended when I did it (2009). It was useful in terms of getting used to the style of questions, but I didn't use it much to be honest. I can't really remember how I prepared for the TSA - I didn't do a whole lot in preparation.

This was a really unhelpful answer.

But I'm in my 2nd year at Oxford doing PPE, so if you have any questions feel free to send them my way. Although I will admit the application process seems a lifetime ago now!


Hi, got a couple questions and I'd really appreciate some answers.

Firstly, what were your five choices? Did you apply for PPE all round?

This gets asked a lot but what was your PS like?

And how's the workload/social life at Oxford?

Cheers
Original post by knowledgecorruptz
Hi, got a couple questions and I'd really appreciate some answers.

Firstly, what were your five choices? Did you apply for PPE all round?

This gets asked a lot but what was your PS like?

And how's the workload/social life at Oxford?

Cheers


Warwick - PPE (who rejected me)
Durham - PPE
Oxford - PPE
Bath - Economics and Politics
St Andrews - Economics and Philosophy

So no, not PPE all around.

PS was all academic apart from a very short paragraph on extra curriculars. Can't remember it a whole lot - but I spoke about what attracted me to the 3 elements (what areas interested me) and about how my A Levels fitted in (i.e. what skills they would give me).

Workload in your first year really varies between colleges - my college teaches all 3 subjects for 2 terms, with revision/top up tutes in the last term before exams. Other colleges will teach Econ and Pol one term, Pol and Phil the next and Econ and Phil in the last for example. First term for us was horrendous - 2 essays plus Economic problem sets and logic question sets. Second term was lots better, and third term was obviously great! Some people claim PPEists do nothing all day, but no one in my college could say that about 1st years in their first term!

Now I'm in 2nd year, I write 2 essays a week. It's definitely a manageable workload. I don't feel like I'm in the library constantly, but I know I have to dedicate a good amount of time to each essay. There's nothing worse then knowing you've written a bad essay or not read enough, and having to sit in front of the tutor and discuss it for an hour. Lectures are optional at Oxford, tutorials are obviously not. It's up to you as to how much work you put in.

I feel I'm pretty conscientious with work - up for 9 every day... Spend my days working, at lectures/tutorials, and sitting in the JCR chatting. I'm my college's netball captain, and play college hockey and mixed lacrosse as well. I'm on the JCR committee which I love but is another time commitment. On average I'd say I go out 3 nights a week - often with one of them a crew date / drinking society. I normally find time in the week for a coffee/drink with an old school friend as well - to remind myself there is a world outside of my college!

I think I have a good work/life balance - At Oxford you could spend your days doing nothing and rush to finish every essay. Or you can organise your time well. Obviously I still have stressful weeks. 8 week terms go so fast and I do feel like I'm constantly busy, but I like being busy. I just collapse when I get home for the vac!

I'm enjoying 2nd year far more than first - friendship groups more secure, enjoying the work more because I've picked the papers I'm doing etc.
You have to see oxfords minimum requirements for your specific course.
If you meet them, then by all means apply. But do be cautious. Oxford have a high weighing on GCSE and usually want x+ amount of A*s.
but if like you say, your personal statement is perfect then it should help set your application and balance it out.
As for your last questions with 3A* at A-level then i would advise you to look at Cambridge uni.
Good luck and hope you get what you want!
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Original post by Andy16
I'll jump on the bandwagon then and state my situation.

Considering Oxford Chemistry. Currently at AS, and its safe to say that I couldve done better at GCSE. I focused on the sciences pretty early on and did badly for alot of the early tests for the other subjects. I did very well in the year 11 summer papers overall (A*'s in english and history compared to my averaged C or B)

It was too little too late and my final results were
2A*'s (chem and phys) 3 A's (bio maths r.e) and 5 B's.

Doing three sciences and maths now, hopefully will be on course to an eventual A*AA with chem A*

In short, by only having 2A*'s at GCSE, is my application notably weakened?


To be brutally honest, pre-interview, yes, you will be disadvantaged. The best thing you can do is to WORK YOUR SOCKS OFF!! And get excellent AS UMS... And I mean at least 90% in every module.... Then declare these in your personal statement or ask you teacher to put it in your reference. Since they interview most people for Chem, provided that you get the marks at AS, you should have no problem getting to interview.
Secondly, start preparing for interviews now, most of the higher ranking institutions interview for chemistry (all but one of the unis I applied to interviewed me). Once you get to interview, the playing field has levelled significantly... Keep calm and impress them and you should be fine....
Good luck and feel free to pm me for advice :smile:
Oxford don't do IR

So... PPE or History and Politics are your only options
Reply 1426
Who knows if Oxford will exist in 2013? It could get hit by an asteroid..
Reply 1427
Oxford don't give a **** about DofE... I think they're more focused on the academics.
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Original post by Jecaw
To be brutally honest, pre-interview, yes, you will be disadvantaged. The best thing you can do is to WORK YOUR SOCKS OFF!! And get excellent AS UMS... And I mean at least 90% in every module.... Then declare these in your personal statement or ask you teacher to put it in your reference. Since they interview most people for Chem, provided that you get the marks at AS, you should have no problem getting to interview.
Secondly, start preparing for interviews now, most of the higher ranking institutions interview for chemistry (all but one of the unis I applied to interviewed me). Once you get to interview, the playing field has levelled significantly... Keep calm and impress them and you should be fine....
Good luck and feel free to pm me for advice :smile:


Thank you for the very informative reply :smile:. Will be sending some pm's your way soon lol
Original post by saey
1. it depends on the subject
2. AS Levels count for a lot more
3. It depends on where you sit in your school; if these are waaaaaaaay below average for your school, don't bother. If they are borderline average AND you pull off super AS Levels perhaps consider it.

You will have to have a really, really super application and you will need to truly shine at interview to pull it off. These grades will cut your chances of even getting an interview significantly.

Applying strateigically might also be an option. For example, EVERYONE with above 50% in the Oxford Physics admissions test gets an interview regardless, I think. OR apply to a less competetive college (Peterhouse used to offer ALL mathematics applicants an interview regardless - sadly this is no longer the case). You can look into other ways of making your GCSEs simply not count prior to the interview process.

Personally, I would say it was a waste of a choice and why should I belive you will get A*A*A* is you only managed one at GCSE which is worlds easier? (Oxbridge routinely reject kids with 4A* predictions)

These GCSE's were the third highest at my high school (but it was a pretty rubbish school and the careers advisor was crap anyway) As I said, I got over 90% in my january A2 Modules, umm.... I know Oxford do BMAT's and I think thats why the difference in interview percentages...... I don't know, but thank you very much for your advice :smile:
Again, I would like to thank all for their contributions, whether or not they are seen as positive or negative, they are ALL very helpful, even if I havn't replied to you :smile:

Thanks again :biggrin:
Probably, but the fact that you keep putting an apostrophe in GCSEs might make them wonder how you got an A in English Language.
Medicine is already one of the most competitive subjects out there, why add the extra difficulty of Oxbridge to that? Medical degrees are of equal standing in the UK wherever you gain them; all courses which lead to the student becoming a medical doctor are regulated by the GMC and of course all doctors must be of the same standard and have the same capabilities.
In all honesty, the majority of other applicants will have better GCSEs than you do, so will already have better scores when ranked for interview. Also, many medical schools specify GCSE grades (e.g. Birmingham specify 7+ A*s, UEA ask for at least 6 A/A*s, and all of these usually include English, Maths and Science). You need to take a good look at the requirements of UK schools in terms of GCSEs, see if any are viable, and if you stand a chance.
To be frank, I'm not sure your GCSEs will get you far in medicine or Oxbridge, and to try them in both I'm pretty certain would be fruitless. But I have been wrong before, and if you want to do medicine and have everything else medical schools will ask for (a lot of work experience, extra curriculars, roles in school and the community, etc.) then I wish you luck.
Original post by Poppyxx
Warwick - PPE (who rejected me)
Durham - PPE
Oxford - PPE
Bath - Economics and Politics
St Andrews - Economics and Philosophy

So no, not PPE all around.

PS was all academic apart from a very short paragraph on extra curriculars. Can't remember it a whole lot - but I spoke about what attracted me to the 3 elements (what areas interested me) and about how my A Levels fitted in (i.e. what skills they would give me).

Workload in your first year really varies between colleges - my college teaches all 3 subjects for 2 terms, with revision/top up tutes in the last term before exams. Other colleges will teach Econ and Pol one term, Pol and Phil the next and Econ and Phil in the last for example. First term for us was horrendous - 2 essays plus Economic problem sets and logic question sets. Second term was lots better, and third term was obviously great! Some people claim PPEists do nothing all day, but no one in my college could say that about 1st years in their first term!

Now I'm in 2nd year, I write 2 essays a week. It's definitely a manageable workload. I don't feel like I'm in the library constantly, but I know I have to dedicate a good amount of time to each essay. There's nothing worse then knowing you've written a bad essay or not read enough, and having to sit in front of the tutor and discuss it for an hour. Lectures are optional at Oxford, tutorials are obviously not. It's up to you as to how much work you put in.

I feel I'm pretty conscientious with work - up for 9 every day... Spend my days working, at lectures/tutorials, and sitting in the JCR chatting. I'm my college's netball captain, and play college hockey and mixed lacrosse as well. I'm on the JCR committee which I love but is another time commitment. On average I'd say I go out 3 nights a week - often with one of them a crew date / drinking society. I normally find time in the week for a coffee/drink with an old school friend as well - to remind myself there is a world outside of my college!

I think I have a good work/life balance - At Oxford you could spend your days doing nothing and rush to finish every essay. Or you can organise your time well. Obviously I still have stressful weeks. 8 week terms go so fast and I do feel like I'm constantly busy, but I like being busy. I just collapse when I get home for the vac!

I'm enjoying 2nd year far more than first - friendship groups more secure, enjoying the work more because I've picked the papers I'm doing etc.


Thanks for the informative response! Really appreciate it.

Some more questions: What A Levels did you do? And do you think you were at all disadvantaged (in regard to your PS) from not having PPE all around, having to adjust your PS to impress for other courses?

Workload sounds reasonable. Don't know about getting up at 9 everyday, though! It sounds like it was pretty easy to make friends, socialise etc....and the course looks genuinely interesting. I take it you don't have the freedom to pick your modules in your first year? Is that particularly restrictive?
Original post by knowledgecorruptz
Thanks for the informative response! Really appreciate it.

Some more questions: What A Levels did you do? And do you think you were at all disadvantaged (in regard to your PS) from not having PPE all around, having to adjust your PS to impress for other courses?

Workload sounds reasonable. Don't know about getting up at 9 everyday, though! It sounds like it was pretty easy to make friends, socialise etc....and the course looks genuinely interesting. I take it you don't have the freedom to pick your modules in your first year? Is that particularly restrictive?


I did Economics, Maths, History and German

I don't think I was disadvantaged with my PS... I wrote it for PPE and got offers from everywhere except one of my PPE choices. So clearly it wasn't a problem. I think universities are aware that not everyone applies to identical courses at every university, especially when not all that many offer a course (as is the case with PPE). As long as you're not applying for Medicine at 3 and PPE at 2 it really shouldn't be too much of a problem - slight variances are unavoidable in a fair number of cases.

As your UCAS form will arrive before the Oxbridge deadline at all your choices, they'll know it's more than likely you've applied to Oxbridge and hence have probably written the PS with that course in mind. Whether they take offence at that - not in my case, but perhaps others have had a different experience. As an aside I have a friend who wrote "I want to study History at Oxford..." in the opening line of his PS (perhaps slightly more eloquently, but definitely referred to Oxford) and still got 3 other offers.

In my experience most universities have set modules in the first year - with perhaps outside options being the only choice you have (no outside options at Oxford). They need to set a good groundwork, since everyone will have a different level of knowledge. PPE first year is a broad introduction to the 3 disciplines - but I wouldn't say it feels restrictive. Within each I felt there's enough breadth to find the areas which interest you more. For example in Politics you do political philosophy (e.g. Mill / Marx) and study politics of democracies (e.g. US/UK/France). In your first year exams you need to answer 4 questions with at least one question from each area. So I did 1 on Marx and 3 on democracies because that's the weighting I preferred and knew that throughout the year.
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Original post by James82
Probably, but the fact that you keep putting an apostrophe in GCSEs might make them wonder how you got an A in English Language.


Hate people who can't realise that there are no apostrophes in plurals...
I don't know whether I am aiming too high and should just get on with life and apply (next year) to a UNI less demanding.
my gcse's:
food tech (completed a year early) - A*
Eng Lang - A*
core science - A
(predicted)
music - A/A*
geog - A/A*
German - B
RS - A/B
eng lit - A*
add science - A

and maths - B
I know i may need an overall A or A* at gcse maths to have a chance at Oxbridge (I don't mind whether Oxford or Cambridge)
is it worth me worrying about it - or do I have no chance in getting into these two top UNI's without decent GCSE grades?!

PLEASE HELP ME OUT!
Original post by jessiehine
I don't know whether I am aiming too high and should just get on with life and apply (next year) to a UNI less demanding.
my gcse's:
food tech (completed a year early) - A*
Eng Lang - A*
core science - A
(predicted)
music - A/A*
geog - A/A*
German - B
RS - A/B
eng lit - A*
add science - A

and maths - B
I know i may need an overall A or A* at gcse maths to have a chance at Oxbridge (I don't mind whether Oxford or Cambridge)
is it worth me worrying about it - or do I have no chance in getting into these two top UNI's without decent GCSE grades?!

PLEASE HELP ME OUT!


Haha, you sound kinda desperate :wink: What subject would you be applying for?

They look okay. Make sure those A/A*s materialise as A*s...and yes, try your best to get an A* in Maths. But they do contextualise your grades...what type of school do you go to? If you reckon your grades will be considered high, relative to your school, there's not too much to worry about. And bear in mind that, especially at Cambridge, there's a lot more to take into account: Admissions test, AS UMS scores, Personal Statement, Extra-Currics, Interview. So yeah, definitely don't lose sleep over it.
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Original post by knowledgecorruptz
Haha, you sound kinda desperate :wink: What subject would you be applying for?

They look okay. Make sure those A/A*s materialise as A*s...and yes, try your best to get an A* in Maths. But they do contextualise your grades...what type of school do you go to? If you reckon your grades will be considered high, relative to your school, there's not too much to worry about. And bear in mind that, especially at Cambridge, there's a lot more to take into account: Admissions test, AS UMS scores, Personal Statement, Extra-Currics, Interview. So yeah, definitely don't lose sleep over it.



I would be applying for law - its always been a dream of mine since before I can remember to study at either oxford or Cambridge!
I go to a private school and I am deputy head girl and a prefect so maybe things like that would increase my chances, I don't know?!
I take modular maths and have two high B's in unit one and two. to get an A in maths I would have to get an A* in this final exam (unit 3) which is incredibly hard seeing as I have 14 more days left in school and more than a 1/3 of the syllabus left to do!
Original post by roh

Check this article's stats (Table 2) for proof that Oxbridge's dominance in nearly every other major profession (78% of judges!!) does not apply to medicine so don't worry about it:

http://www.suttontrust.com/news/news/the-educational-backgrounds-of-500-leading-figures/


That table is very interesting - repped.

However, i'm not sure about your conclusion... whilst nowhere near as dominated as fields like law, the fact that Oxbridge graduates (who represent 4% of the graduates) take 15% of "leading people" shows there is still a substantial advantage of going there. If you consider being a member of a medical council an advantage, that is! Things like the massive variation in MRCP pass rates could also be a consideration long term.

Of course, getting in somewhere is the most important thing though and takes priority over all else really.
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