[Lord Jon]

(Original post by New College of the Humanities)
Unless you win a scholarship or exhibition, you will pay tuition fees of £4,900 a term, a College fee of £980 a term and College examination fees of £360 a year. Total fees for the year are £18,000.

Anyone who is retarded enough to spend all of that money on that crap, deserves to be robbed of every penny they have and live in perpetual poverty!

[hobnob]

(Original post by nulli tertius)
I'm 5'10" and an employer and I know one of the professors. Will that do?

Definitely - it doesn't get much stronger than that. Because obviously this means that in three years' time you'll be happy to hire anyone who has attended a few lectures by the same professor on blind trust, right?

[Lord Jon]

(Original post by hobnob)
Where exactly would those 'strong links' come from seeing as they've only just started?

Probably the links that Grayling and Lipscomb have.

[hobnob]

(Original post by Agent Smirnoff)
Probably the links that Grayling and Lipscomb have.

Yes, but even then, what would those 'links' really consist of? Knowing a few people who now work in HR departments. But that doesn't change anything about the fact that the college hasn't produced any actual graduates yet and at this point it's anyone's guess what sort of people it will appeal to. They might not be the sort of people the 'links' are hoping to recruit. I'm sure they'll still hold recruiting events and the usual stuff and keep an eye on it just in case the college does turn out to produce amazing graduates, but trying to sell that as 'strong links' is misleading, no?

[Lord Jon]

(Original post by hobnob)
Yes, but even then, what would those 'links' really consist of? Knowing a few people who now work in HR departments. But that doesn't change anything about the fact that the college hasn't produced any actual graduates yet and at this point it's anyone's guess what sort of people it will appeal to. They might not be the sort of people the 'links' are hoping to recruit. I'm sure they'll still hold recruiting events and the usual stuff and keep an eye on it just in case the college does turn out to produce amazing graduates, but trying to sell that as 'strong links' is misleading, no?

Oh I get your point.

But still refer to my post above. (above that one )

I wouldn't waste my time or breath applying to that place. I would need to see at least the first set of graduates and where they go. (Most surveys of graduate destinations take place after 6 months of graduating and a degree takes 3 years or more) .... In which case I can go anywhere else.

But naturally people will apply and people will go on ahead and study there ..... it is a gamble with thier lives at the end but it is thier gamble with thier own lives and I don't care


Back to the point: It is quite misleading when you think of it that way. The links thing seems a bit dodgy.

[MWM]

Did they specifically tell you that AC Grayling will be interviewing you, or are you presuming he will ?
I know others who have got interviews and they haven't been specifically been told the AC Grayling will be interviewing them. I know that he will be giving a general speech to all applicants on the day.

With regards to career prospects, those that say they cannot judge NCH until they see where the first bath of grads end up is fine and I couldn't disagree with you. But the college's diploma includes in it quite a extensive list of professional skills that are taught. And although saying that they have "strong links" may be misleading, if you look at their non academic staff, their directors, CEO's and so on, they seem to have some past experience in the private sector. So that should aid those that graduate with a law or economics degree and those doing other subjects will have access to professors from world leading institutions, which can't harm their employment prospects. Never the less I agree with the person above who said that anyone who accepts an offer at this place will be taking a gamble with their future.

[oggdeferrer]

(Original post by MWM)
Did they specifically tell you that AC Grayling will be interviewing you, or are you presuming he will ?
I know others who have got interviews and they haven't been specifically been told the AC Grayling will be interviewing them. I know that he will be giving a general speech to all applicants on the day.
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Yeah I know that he is interviewing me, along with Suzanah Lipscomb - it stated that explicitly. I imagine it is because I am applying for English with a minor in Philosophy

[Slovebeach]

It seems that everyone who has applied to this place has applied for a minor in philosophy...
I've applied for History (...with philosophy) because I figured there was no harm applying as it wasn't one of my UCAS choices.
I have an interview on the 5th December, please let me know how yours goes!

[morecambebay]

How does the 'minor' thing work? On the London international program website there is no mention of it, so how are NCH students going to do it?

The work load they are putting on students is well over the top aswell. Taking philosophy as an example: the degree contains ten modules but NCH students have to do 11 + a dissertion (examined by who?) + 4 modules in a different subject + 3 core modules + professional skills. If all the modules are of equal size, It is two degrees worth of work.

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by morecambebay)
How does the 'minor' thing work? On the London international program website there is no mention of it, so how are NCH students going to do it?

They will do the full London degree in the major and get an NCH diploma in the minor and some other NCH compulsory bits

[PatrickD]

I hadn't heard of this 'university' before stumbling upon this thread but everything about it just looks bizarre and ridiculous. £18,000 a year for a university that barely exists and doesn't really seem to be recognised (by UCAS, by critics etc.)?!

Mind you, it doesn't take up one of your five UCAS choices and all universities started somewhere, I suppose...?

[MWM]

(Original post by morecambebay)
How does the 'minor' thing work? On the London international program website there is no mention of it, so how are NCH students going to do it?

The work load they are putting on students is well over the top aswell. Taking philosophy as an example: the degree contains ten modules but NCH students have to do 11 + a dissertion (examined by who?) + 4 modules in a different subject + 3 core modules + professional skills. If all the modules are of equal size, It is two degrees worth of work.

This is spot on, they do a University of London degree via the international programme. They also sit 4 compulsory modules in a second subject out of the 4, these modules don't go towards a joint degree or anything, they go towards the NCH diploma. Further, modules are taken in logic and critical thinking, scientific literacy, applied ethics an professional skills. So the workload seems crazy, add to that the fact they say that every week you will get plenty of small group and one to one supervision.
But if it doesn't count as one of your UCAS choices, why not apply ? If you get a scholarship then you pay nothing! And if you get an exhibition then you pay £7200, which is lower than other uni's.

[nulli tertius]

(Original post by morecambebay)
How does the 'minor' thing work? On the London international program website there is no mention of it, so how are NCH students going to do it?

There is a three car collision coming.

If these postings are anything to go by, they are going to be wasting their time and resources interviewing lots of people who will only go there if they get a scholarship. But it is a commercial enterprise. At best only about 10% of places can be scholarship places.

Then look at the reason UCCA was invented in the first place. The same problem led to the creation of PCAS in the 1980s. Students were accepting offers from more than one institution. A university or poly didn't know how many students it had got until they enrolled. These organisations stopped multiple acceptances.

[MWM]

(Original post by nulli tertius)
There is a three car collision coming.

If these postings are anything to go by, they are going to be wasting their time and resources interviewing lots of people who will only go there if they get a scholarship. But it is a commercial enterprise. At best only about 10% of places can be scholarship places.

Then look at the reason UCCA was invented in the first place. The same problem led to the creation of PCAS in the 1980s. Students were accepting offers from more than one institution. A university or poly didn't know how many students it had got until they enrolled. These organisations stopped multiple acceptances.

They say that 20% off students will receive financial aid, either a scholarship or an exhibition.

[Historophilia]

(Original post by Computerised)
This is very true. If said rah was so thick that not even Eton could get him/her into Oxbridge/London then they can always pay their way into a made-up London college.

Tbh it is sad that they didn't see the opportunity to make another normal-fee addition to the London colleges. They could of bought up the Bedford square buildings, filled them with a college specialising in humanities (the humanities version of Imperial) and called it New College London (that's a nice name) which would give out the usual London degree (possibly moving onto it's own degree awarding powers if it builds its rep enough) Result, prestigious uni with a nice little campus and it would take the strain off the other colleges (which are heavily oversubscribed)

This would actually be a very good idea.

I'm not sure there is a University in the UK that is solely for the Humanties, why should the scientists get one and not us

[carnationlilyrose]

(Original post by PatrickD)
I hadn't heard of this 'university' before stumbling upon this thread but everything about it just looks bizarre and ridiculous. £18,000 a year for a university that barely exists and doesn't really seem to be recognised (by UCAS, by critics etc.)?!

Mind you, it doesn't take up one of your five UCAS choices and all universities started somewhere, I suppose...?

You remind me of the story of the Emperor's New Clothes.

[PatrickD]

(Original post by carnationlilyrose)
You remind me of the story of the Emperor's New Clothes.

I'm familiar with the story but I'm struggling to see why I remind you of it?

[carnationlilyrose]

(Original post by PatrickD)
I'm familiar with the story but I'm struggling to see why I remind you of it?

You're the boy who sees and says the thing that everyone else is avoiding saying.

[PatrickD]

(Original post by carnationlilyrose)
You're the boy who sees and says the thing that everyone else is avoiding saying.

That's a good thing, I hope...?

[carnationlilyrose]

(Original post by PatrickD)
That's a good thing, I hope...?

Well, I think so, and they certainly do in the story.