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Reply 80
Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple
Only because it out of their league. Feeble subjects for feeble minds. :colone:

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Reply 81
Original post by Computerised

Tbh it is sad that they didn't see the opportunity to make another normal-fee addition to the London colleges. They could of bought up the Bedford square buildings, filled them with a college specialising in humanities (the humanities version of Imperial) and called it New College London (that's a nice name) which would give out the usual London degree (possibly moving onto it's own degree awarding powers if it builds its rep enough) Result, prestigious uni with a nice little campus and it would take the strain off the other colleges (which are heavily oversubscribed)

They did think of it - it's called the London School of Economics and Political Science. Admittedly they don't do the arts, like Literature and stuff.
Original post by hobnob
Smoke, mirrors and a swishy hairstyle.:wink:

And those magic knickers disguising all the flabby bits.
Reply 83
Original post by carnationlilyrose
And those magic knickers disguising all the flabby bits.

Now that's an image that I really could have done without.:s-smilie:
Original post by hobnob
Now that's an image that I really could have done without.:s-smilie:

Yes. I may have gone too far...:redface:
Reply 85
Original post by rupertj
They did think of it - it's called the London School of Economics and Political Science. Admittedly they don't do the arts, like Literature and stuff.


If you're gonna make a point make sure it's a valid point.

I say: there should be a college that specialises in humanities

Smart guy (you) says: oh but the London school of economics specialises in humanities......................well a small part of the humanities


It's like me saying there needs to be a science university somewhere and you say "oh there is one...................but it only does medical science"

:facepalm2:
Reply 86
Original post by Computerised
If you're gonna make a point make sure it's a valid point.

I say: there should be a college that specialises in humanities

Smart guy (you) says: oh but the London school of economics specialises in humanities......................well a small part of the humanities


It's like me saying there needs to be a science university somewhere and you say "oh there is one...................but it only does medical science"

:facepalm2:


Please tell me what the humanities are. A comprehensive list please. Then compare them with the LSE 'index of courses' list. Taking into account joint courses, they cover most things. They lack Literature and Theology, but pretty much everything else is covered between LSE and SOAS, leaving very few humanities that the UoL hasn't provided specialist centres for, and I'm sure they have good reasons for that, related to funding, numbers, staffing or something else.
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Reply 87
Original post by rupertj
Please tell me what the humanities are. A comprehensive list please. Then compare them with the LSE 'index of courses' list. Taking into account joint courses, they cover most things. They lack Literature and Theology, but pretty much everything else is covered between LSE and SOAS, leaving very few humanities that the UoL hasn't provided specialist centres for, and I'm sure they have good reasons for that, related to funding, numbers, staffing or something else.


Alright you got me.

I'll be back...

Original post by carnationlilyrose
You're the boy who sees and says the thing that everyone else is avoiding saying.

Everyone else, that is, except lots of the posters on page one and two? :confused:
Original post by Craghyrax
Everyone else, that is, except lots of the posters on page one and two? :confused:

Well, yes, but a bit more bluntly and as he arrived mid discussion without really knowing much about the college, it seemed more like the story. I'm sorry I mentioned it now.
Fair enough :p:
Original post by rupertj
Please tell me what the humanities are. A comprehensive list please. Then compare them with the LSE 'index of courses' list. Taking into account joint courses, they cover most things. They lack Literature and Theology, but pretty much everything else is covered between LSE and SOAS, leaving very few humanities that the UoL hasn't provided specialist centres for, and I'm sure they have good reasons for that, related to funding, numbers, staffing or something else.


Literature/Art surely are cornerstones of the study of humanities? Literature not being offered is not '1 out of 100 courses', it's something like 25% of humanities I feel.

Furthermore, I find Philosophy offering at LSE highly lacking - mainly due to the fact they do not want to be particularly humanities-focused but more social sciences. They do have a Philosophy course but it is of limited breadth with heavy focus on science and links between philosophy and social sciences such as economics and politics.

I do really find the idea of a separate college for humanities refreshing in a time when everyone is going on about 'employability' and 'transferable skills' - and UoL, while indeed having a fair amount of humanities courses, is still lacking in two major areas.

The NCH project, however, does not appear too successful - I wish someone actually set up a LSE-equivalent with a humanities, as opposed to social sciences, focus.
Reply 92
Original post by logiadoevus
Literature/Art surely are cornerstones of the study of humanities? Literature not being offered is not '1 out of 100 courses', it's something like 25% of humanities I feel.

Furthermore, I find Philosophy offering at LSE highly lacking - mainly due to the fact they do not want to be particularly humanities-focused but more social sciences. They do have a Philosophy course but it is of limited breadth with heavy focus on science and links between philosophy and social sciences such as economics and politics.

I do really find the idea of a separate college for humanities refreshing in a time when everyone is going on about 'employability' and 'transferable skills' - and UoL, while indeed having a fair amount of humanities courses, is still lacking in two major areas.

The NCH project, however, does not appear too successful - I wish someone actually set up a LSE-equivalent with a humanities, as opposed to social sciences, focus.


I would agree that LSE and SOAS cannot be considered to represent all of the humanities, and obviously Literature and Art are major sections of this broad category of disciplines. But that wasn't really my point. I was responding to the notion that nobody in the Education Ministry or the University of London has thought this through over the years. There will be a host of reasons why it would be difficult to have an institution that represented every humanity and excelled in teaching and in researching virtually all of them. LSE and SOAS (and obviously UCL) together cover a lot of subjects and have a lot of students. Perhaps the costs of creating a new university of humanities would not justify the increase in places it would bring, and perhaps there aren't enough potential teaching staff in the UK that could provide it with that high reputation. Furthermore, universities in this country are state-run, and it's possible that expanding places at Oxbridge, Durham and elsewhere is on the Ministry's mind more than it is to create a new branch of UoL all together.

My point is that it's not like there aren't other solutions to the issue of the shortage of places at top universities in the humanities, nor have the people in power simply not noticed.
Original post by Aristotle's' Disciple
Only because it out of their league. Feeble subjects for feeble minds. :colone:


When did Economics become a feeble subject.
Original post by crazycake93
When did Economics become a feeble subject.


Only subject as hardcore as maths is theoretical physics, which is kinda like... maths. :colone:
I was given a NCH bookmark today and they're really pretty :biggrin:

Still won't be applying though.
In reference to the above posts - far as I'm aware the UCL English, History and Philosophy departments are some of the strongest and most competitive in the country - UoL is hardly lacking on the humanities front from that perspective, although I'll admit I don't know much about Theology offerings.

Anyway, 18K a year is absolutely extortionate for a university education, that's 6 times what I'm paying per year for mine which is, thus far, fantastic. If these academics really wanted to spread their knowledge and expertees they'd be far better off contributing their services to existing universities, and thus making them available to a wider audience. They are not going to get the top calibre of students, they are going to get the richest - I don't see how it is even remotely ethically viable that they are trying to engineer a 'British elite' made up almost entirely of the wealthiest in society, surely this is just taking 10 steps backwards? If they couldn't make it financially accessible, they shouldn't have done it in the first place. Students from wealthy backgrounds already get an undeniable leg-up in life, I don't see why anybody would want to make the situation worse.
Original post by rupertj
I would agree that LSE and SOAS cannot be considered to represent all of the humanities, and obviously Literature and Art are major sections of this broad category of disciplines. But that wasn't really my point. I was responding to the notion that nobody in the Education Ministry or the University of London has thought this through over the years. There will be a host of reasons why it would be difficult to have an institution that represented every humanity and excelled in teaching and in researching virtually all of them. LSE and SOAS (and obviously UCL) together cover a lot of subjects and have a lot of students. Perhaps the costs of creating a new university of humanities would not justify the increase in places it would bring, and perhaps there aren't enough potential teaching staff in the UK that could provide it with that high reputation. Furthermore, universities in this country are state-run, and it's possible that expanding places at Oxbridge, Durham and elsewhere is on the Ministry's mind more than it is to create a new branch of UoL all together.



The history of the UofL is of an examining university for a series of colleges (schools) established by a series of founders for different purposes. The traditional structure of the university has rather been lost in the last 20-30 years by a series of mergers/losses.

Imperial College has been lost. Wye College was merged into Imperial and closed. New College was closed. Bedford, Westfield, Queen Elizabeth, Chelsea and the School of Slavonic and East European Studies have all merged. The medical schools have all been reorganised.

The only gain during this period was the Catholic college, Heythrop.

Goldsmiths' College has retained its function as a specialist arts and social sciences college of the UofL
Reply 98
I applied for a full scholarship because the fees are so extortionate and I got an interview today :smile: Don't really know a great deal about the place, worries me that it's so new though.
Why not just go to UCL or Kings for a normal price?

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