TSR Muscle Building Society For Men V6!

Is this too much mayo for pitta bread and chicken?

They have said they used to workout when they were younger. So some of it will be muscle memory and all of that.

I still think their general advice is fine. At times they'll be quite black and white but it depends what video you watch. If you take it broadly they are recommending compound movements, body-splits, not to spend too long in the gym.

What's wrong with that?

Body split is probably better than fully body if you care about size only.

Hodge twins are alpha and really funny. Just because they advise certain things that aren't proven in a scientific study, doesn't mean that they don't give good advice. Different stuff works for different people and to be honest, they're likely more jacked than you so y'know...





I can taste aesthetics now, after my next bulk and cut I think I will start seeing a nice body.

I guess we should all follow Phil Heath blindly since he is more jacked than everyone being Mr Olympia.

Body split is probably better than fully body if you care about size only.

Full Body or Most of Body - "Training Lifts"
If at any stage of experience your goal is to add as much muscle as quickly as possible, the objectives you will stress will be raising your best compound lifts in some viable range - best set of 5, 8, or 10 maybe best 5x5, or 3x8 or whatever. That and the eating is the best way to add muscle and generate the adaptation you are seeking. And the organization for that? Well doing those lifts 1x per week and throwing in a bunch of garbage is a pretty crap way to get better at them. If you have any clue, you would not select some outrageous 5 day bodypart split with tons of exercises and train the lifts 1x per week. In this kind of training you focus on lifts, not bodyparts and generally it doesn't get more complicated than upper/lower. For the record, I don't believe in push/pull/legs because that's basically chest/back/legs and you are right at the cusp of a bodypart split - not that it may not be a good organization for a hybrid goal where pure muscle gain and refinement are equal, but merely that no one would really consider this optimal organization to get big lifts up fast.

Elaborate Splits - "Training Bodyparts"
Now what about if one is prioritizing refinement of one's physique over a period? Well, all compound lifts trained frequently are not going to leave much room for other work. You might get one or two things done but largely there's just no room and you won't accomplish your goal. So here the objectives determine that you need a lot of isolation exercise or different variants while maybe maintaining your core lifts or even just preventing serious detraining. This might be a lifter who perceives some imbalances or wants to work on this for a period after adding some muscle - or this might be a bodybuilder preparing for a contest. Obviously a more elaborate bodypart style breakdown falls logically out from the goal and objectives. This is the time to make such a choice and layout. It makes sense. It's a good choice.

CONCLUSION

So that's the jist and how I think it's best looked at. Your goal determines your objectives which determine your organization (split or full body or whatever). Your experience level determines how you go about achieving all of this and how you program it. They are separate. They are not mutually exclusive. This is a good way to think about it and use this logic to arrive at what you should be doing. It is very clear and will not steer you wrong

That wasn't my point and you know it wasn't. You seem very angry, why so angry? I even said, what's good for some people, isn't good for others.



And maybe you should follow Phil Heath if the current training regime is doing nothing for you

My point is that you shouldn't follow advice based on what someone looks like. Scientific proof should be considered because it is based on the general population and it has to go through a process of being verified. What works for some people may not work for others but there are things that are not up for debate and should therefore be followed by everyone.

Nearly every single professional bodybuilder uses some kind of body-part split.

What do you take from that? I take that for pure size it's probably the best way to go about it. It's not Phil Heath or Ronnie Coleman - it's pretty much ALL of them.

Also, can we not forget greats such as Ed Coan essentially did a body-part split? Or that Derek Poundstone uses something similar?

When I've talked about this people have said it's because they all juice and that somehow that makes it viable for them. I don't understand that argument though - all I can think is that your results won't be as good but it's all relative.

Bodybuilders who are on the pro level are more concerned with building up specific bodyparts which the split is the most effective at. Coan, Coleman and Cutler have testosterone that is several orders of magnitude higher than the general population and are blessed with amazing genetics. When you are in that state you don't have to play by the same rules as everyone else.

I have already stated that Ian's progress is good considering he started off as an anorexic who could barely bench press the bar. Having funny content as part of a video doesn't excuse bad advice. Someone could easily have made progress in spite of what they are doing rather than because of it.

Ian's advice is solid as it is based on facts. What he looks like or his progress is completely irrelevant. If someone told you to tuck your elbows slightly on the way down on the bench press it is good advice. It doesn't matter if the person can't bench the bar or bench presses 500lbs.