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The TNA Impact Wrestling thread
Ok, so far the scant TNA discussion hasn't required a TNA thread, but dangit TNA are so hard to ignore.
I remember when Hogan joined, I was trying to unconvince myself this was a complete setup to take out TNA.
But after their recent PPV, how much lower can it go?
A brief history:
2002 - 2009 - Jeff Jarratt and others create TNA. Jarratt then books himself as a champion for about 50 years straight.
2009(/2010?) - To try and break through the 1.1 ratings glass ceiling TNA had been hitting, a quick fix is brought in - Hogan, Bischoff, and a load of money. TNA is giving a brief taster run on a gameshow channel in the UK. One of the UK Impacts isn't shown, so they broadcast an Impact from a month ago. Thoroughly confusing.
2010 - TNA splash a reckless amount hiring former WWE stars and a few of Hogan's friends. This includes the likes of Scott Hall and Jeff Hardy, who were fired last time they were at TNA for no-showing PPVs, unprofessionalism, lateness etc.
Most of them pick up their pay checks and either leave or are released within a month or two. RVD is given the title straight away from TNA darling AJ Styles, during AJ's illogical heel run. AJ and co. become openly disillusioned, the fans become restless.
TNA also start the second Monday Night Wars with WWE. During the Road to WrestleMania. TNA get decimated in the ratings losing half of their viewers, and are forced to go back to Thursdays. Ouch.
2011 - TNA show on regular Freeview TV in the UK. A TNA PPV in the UK misses an entire match, despite not being live.
Heel Jeff Hardy surprises everyone by turning up for his PPV main event against a respected veteran. He does not surprise everyone, however, turning up under the influence of drugs. The match is forcibly ended unplanned by Sting in seconds. End PPV.
Rather than fire Jeff, he is taken off TV so he can go to court for possession of drugs with intent to supply. He would later return as... a face? O_o
TNA finally start using other arenas. rather than the one they have in a theme park that people can go to for free (creating quiet or dead crowds). However, they do this very rarely.
Because of this, TNA shamelessly and badly edit their crowds, dubbing in cheers, boos and chants to compensate for no-one giving a ****.
September 2011 - Jeff Hardy returns as a face, weeks after his brother is sacked for... being Matt Hardy. Jeff delivers an insincere 'apologetic' promo. There is only suggestion, and the suggestion is he is sorry for losing a match so quick, not unprofessionalism or drugs. Rather than say "all I can do is work hard for everyone and earn a shot", he states "all I can do is ask", then demanding "one more shot".
Many fans sympathise, believing he "deserves a second chance". Whether he deserves this now third or fourth chance, the fans don't say.
TNA have the PPV before their PPV-of-the-year (their 'WrestleMania' kinda). They effectively have 2 semi-finals to decide the #1 contender to their title. They have the heel win first for some reason, making the second semi-final an obvious face win. The winner of the 'final', to main event the biggest match of the year, wins to little reaction.
The main event title match is worse - it's not shown in the UK due to yet another technical hitch. Again, the PPV wasn't even being beamed live.
TNA also build up the main event by... having a heel female wrestler who just pissed off the fans shoot on 9/11 before going straight to video promo of main event? O_o
A main event that includes a face Kennedy, who only turned heel a few weeks ago to join the dastardly stable who'd been kicking his ass for months, whom he is now feuding with. Buh?
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So, how about that TNA, huh?Last edited by nonotrly; 17-10-2011 at 19:24. -
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Re: The TNA Impact threadWell, I believe today is the day of the TNA version of Wrestlemania, with Hogan going up against Sting.
Except it's not Hogan vs. Sting. It's an old man with a bad back who no-one cares about against a bad Joker impersonator with the physique of a cheesestring.
The old man is not the Hogan that people went ape**** for a decade and two ago, and that other guy is not Sting at all.
Hmm. Exciting?Last edited by nonotrly; 16-10-2011 at 23:29. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadWell, fair to say people are going bat**** right now.
I have to say, I'm glad I'm not really following an industry where after every PPV of the Big Two... well, Big 1 and The Other 1... everyone is disappointed and complaining.
The industry's in a state eh?
One company's being written by Vince "If we do something stupid, it'll be something the fans won't expect, so it'll be good!" Russo.
The other by Vince McMahon, whose finger has gradually been moving farther from the pulse for several years now. And when he's gone, Triple H and Steph will be in charge, meaning bodybuilder wrestlers and HHH tv time galore. Fun times.Last edited by nonotrly; 17-10-2011 at 04:36. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadIf you genuinely believe that Vince contributes much to the structure of the WWE then you've lost it. He's another actor who happened to have been here from the start. Sure he may have been heavily involved at the start but nowadays his input is non-existent.(Original post by nonotrly)
Well, fair to say people are going bat**** right now.
I have to say, I'm glad I'm not really following an industry where after every PPV of the Big Two... well, Big 1 and The Other 1... everyone is disappointed and complaining.
The industry's in a state eh?
One company's being written by Vince "If we do something stupid, it'll be something the fans won't expect, so it'll be good!" Russo.
The other by Vince McMahon, whose finger has gradually been moving farther from the pulse for several years now. And when he's gone, Triple H and Steph will be in charge, meaning bodybuilder wrestlers and HHH tv time galore. Fun times. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadI'm mostly pleased with the results although I'm really disapointed that Bobby Roode was beaten by Kurt Angle.
However I am pleased that Crimson beat Samoa Joe and I'm also pleased that Sting beat Hogan. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling thread
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Evidence?(Original post by BieberFan)
If you genuinely believe that Vince contributes much to the structure of the WWE then you've lost it. He's another actor who happened to have been here from the start. Sure he may have been heavily involved at the start but nowadays his input is non-existent.Last edited by nonotrly; 17-10-2011 at 19:24. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadWe should start a TNA society(Original post by nonotrly)
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling thread*SPOILERS FOR UK TV VIEWERS*
Spoiler:ShowMoral of the story (after this week's PPV and following Impact):
If you must watch TNA, don't bother buying PPVs, just watch the free impact TV show for historical moments and world title changes.
Makes sense, TNA.Last edited by nonotrly; 21-10-2011 at 17:04. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadI watch TNA on Challenge tv. They still haven't caught up though even though "Bound for Glory" was last Sunday. Maybe this Sunday they will catch up.(Original post by nonotrly)
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Morale of the story (after this week's PPV and following Impact):
If you must watch TNA, don't bother buying PPVs, just watch the free impact TV show for historical moments and world title changes.
Makes sense, TNA.
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Spoiler:ShowI'm glad Kurt Angle finally lost his world heavyweight title, it's just a shame it wasn't Bobby Roode who took it from him. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadI forgot about spoiler tags, just edited my post with spoilers. You can edit your post too since you quoted me if you want.(Original post by thunder_chunky)
I watch TNA on Challenge tv. They still haven't caught up though even though "Bound for Glory" was last Sunday. Maybe this Sunday they will catch up.
Spoiler alert!:
Spoiler:ShowI'm glad Kurt Angle finally lost his world heavyweight title, it's just a shame it wasn't Bobby Roode who took it from him.
I tried TNA for a few weeks, but at some point I realised no-one was actually wrestling. It was mainly LOTS of talking, the same freakin' promo/video every show (remember when Anderson won the title and Matt Morgan was involved, and they showed the same backstage promos ALLLLL the time?), unsubtle hints at swerves, and then a 10-15 minute (with ads) main event (usually ending in Immortal beating someone down, or someone making the save from the beatdown).
Then I realised I wasn't really watching it at all. I mean at first I'd be watching the show, but by the time they had the first proper match - the main event - I'd be zoned out from it. Usually I'm on the computer at the same time, so I'd miss all the moves, the moments, and maybe even miss the ending.
I guess it didn't grip me, in short. >_> -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadThey do a lot of talking that's for sure, but I record most if not all episodes and watch it later. That way I can skip through most of the talking. The actually wrestling is actually really good. And some of the wrestlers are really good. Some don't look that agile but in fact are (AJ Styles, Rob Van Dam.)(Original post by nonotrly)
I forgot about spoiler tags, just edited my post with spoilers. You can edit your post too since you quoted me if you want.
I tried TNA for a few weeks, but at some point I realised no-one was actually wrestling. It was mainly LOTS of talking, the same freakin' promo/video every show (remember when Anderson won the title and Matt Morgan was involved, and they showed the same backstage promos ALLLLL the time?), unsubtle hints at swerves, and then a 10-15 minute (with ads) main event (usually ending in Immortal beating someone down, or someone making the save from the beatdown).
Then I realised I wasn't really watching it at all. I mean at first I'd be watching the show, but by the time they had the first proper match - the main event - I'd be zoned out from it. Usually I'm on the computer at the same time, so I'd miss all the moves, the moments, and maybe even miss the ending.
I guess it didn't grip me, in short. >_>
Then there's "The Sting" whose definitley becoming one of my favourites.
I have freeview so that's the only channel that shows wrestling. I can get Sky sports which shows WWE, but I'd have to pay extra each month. I won't rule out the idae but right now I can't afford it.
On Challenge tv they do the main show every Sunday night which is 2 hours long, then on some weekdays they do TNA Explosion which is two matches and some inbetween bits. Not quite as good. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadYah, I remember a few years ago, WWE was stale and TNA had the better wrestlers. That was the general opinion anyway. Still have very good wrestlers, and I never thought I would've seen Matt Morgan as a viable world champ, but the way they do business is unsettling. The only thing going for them in that respect, for me anyway, is that no-one's died yet, while WWE gets all the bad rep for deaths.
Need to calm down and do storylines by the book sometimes, so that the surprises are actual nice surprises too.
I wonder how it'll all be in 10 years. It must be worrying that TNA's best ever Impact rating isn't even as good as Raw's worst ever (I think TNA's best is 1.5 but Raw's worst is 1.7). -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadI watched last night's TNA weekly show.
It's a two hour round up of the action and it showed how the Cowboy James Storm won the heavyweight championship title.
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Kurt Angle beat him into a corner, then turned around to push the referee and gloat to the crowd. When he turned around Storm had gotten up and did a kick to Angle's face, knocking him down. Storm pinned him and got the three count.
It was short, but a great match. And the way Bobby Roode came out and congratulated him, and AJ Styles was just brilliant. Well deserved. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadWell sometimes it doesn't work out how you expect it to so it's not entirely scripted...at least I don't think so..(Original post by nonotrly)
Yah, I remember a few years ago, WWE was stale and TNA had the better wrestlers. That was the general opinion anyway. Still have very good wrestlers, and I never thought I would've seen Matt Morgan as a viable world champ, but the way they do business is unsettling. The only thing going for them in that respect, for me anyway, is that no-one's died yet, while WWE gets all the bad rep for deaths.
Need to calm down and do storylines by the book sometimes, so that the surprises are actual nice surprises too.
Hmm I'm not so sure about that. What are you basing that on? TNA has Kurt Angle, Hulk Hogan, Sting, AJ Styles, Rob Van Dam. Some really good wrestlers.I wonder how it'll all be in 10 years. It must be worrying that TNA's best ever Impact rating isn't even as good as Raw's worst ever (I think TNA's best is 1.5 but Raw's worst is 1.7). -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadWell it must be worrying if after all that money and fanfare, they're still nowhere near Raw's worst. Especially if they're teaching their fans not to buy PPVs, because title changes and historic moments tend to happen on free TV now. And this is while their PPV buyrates vary greatly around 15,000, which is about 1/10th what they should be getting just as something to build from.(Original post by thunder_chunky)
Hmm I'm not so sure about that. What are you basing that on? TNA has Kurt Angle, Hulk Hogan, Sting, AJ Styles, Rob Van Dam. Some really good wrestlers.
As for those wrestlers, will TNA have that calibre in 2020? Will they have the money? How long can they keep RVD for, who had retired and said it would require a ridiculous amount of diva money to get him back in the ring, then signed by TNA later on?Last edited by nonotrly; 24-10-2011 at 18:49. -
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Re: The TNA Impact Wrestling threadI saw this thread, then saw who had started it and thought this is just going to be one massive "TNA is awful" thread. I was right.
"TNA is awful" is a sentiment that I wholeheartedly agree with but I will give them credit for a great PPV a few months ago when they had Destination X. Probably better than any WWE PPV this year and it showed the company should be going in the same direction as it was a few years ago when it was all about the X Division.
