Should the Govt cut the tap to the poor?
I can't stand the sense of entitlement with which people are imbued in this country. I believe that this stems from a sense of bailout mania. Instead of feeding the five thousand, Jesus should have said, 'get your own ****ing refreshment'.
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
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Original post by Otkem
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. ?
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. ?
Well i'd be willing to know what fantasy land you live in where this bull**** is true.
wow. nice that you have faith that they'll 'magically' provide for themselves. I mean, that is all they need after all, your faith. :s
Then we'll stop working for the rich.
mmm....would you stop me from working hard to gain a good education just because i couldnt afford it immediately and end up being on the dole or in a job which hardly adds to the economy? Also would you include people that have temporarily lost their jobs? Or the disabled and ill?
Given that our working lives span 50 odd years, would you determine the outcome of my life on my background alone? Because if you did i wouldnt have bothered working as hard
Given that our working lives span 50 odd years, would you determine the outcome of my life on my background alone? Because if you did i wouldnt have bothered working as hard
Original post by Otkem
I can't stand the sense of entitlement with which people are imbued in this country. I believe that this stems from a sense of bailout mania. Instead of feeding the five thousand, Jesus should have said, 'get your own ****ing refreshment'.
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
What cloud frakking cuckoo land spat you out?
Original post by Otkem
I believe that this stems from a sense of bailout mania
So the Welfare State only came into existance after the recent spate of bank bailouts?
I see.
Original post by Otkem
I can't stand the sense of entitlement with which people are imbued in this country. I believe that this stems from a sense of bailout mania. Instead of feeding the five thousand, Jesus should have said, 'get your own ****ing refreshment'.
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
i agree to some extent however not everyone will survive.
instead the government should pay the unemployed only if they work like clean the streets etc- no one should be given money for free
Its obviously a troll, I would've thought the 'magically' part would have given it away.
Original post by Otkem
I can't stand the sense of entitlement with which people are imbued in this country. I believe that this stems from a sense of bailout mania. Instead of feeding the five thousand, Jesus should have said, 'get your own ****ing refreshment'.
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
Hmm.
Prostitution, selling posessions, hair or bodily parts.
I wonder which one'd be less tricky...
There are too many people who abuse the benefit system, however it has it's purpose, for example for graduates who have dozens of applications per position, or victims of the recession who'd worked all their days. These people deserve the safety net.
If it wasn't there then you cold have extreme poverty in the UK. Take my good friend, for example. Both her parents lost their long term jobs in November 2010. Now, they were on quite low incomes to start with so had no savings, but they managed to make ends meet. After being made redundant they NEEDED to sign on for a few months to afford to feed what is a very large family(6 dependent children) however both have now found new employment and are off state benefits.
I don't see how anybody could grudge them that money.
If it wasn't there then you cold have extreme poverty in the UK. Take my good friend, for example. Both her parents lost their long term jobs in November 2010. Now, they were on quite low incomes to start with so had no savings, but they managed to make ends meet. After being made redundant they NEEDED to sign on for a few months to afford to feed what is a very large family(6 dependent children) however both have now found new employment and are off state benefits.
I don't see how anybody could grudge them that money.
Original post by Otkem
I can't stand the sense of entitlement with which people are imbued in this country. I believe that this stems from a sense of bailout mania. Instead of feeding the five thousand, Jesus should have said, 'get your own ****ing refreshment'.
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
Yes. They can eat roots and tree bark and drink nettle tea.
Original post by Otkem
I can't stand the sense of entitlement with which people are imbued in this country. I believe that this stems from a sense of bailout mania. Instead of feeding the five thousand, Jesus should have said, 'get your own ****ing refreshment'.
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
If people are left to their own devices, they will magically find ways of providing for themselves. Should the Govt become firmer in saying no to the poor in order to give them the motivation to provide for themselves?
Don't get down. TSR is full of self- hating liberal apologists. Of course, you are totally correct. People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and stop feeling so entitled.
Original post by Aequat omnes cinis
Don't get down. TSR is full of self- hating liberal apologists. Of course, you are totally correct. People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and stop feeling so entitled.
Oh look the typical 'herp de derp someone has a normal view so they must be liberals!'
Got anything intelligent to add as to how the country should be run?
Remember to make sure it does not conflict with any laws or the EU.
I expect a full analysis of the social and dammgaal benefits as well is problems, which must take several socio-economical problems in to account as well as political reasons. Thanks.
I much as I like free market bitchery, do you really want to experience the sort of looting and possibly revolution such a thing would lead to?
Original post by Tommyjw
Oh look the typical 'herp de derp someone has a normal view so they must be liberals!'
Got anything intelligent to add as to how the country should be run?
Remember to make sure it does not conflict with any laws or the EU.
I expect a full analysis of the social and dammgaal benefits as well is problems, which must take several socio-economical problems in to account as well as political reasons. Thanks.
Got anything intelligent to add as to how the country should be run?
Remember to make sure it does not conflict with any laws or the EU.
I expect a full analysis of the social and dammgaal benefits as well is problems, which must take several socio-economical problems in to account as well as political reasons. Thanks.
Obviously the post is sensationalist but i agree with the gist of it.
For example why not get people on JSA to work for it. So if they get paid for example (I don't know how much it actually is ) £80 a week then they would do 13 hours give or take a week ( 8£0/minimum wage (roughly £6) ).
Original post by Tommyjw
Oh look the typical 'herp de derp someone has a normal view so they must be liberals!'
Got anything intelligent to add as to how the country should be run?
Remember to make sure it does not conflict with any laws or the EU.
I expect a full analysis of the social and dammgaal benefits as well is problems, which must take several socio-economical problems in to account as well as political reasons. Thanks.
Got anything intelligent to add as to how the country should be run?
Remember to make sure it does not conflict with any laws or the EU.
I expect a full analysis of the social and dammgaal benefits as well is problems, which must take several socio-economical problems in to account as well as political reasons. Thanks.
You're one to bloody talk; you're both a liberal and a socialist.
I hate socialism, I really do.
Original post by kayjay
Obviously the post is sensationalist but i agree with the gist of it.
For example why not get people on JSA to work for it. So if they get paid for example (I don't know how much it actually is ) £80 a week then they would do 13 hours give or take a week ( 8£0/minimum wage (roughly £6) ).
For example why not get people on JSA to work for it. So if they get paid for example (I don't know how much it actually is ) £80 a week then they would do 13 hours give or take a week ( 8£0/minimum wage (roughly £6) ).
What?......
So to get JOB SEEKERS allowance, a person has to WORK?..
Job seekers is one of the vital parts of our welfare state. The trouble with providing jobs in such an economical environment especially in certain obvious places means we shouldn't punish people looking for jobs.
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