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"Even fat guys in America get laid. Not in Britain."

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Original post by Bakerzoid
Let me just stop you there, I always go out and socialise with people but still occasionally go on TSR. Just now I went ballroom dancing, the night before I went out with some friends for one of my friends birthdays and tomorrow I'll probably be going out to my SU with some friends too. I approach women regularly because I am so fed up of being single, no interest is shown/reciproacted from these women and I've tried approaching in a variety of situations and a variety of different women.

Just before anybody asks, though it is unlikely that they will, I am 5'8'' tall white male, attending The University of Warwick and from a working class background. Whenever I go out I always make sure that I have a positive, hopeful outlook, otherwise I stay in.

Sure as hell agree with what I have bolded in your post, but there is nothing I can do with my life except remain single and miserable throughout my time at university or throw myself under a train, which I so sincerely want to fecking do right now. Thanks for reading.


Original post by DarkSenrine
No I boldened the part on the previous quotation that didn't make sense - the part about the height.

Sure it's miserable, but one thing you have to understand is that there are so many more interesting things in life than sex.


Is it really worth getting cut up about it at this stage?



I agree with Bakerzoid 100%, i feel his pain.

I am 22 next month and have had nothing of a sexual nature, no relationships or i suppose barely even a kiss since i was 17.
I have no idea why this has happened but there you go, i go out to the clubs with mates, to birthdays, been introduced to girls by my mates...but guess what?...every single one of them sees me as a friend only...i think the fact the fact of me being sexual with them probably repulses them in their mind.

I have been rejected a lot of times, been stood up at train stations (by girls who to be honest arent anything to shout about looks wise...guess it's this princess syndrome girls have here)

Basically i do what my mates do, sometimes i even find myself imitating their behaviour when they are successful in getting girls..i may repeat what the do, but all i will get is a dirty look, called a "freak" or a "weirdo"...and i dont get it..my mates could do it, why can't i?

I wear glasses if that means anything, i used to think it was half the problem but to be honest i really don't know.

The fact of the matter is i'm not getting anything from women at all...at 22 you are in your peak as a male..you should be having sex now!

Maybe women do just have a dislike to me for some reason as i am just seen as a mate 100% of the time even from new women i meet..and i dont get what im doing wrong..nothing in my eyes..i guess im just forever alone and undesirable.

Oh and the bit i bolded....yeah sex i suppose isnt a big deal when you know you can get it whenever you want or have a girlfriend....but for someone like me, there is no chance of it!
Girls can pick a random boy in their phone book, ring him and ask for sex and 99% of the time he will be around there sharpish!
I do the same and i would get told to **** off, hung up on or anything inbetween....double standards.

The girls in this country suffer from princess syndrome, they expect a man to be perfect..good looks, money..whatever!
The funny thing is uglier guys than me have gotten chicks!...i just dont understand it...girls must just hate me...no idea why as im not quasimodo! i'm not amazing looking but i wouldnt say im very ugly either!

Oh and one more thing, i rang a girl up who i am quite close with..or so i thought, she has been a bit silent lately which isnt like her at all...anyway basically was on phone to her and i said something a bit jokey like "come here and jump on me!"

She replied with "that's disgusting"...i say "how is it?" and she says "well im an honest person, i say what i think"

Really irritated me i swear to god, also when i mention sexual things to girls like on facebook they always say "lol" as if im a joke or something...i'm not joking!

I don't know what to do...funny thing is with a group of canadian girls i met in London one day...wanna hear something funny!?...most of them fancied me! haha but as my luck goes they were just visiting!...just my luck eh? sods law strikes me in the face yet again!...all the girls that have ever liked me live like 1000s of miles away!

But it goes to show, girls in this country have entitlement issues that need to be addressed.
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stop blaming your inability to get laid on your surroundings and circumstances

one week on here theres threads about british girls being easy and sluts and now we aren't liberal enough? make your minds up!
Original post by sweeter than a cherry pie
You're a childish muppet. Sex isn't something anyone should "expect," as you suggest at the end of your first post, and it's guys who feel it is their right to have sex that are most likely to turn into rapists - can you not see how daft you are to say that?

"It is disappointing to see guys go without any [sex] at uni" - for goodness' sake, it's not something guys are entitled to, and if you're at uni for sex then you are there for the wrong reasons. Maybe you're thinking of a brothel.

Why should girls have to have sex with guys they find unattractive to appease you and your immature mindset? If guys want sex so much they can have it with each other.


I agree. OP I know loads of girls that have casual sex. Heck I had too. Girls are still have double standards applied to them. If we have casual sex = we are "sluts". If we do not have sex with every guy that asks us = we are frigid and uptight. Girls can't win. We do have casual sex but selective who we have it with and do not make a huge deal out of it.
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Original post by Movember
for girls, does having sex = having no self respect? last time i checked, girls should enjoy sex as much as guys.

sex is a basic human need like i say. having a job to earn a living is a basic human need, so does this mean if industries have higher standards and loads of people are unemployed, it's good for the economy? it screws up society. if more people were getting enough sex, people become happier and less depressed.

british girls need to lighten up and become more relaxed. it is a sad state of affairs if british girls need to drink huge amounts of alcohol to release some of their sexual desires, when american and continental european girls are sexually liberal without it.


What at disgusting attitude.

So the many unnatractive, boring men who may not wash/ may have unpleasant personalities (etc...,), should blame the fact that no-one wants to have sex with them on women? Why would women want to have sex with them? and by saying this, I am not claiming that men who are nice/attractive etc should expect sex either - it is not a service on tap, that is available from women and something you can demand from them when you feel like it.

I'm sorry, women do not owe you sex. And it is not a "basic human need" either - you can live (and enjoy) life without it. the human race will continue because a certain proportion of the world's population will always be procreating, but it is not a necessity that every individual is having sex.

And it is not a case of women 'lightening up to free their sexual desire' - if a woman doesn't want to have sex with you, it's because she does not want you. Why do you think it is not only reasonable, but right, to expect women to perform such an intimate activity with just anyone?

Women do not exist to please you.
Original post by Movember
i don't think your female friends regularly engage in casual sex whenever they feel like it, approaching guys when sober to ask them to have sex. somehow i don't think your female friends do that.


Why would they want to? Men like you need to recognise that a casual **** with a stranger or acquaintance is not an attractive prospect for any woman. It's not the case that women are repressing such a desire, they just do not have it. Men also need to realise that women don't enjoy or invite propositions on the street / in the supermarket etc when they are trying to get on with their daily business.
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Original post by hannah234
Why would they want to? Men like you need to recognise that a casual **** with a stranger or acquaintance is not an attractive prospect for any woman. It's not the case that women are repressing such a desire, they just do not have it. Men also need to realise that women don't enjoy or invite propositions on the street / in the supermarket etc when they are trying to get on with their daily business.


So if a guy of your dreams meets you in a supermarket and compliments you on your shoes and asks for your number, you'd tell him to get lost because you are more interested in buying your weightwatchers chrisps?
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I'm sure you'll find the right woman someday... but it isn't easy. :/
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Original post by No Future
Why is rape the fault of the victim? That makes no sense.

That isn't what he was suggesting.

Quite often, a woman will consent to sex at the time, then have regrets afterwards and falsely claim that she was raped, just to make her feel better about herself.

This is pretty much what has happened to Julian Assange.

We need to cut the moral panic over rape (fuelled by right-wing feminist newspapers like the Daily Mail) and grant anonymity to men who have been accused of rape until it is actualy proved.
Original post by hannah234
Why would they want to? Men like you need to recognise that a casual **** with a stranger or acquaintance is not an attractive prospect for any woman. It's not the case that women are repressing such a desire, they just do not have it. Men also need to realise that women don't enjoy or invite propositions on the street / in the supermarket etc when they are trying to get on with their daily business.


I agree with most of what you say. But going on to say "Guys, don't ever interact or approach women, we don't like it" is ****ing appalling. When exactly would you like us to give you a proposition? In class? "Nope, we're trying to get on with work". At a party? "We're just here to dance with our girlfriends".

I've never met a girl who would say "Oh, I hope I don't get swept off my feet this morning". Granted a meeting in the milk and dairy isle of Aldi isn't exactly fairytale, but stop putting up barriers between the sexes, just because of your own prejudice that all men are out for cheap ****s.
Reply 51
Not remotely surprised that this thread is now full of sweeping statements being made about gender differences.. And that no analysis is being made of why the poster making those statements is actually incapable of pulling.

Hint: if the entire population of one gender doesn't like you, it's most probable that you are doing something wrong.


Original post by ms1024
We need to cut the moral panic over rape (fuelled by right-wing feminist newspapers like the Daily Mail) and grant anonymity to men who have been accused of rape until it is actualy proved.


Daily Mail, feminist? Hahahaha. Wow.. Ok.

Can't be bothered to respond to any of your other points after that, as there is no way you can be serious.
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Original post by alawhisp


Daily Mail, feminist? Hahahaha. Wow.. Ok.



From the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article on the Daily Mail:

It was, from the outset, a newspaper for women, being the first to provide features especially for them, and is still the only British newspaper whose readership is more than 50% female


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
So wait - this thread is about how women in the UK arent easy and yet we have other threads about how UK women are easy compared to the rest of the world.

bleeding heck TSR
Reply 54
Original post by ms1024
From the first paragraph of the Wikipedia article on the Daily Mail:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Mail


Having a high female readership does not make it feminist. It is one of the worst newspapers for peddling rubbish about women that do not fit the mould they want them to (for clarity, they think all women should be the doting housewife). If you are a woman interested in having a career, or a lesbian, or a woman who doesn't want kids, etc. etc.. Yeah, you're not going to enjoy reading the Daily Mail. It is not a feminist newspaper.
Reply 55
Someone's not getting any it seems..
Reply 56
Original post by alawhisp
Having a high female readership does not make it feminist. It is one of the worst newspapers for peddling rubbish about women that do not fit the mould they want them to (for clarity, they think all women should be the doting housewife). If you are a woman interested in having a career, or a lesbian, or a woman who doesn't want kids, etc. etc.. Yeah, you're not going to enjoy reading the Daily Mail. It is not a feminist newspaper.


It is right-wing, conservative feminism, but feminism none the less.

Just remember during the Brand / Ross affair in 2008, the Daily Mail wanted their heads on a stick. Never was there any criticism of the girl who couldn't keep her legs together, or how she shamelessly profited from exclusive interviews, all in a bid for 'privacy' :rolleyes:

The DM took a similar stance more recently when anonymity for men accused of rape was suggested.
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Original post by ms1024
It is right-wing, conservative feminism, but feminism none the less.

Just remember during the Brand / Ross affair in 2008, the Daily Mail wanted their heads on a stick. Never was there any criticism of the girl who couldn't keep her legs together, or how she shamelessly profited from exclusive interviews, all in a bid for 'privacy' :rolleyes:

The DM took a similar stance more recently when anonymity for men accused of rape was suggested.


Their attitude to the Brand/Ross affair was because the newspaper hates Ross and has done for years - they took it and ran with it. You only have to look at their recent reporting on the Giggs saga (no mention anymore of his wrongdoing, it's all the fault of those tarty wimmin seducing the poor lad) and at the headlines they have for their various woman-hating articles (how being a career woman destroys marriage, how a woman has terrible cellulite, and how another shouldn't be wearing a burka, as three random examples).

Feminism is supposed to be about equality for women.. Yes I know that there are different forms and stances of feminism, but I'm not going to agree with you that a newspaper which only focuses and comments on how every woman should be a housewife is feminist.

This thread isn't for a discussion of the Daily Mail, though, so let's leave it at that, no more derailing please :smile:
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