[Hatterfan]

Hey,

Sorry, I'm not entirely sure what you mean with regard to student recruitment but I'll answer something vague.

We do have various guest people coming in to do lectures on their industries as well as companies coming on to campus such as Deloitte, KPMG etc. Furthermore, the newly formed Business Society (going into its second year in September) are looking to bring more companies in for both Business and Accounting students to give people further opportunities for prospective careers.

A further opportunity comes through our lecturers. In light of recent 'bad' results in the National Student Survey, the Business School are trying to improve the teachers teaching on the Undergraduate program (previously forgotten in favour of the MBAs). As a result, this year we have been taught by more senior lecturers which hold higher contacts within their fields.

For example, in our e-marketing module - we did an assignment based on a real-world research project for an organization. As a result of our presentations, the two highest groups were invited to an internship during the holidays to further the companies work on social media. Similarly, our Advanced Finance lecturer also currently works in investment banking and invited students to apply for several internships and other opportunities throughout the year.

I think this also sort of answers the question about rewards to some extent - urm, but there are not really any rewards specific to the School etc. However, one of the girls from my year (currently year in industry working for Google, so will be a final year in September), recently won the Business Undergraduate of the Year award for the entire Nation.

Anything else, give me a shout here or PM?

Hatterfan.

[Hatterfan]

And a further point, which sort of supports some of my points on other discussions - you have to go and find the opportunities.

I mean, there are probably lots more opportunities available that I don't know about - simply because I'm not actually looking for a career in Business / Marketing / Finance etc. As such, I don't read notices about events etc, nor do I actively seek them out.

University doesn't give you anything for free - you have to go out and find it!

[starburst92]

Firmed Birmingham to do Accounting and Finance! Excited Now just getting the AAB :/

[josh_v]

(Original post by starburst92)
Firmed Birmingham to do Accounting and Finance! Excited Now just getting the AAB :/

Good luck!

I do some accounting/finance modules so any questions feel free to ask!

[famt90]

Username : famt90
Course : construction management

[arty]

(Original post by mf16)
Just firmed Birmingham for Hispanic Studies. Super excited, loved the university, so gorgeous, fabulous modern accommodation and a seriously strong course too. Very happy

Hey! I'm thinking of applying to this course for 2013 - just wondered if you don't mind my asking what your predicted grades are?

[arty]

(Original post by starxriddled)
Finally got my offer for English Literature and Hispanic Studies, I am very excited girl at the moment!

Hey! I'm going to apply to this course for 2013. Just wondered if you don't mind me asking what your grades are? Also did you do a foreign language at A level?

[starxriddled]

(Original post by arty)
Hey! I'm going to apply to this course for 2013. Just wondered if you don't mind me asking what your grades are? Also did you do a foreign language at A level?

Good luck! At AS I got BBCC... Which should have been a bit of an issue, I'm not sure why it wasn't. This year I'm predicted AABB, which includes English Lit and Spanish

However, I did reject Birmingham, due to their year abroad opportunities...

[emilym94]

Just firmed Bham for Physiotherapy

[ohio12]

Anyone doing international relations with economics?

[Txi]

Let's put it this way - A boy scout with all his little badges of ' merit ' will hardly criticise his own organisation, though he is not an employee in the official sense.

In fact there's no doubt that he would be a leading cheerleader and cannot be said to give an unbiased opinion.

I on the other hand have never claimed my views are anything but my opinion with all the pros and cons that comes with.

However everyone should conduct their own research.

Nonetheless, the statistics seem to back me up on this.

The student satisfaction stats are based upon one of the most detailed on going surveys of student opinion around: the NSS.

100's of thousands, perhaps even a million students have partaken in over 1 decade, and the survey itself is detailed and focuses on course related issues - " How do you find the teaching? is the feedback good? are you satisfied with the course structure ? and so on ".

Nothing on it is about " happiness " per se, it is all course focused. Of course everyone on TSR knows this as most of us have taken the survey probably more than once, so let certain parties stop faking it.

Also, in light of this and the extortionate fees, is it any surprise that student rating numbers will go down if the service is crap ?

Does anyone not take back shoddy goods for a refund and complain too ? Damn right they do.

[uob]

(Original post by Txi)
Let's put it this way - A boy scout with all his little badges of ' merit ' will hardly criticise his own organisation, though he is not an employee in the official sense.

In fact there's no doubt that he would be a leading cheerleader and cannot be said to give an unbiased opinion.

I on the other hand have never claimed my views are anything but my opinion with all the pros and cons that comes with.

However everyone should conduct their own research.

Nonetheless, the statistics seem to back me up on this.

The student satisfaction stats are based upon one of the most detailed on going surveys of student opinion around: the NSS.

100's of thousands, perhaps even a million students have partaken in over 1 decade, and the survey itself is detailed and focuses on course related issues - " How do you find the teaching? is the feedback good? are you satisfied with the course structure ? and so on ".

Nothing on it is about " happiness " per se, it is all course focused. Of course everyone on TSR knows this as most of us have taken the survey probably more than once, so let certain parties stop faking it.

Also, in light of this and the extortionate fees, is it any surprise that student rating numbers will go down if the service is crap ?

Does anyone not take back shoddy goods for a refund and complain too ? Damn right they do.

TL;DR.

If we're talking about surveys and stuff, Birmingham came 13th in the Times Higher Education Student Experience survey which covers a range of criteria: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.u...nce_Survey.pdf

[Txi]

Someone is definitely confused.

The THESSE is a survey based on student experience.

Whereas the NSS is purely on course related matters.

I suggest that Bham does not throw stones when it lives in a glass house.

Let's have a look at what happens when we base the Complete guide on course satisfaction only, which is taken from the NSS.


http://www.thecompleteuniversityguid...o=Satisfaction


Only 3 bars ?

and Where's Bham ? 80'ish ? 100 ?


Would you guys like to see the scores for A + F and economics ?

No I didn't think so, it ain't pretty .

[uob]

(Original post by Txi)
Someone is definitely confused.

The THESSE is a survey based on student experience.

Whereas the NSS is purely on course related matters.

I suggest that Bham does not throw stones when it lives in a glass house.

Let's have a look at what happens when we base the Complete guide on course satisfaction only, which is taken from the NSS.


http://www.thecompleteuniversityguid...o=Satisfaction



Only 3 bars ?

and Where's Bham ? 80'ish ? 100 ?


Would you guys like to see the scores for A + F and economics ?

No I didn't think so, it ain't pretty .

I tire of your posts, but shall respond.

I'm not confused. I posted a link to the recent THESSE results. It happens to weight course related criteria highly, not that that was my point.

With regards to that student satisfaction thing, you're trying to compare bars?!
I don't want to stoop to debating the bars, but if we're ignoring the inherent flaws of surveys when they have such small sample sizes compared to the student population, we must look at the difference in points if you want to compare between universities. Birmingham scored 3.9. They range from 3.7 to 4.2 (and Buckingham out there with 4.4). Considering it's some weight of all the responses that are out of 5, I'd say there really isn't much in it.

[Txi]

(Original post by uob)
I tire of your posts, but shall respond.

I'm not confused. I posted a link to the recent THESSE results. It happens to weight course related criteria highly, not that that was my point.

With regards to that student satisfaction thing, you're trying to compare bars?!
I don't want to stoop to debating the bars, but if we're ignoring the inherent flaws of surveys when they have such small sample sizes compared to the student population, we must look at the difference in points if you want to compare between universities. Birmingham scored 3.9. They range from 3.7 to 4.2 (and Buckingham out there with 4.4). Considering it's some weight of all the responses that are out of 5, I'd say there really isn't much in it.

" I'm not confused. I posted a link to the recent THESSE results. It happens to weight course related criteria highly, not that that was my point. "


Proof please ?


Bars, points = semantics : whatever way you cut it, Bham performs badly when compared to the rest, Bham is only 2 pips away from the bottom ( 3.7 ).


The student satisfaction stats are based upon one of the most detailed on going surveys of student opinion around: the NSS.

100's of thousands, perhaps even a million students have partaken in over 1 decade, and the survey itself is detailed and focuses on course related issues - " How do you find the teaching? is the feedback good? are you satisfied with the course structure ? and so on ".

Nothing on it is about " happiness " per se, it is all course focused. Of course everyone on TSR knows this as most of us have taken the survey probably more than once.

http://www.thecompleteuniversityguid...ue-tables/key/

[uob]

(Original post by Txi)
" I'm not confused. I posted a link to the recent THESSE results. It happens to weight course related criteria highly, not that that was my point. "


Proof please ?


Bars, points = semantics : whatever way you cut it, Bham performs badly when compared to the rest, Bham is only 2 pips away from the bottom ( 3.7 ).


The student satisfaction stats are based upon one of the most detailed on going surveys of student opinion around: the NSS.

100's of thousands, perhaps even a million students have partaken in over 1 decade, and the survey itself is detailed and focuses on course related issues - " How do you find the teaching? is the feedback good? are you satisfied with the course structure ? and so on ".

Nothing on it is about " happiness " per se, it is all course focused. Of course everyone on TSR knows this as most of us have taken the survey probably more than once.

http://www.thecompleteuniversityguid...ue-tables/key/

If you'd look at the survey, you'd simply see the course related criteria are present.

It's not significant to say that Birmingham is "2 pips away from the bottom" as it is only 3 pips away from the top (ignoring the outlier Buckingham) - making it average for course satisfaction.
Regardless, you can throw surveys around all you want. Rather than stating that "a million students" have done the survey over the years, provide some evidence where it says "X Birmingham students did the survey in Y year" if we are to make judgements on a surveys validity.
As shown by any survey, students are pretty satisfied at Birmingham on the whole spectrum of important factors, which is fantastic. You are in the minority where had a bad experience and now have an odd vendetta - boo.
Overall, this discussion about surveys is not important for students who have been accepting offers.

[Txi]

(Original post by uob)
If you'd look at the survey, you'd simply see the course related criteria are present.

It's not significant to say that Birmingham is "2 pips away from the bottom" as it is only 3 pips away from the top (ignoring the outlier Buckingham) - making it average for course satisfaction.
Regardless, you can throw surveys around all you want. Rather than stating that "a million students" have done the survey over the years, provide some evidence where it says "X Birmingham students did the survey in Y year" if we are to make judgements on a surveys validity.
As shown by any survey, students are pretty satisfied at Birmingham on the whole spectrum of important factors, which is fantastic. You are in the minority where had a bad experience and now have an odd vendetta - boo.
Overall, this discussion about surveys is not important for students who have been accepting offers.

Link for Thess as I have for NSS, put up or shut up.

Bottom line is: Look at the tables and Bham does badly, end of story.

Also the NSS is accepted by the CUG and others, which is looked at by all and sundry here and outside of TSR.

I think that's 100x more credible than some Bham representee trying to save face for them.

In any case all final year students are invited to take part and as it has been around for so long suffice to say yes probably a million or so students have taken part over that time.

http://www.thestudentsurvey.com/faqs/faqs_9.html

100 universities x 3000 fys x 10 years = 3Million.

That's more than a decent sample size.

What part of that don't you get ? then again you did Bham stats so only to be expected.

If you going to accuse me of having a ' grudge ', then you'd better start calling the other 10's of thousands the same thing who don't share your opinion.

Don't worry about who looks at what survey and what not - you just let the good people decide for themselves and please refrain from the relentless marketing hype.











http://www.thestudentsurvey.com/faqs/faqs_9.html

[Hooby]

(Original post by Txi)

Don't worry about who looks at what survey and what not - you just let the good people decide for themselves and please refrain from the relentless marketing hype.


http://www.thestudentsurvey.com/faqs/faqs_9.html

You say that you should let people like me decide for ourselves but you're constantly bad mouthing everything and not giving people a chance to see what the uni is really like. What you're saying isn't really helping anybody, so maybe you should take your own advice.

[uob]

(Original post by Txi)
Link for Thess as I have for NSS, put up or shut up.

Bottom line is: Look at the tables and Bham does badly, end of story.

Also the NSS is accepted by the CUG and others, which is looked at by all and sundry here and outside of TSR.

I think that's 100x more credible than some Bham representee trying to save face for them.

In any case all final year students are invited to take part and as it has been around for so long suffice to say yes probably a million or so students have taken part over that time.

http://www.thestudentsurvey.com/faqs/faqs_9.html

100 universities x 3000 fys x 10 years = 3Million.

That's more than a decent sample size.

What part of that don't you get ? then again you did Bham stats so only to be expected.

If you going to accuse me of having a ' grudge ', then you'd better start calling the other 10's of thousands the same thing who don't share your opinion.

Don't worry about who looks at what survey and what not - you just let the good people decide for themselves and please refrain from the relentless marketing hype.


http://www.thestudentsurvey.com/faqs/faqs_9.html

That's a fair sample size, although I doubt all students would have filled it out - why don't you stop trying to par the university by making immature comments about statistics, when I simply asked a genuine question about the size.
Obviously, I'm sure you agree, surveys aren't the best account overall.

I'm continually confused about your attitude to other people however. I'm not "some Bham representee trying to save face for them". I'm an actual student who has an opinion, and tries to put that across in an unbiased way to help potential students - this is not marketing.
It's obviously impossible for anyone to be entirely unbiased, so I'll point out the things that influence my responses. You seem adamant that your opinion represents some larger consensus among students, which I feel is untrue, hence my responses to the contrary.

[Duncan123]

Hey, is anyone going to do history here? I firmed it 2 days ago