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The capture and death of Col Gaddafi

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Original post by callum9999
What a weird thing to suddenly make you ashamed.

Though if you are such a military expert, why don't you devise a successful plan that will get broad international and local support and involve no direct fighting...


Where did I claim to be a military expert?


And it's called staying the **** out of Libya's issues.


Let the rebels sort it out.
He was dead whatever happened. There was just a lot of panic afterwards when the rebels found him, and no order or command.

If you read the news reports, it is very clear that the convoy he was travelling in was hit severly by a NATO air strike. That's how the rebels found him.

Is it a coincidence that NATO somehow managed to hit the exact convoy he was travelling in and "not know" that he was indside?.....
Original post by Caedus
Stand trial? Why? The murdering swine is clearly guilty.


For what it symbolises more than anything, the country is fresh, new and fair.


The man was given a fair trial rather than being dragged through the streets barbarically by a load of people pulling his hair and stamping on his head.
Original post by Agenda Suicide
For what it symbolises more than anything, the country is fresh, new and fair.


The man was given a fair trial rather than being dragged through the streets barbarically by a load of people pulling his hair and stamping on his head.


True, but I don't mind either.

That tyrant has been responsible for the murder and oppression of hundreds of thousands of people over the past 40 years in power. I doubt anybody has the slightest shred of sympathy.

And Libya doesn't even have a reliable, functional judicary system for anything as utopian as standing Gaddafi to trial, thanks to his own policies.
Original post by planetearth
True, but I don't mind either.

That tyrant has been responsible for the murder and oppression of hundreds of thousands of people over the past 40 years in power. I doubt anybody has the slightest shred of sympathy.

And Libya doesn't even have a reliable, functional judicary system for anything as utopian as standing Gaddafi to trial, thanks to his own policies.


And look at the people replacing him, hardly much better if they had a shot.

I understand where you're coming from but kicking, punching, shooting, grabbing, stamping on a defenceless wounded human begging for mercy no matter what they have done does not show you have overthrown a barbaric system, it just shows it now belongs to you.

I completely understand where you're coming from but you can't just go round like that.
Original post by Agenda Suicide
Where did I claim to be a military expert?


And it's called staying the **** out of Libya's issues.


Let the rebels sort it out.


Well you seem to be confident enough to be able to analyse the Libyan operation and a potential Zimbabwean operation? Or were you just talking rubbish?

They couldn't sort it out... There is no grounding in logic to "stay the ****" out of another countries issues, it's merely your opinion so you have no mandate to demand anything.
Summary execution! What a fantastic advert for what will soon be calling itself a civilised and democratic country, if it isn't already.

Praise be those rebels :facepalm2:
Original post by callum9999
Well you seem to be confident enough to be able to analyse the Libyan operation and a potential Zimbabwean operation? Or were you just talking rubbish?

They couldn't sort it out... There is no grounding in logic to "stay the ****" out of another countries issues, it's merely your opinion so you have no mandate to demand anything.



How about making sense?


What are you on about? You're telling me that it'd be much harder to do the same in Zimbabwe? It wouldn't.


And on that note neither do you, I never demanded anything either however.



Yawn. When you make sense I'll reply :smile:
Original post by Agenda Suicide
And look at the people replacing him, hardly much better if they had a shot.

I understand where you're coming from but kicking, punching, shooting, grabbing, stamping on a defenceless wounded human begging for mercy no matter what they have done does not show you have overthrown a barbaric system, it just shows it now belongs to you.

I completely understand where you're coming from but you can't just go round like that.


Obviously you can't go around doing that. Likewise I disagreed with Iraqs decision to execute Hussain (though to be honest, I reckon Gadaffi would have preferred to go as he did than go on trial and then be executed).

The people doing that to him aren't in any form of authority, and aren't "replacing him", so your point is moot.
Reply 189
And here we have it. Dead Gaddafi and the future leaders of Libya

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=26b_1319136067
Original post by callum9999
Obviously you can't go around doing that. Likewise I disagreed with Iraqs decision to execute Hussain (though to be honest, I reckon Gadaffi would have preferred to go as he did than go on trial and then be executed).

The people doing that to him aren't in any form of authority, and aren't "replacing him", so your point is moot.


See I think you're missing the point.

I'm fully aware those people in the videos aren't Libya's new leaders. I can't be bothered explaining to somebody who knows about as much on the issue as my cat.

Thanks for your time but I won't be replying anymore.
Reply 191
I'm glad it's all over, his family were horrible against their own people. Gadaffi was so inhumane, and im glad he's death. He deserves hell.
Original post by Agenda Suicide
How about making sense?


What are you on about? You're telling me that it'd be much harder to do the same in Zimbabwe? It wouldn't.


And on that note neither do you, I never demanded anything either however.



Yawn. When you make sense I'll reply :smile:


Point out the specific sentences that don't make sense...

Yes I'm telling you it would be harder to do the same in Zimbabwe. There is no organised rebellion that has seized part of the country or looks likely to. There is little/no support in the region for military intervention. I don't see how a series of airstrikes will result in liberation.
Reply 193
Original post by JOR2010
Exactly, it's not in our interest. I'm sick of democracies standing up for 'freedom', when in reality, the people going into power aren't exactly democratic.


Completely agree.

Personally, I think it's sad that a man is dead. No matter what he has done, he is still a man and deserves some respect. The fact that people can celebrate this concerns me deeply.
barely knew who he was when he was alive, don't care now that he's dead.
Reply 195
the thing isif he was captured and held he would most probably have his trial in libya its self, so the ending would be the same, he dies and he didnt die from gun shotwounds to say, he was executed tecnically, he was pulled out of the ditch allready riddled with holes but alive and shot pointblank in the temple. In short he was most lickly going to die anyway no matter what happend
Can't wait for his successor to be a dictator running a far inferior regime at least. But I've gotten tired of saying I told you so.
He was found in a sewage pipe... so appropriate
Reply 198
Having only skim-read the two links in the OP I still couldn't help note how the Mail, comparably, wrote the article in a very dehumanising way. Dictator or not, I thoroughly disliked the tone in which it was written, no need for it. Tell the facts, not the murder scene in a novel.

I highly doubt anyone of his stature would ever get apprehended and escorted to jail when found by the rebels he oppressed for years anyway. I agree he should've stood trial but the with hordes of rebel forces around him, that wasn't ever going to happen.
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Original post by Caedus
Stand trial? Why? The murdering swine is clearly guilty.


I strongly believe in following due process when it comes to the law. Justice must not just be exacted, it must be seen to be done as well. A summary execution of a man begging for his life, whilst perhaps understandable given the sentiment of the rebels, is not justice. Parties wishing to maintain a moral high ground must always try to show compassion to their enemies that they would not reciprocate.

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