Should England join the US and leave the EU?
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Should England join the US and leave the EU?The US and UK have far more in common than people realize; far more so than someone from texas and someone from the east coast anyway and defiantly more in common than uk and France for example. A lot of Americans wanna move to britain (me included) and I get the feeling a lot of Brits wanna move too. It would be a really great thing for both countries to have the stability of being part of the largest and best country in the world.
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?No, we really don't.(Original post by DYKWIA)
The US and UK have far more in common than people realize; far more so than someone from texas and someone from the east coast anyway and defiantly more in common than uk and France for example. A lot of Americans wanna move to britain (me included) and I get the feeling a lot of Brits wanna move too. It would be a really great thing for both countries to have the stability of being part of the largest and best country in the world.
A lot of people in the UK are horrified by the US. Particularly its deeply anti-Christian attitude of no universal health service, war-mongering and out of control capitalism.
I think you have to understand that one of the UKs largest parties wanted to nationalise all major industries until the 1990s (Labour). There is a completely different mentality here. I went to hospital after a cycling incident yesterday (head injury) did I worry about insurance? NO Did I have to worry about a bill I couldn't afford? NO!
American laws in the UK would cause a revolution.
If the USA and UK spoke different languages this idea would appear as absurd as unifying with Russia. There is no basis for any unification.Last edited by RyanT; 21-10-2011 at 15:45. -
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?This time it would be done properly. The uk would join the US, not rule it. It would have a big effect on elections, no doubt, but it would be democratic, not imperialistic.(Original post by ifstatement)
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?(Original post by DYKWIA)
The US and UK have far more in common than people realize; far more so than someone from texas and someone from the east coast anyway and defiantly more in common than uk and France for example. A lot of Americans wanna move to britain (me included) and I get the feeling a lot of Brits wanna move too. It would be a really great thing for both countries to have the stability of being part of the largest and best country in the world.
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?wanting to move abroad =/= wanting our country to become part of yours.The US and UK have far more in common than people realize; far more so than someone from texas and someone from the east coast anyway and defiantly more in common than uk and France for example. A lot of Americans wanna move to britain (me included) and I get the feeling a lot of Brits wanna move too. It would be a really great thing for both countries to have the stability of being part of the largest and best country in the world.
No ****ing way. Thankfully, it won't happen, as I doubt more than a truly miniscule percentage of people in our country would accept this. I don't know where you're getting your information from.
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?No, the UK would never give up the NHS and likewise the US government would never want to take on the responsibility of running and funding it. The Republicans and the Tea Party movement especially would throw their toys out of the pram over it. Just one of the many huge disagreements in policy.
There are many in the UK who distrust the US, and a significant number that outright despise it. The right for nationalistic reasons and the left because of what they perceive as US global imperialism and rampant capitalism. It would just never work if it went to referendum it would never pass. -
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?Becoming a state in America I guess might be feasible. I do not see any good reason to do that though.
I would rather have Whitehall over Washington.
People who say we would lose the NHS are wrong. If we really wanted the NHS we could finance it as a state. -
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?You don't seem to realize how much autonomy individual states get. Most governing is done by individual states, which is a good thing. You could keep many of your socialist policies and keep your gay marriage etc.(Original post by RyanT)
No, we really don't.
A lot of people in the UK are horrified by the US. Particularly its deeply anti-Christian attitude of no universal health service, war-mongering and out of control capitalism.
I think you have to understand that one of the UKs largest parties wanted to nationalise all major industries until the 1990s (Labour). There is a completely different mentality here. I went to hospital after a cycling incident yesterday (head injury) did I worry about insurance? NO Did I have to worry about a bill I couldn't afford? NO!
American laws in the UK would cause a revolution.
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?no.(Original post by DYKWIA)
The US and UK have far more in common than people realize; far more so than someone from texas and someone from the east coast anyway and defiantly more in common than uk and France for example. A lot of Americans wanna move to britain (me included) and I get the feeling a lot of Brits wanna move too. It would be a really great thing for both countries to have the stability of being part of the largest and best country in the world. -
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?Ye no don't wanna join Texas and the whole Bible belt area. Don't mind the Northeast though (or any other non-redneck area).
Tbh, there's no reason to have a union. We simply reform trade and immigration laws. Free trade and free migration between the US and England is all we need. Why some people don't want to have that is a mystery. -
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?Unify? no
Free trade with the USA? maybe.
Personally I think an "Anglosphere" of free trade, free movement of people, &c consisting of the USA, Canada, UK, Australia and New Zealand would be quite beneficial. More-so than the EU which which, due to the economic imbalance between the East and West, facilitates mass emigration from the East to the West resulting in a huge imbalance of labourers.
Also, if the USA and the UK joined it would most definitely NOT be the largest country in the world.Last edited by michaelhaych; 21-10-2011 at 16:05. -
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?Ha! Wouldn't be so sure. Couple of months media brainwashing and the 'GBP' are anyone's. Those of us who would reject it would be told to 'quiet down over there, X Factor is starting' and be made to feel as if we're making a big deal over nothing.(Original post by fire2burn)
No, the UK would never give up the NHS and likewise the US government would never want to take on the responsibility of running and funding it. The Republicans and the Tea Party movement especially would throw their toys out of the pram over it. Just one of the many huge disagreements in policy.
There are many in the UK who distrust the US, and a significant number that outright despise it. The right for nationalistic reasons and the left because of what they perceive as US global imperialism and rampant capitalism. It would just never work if it went to referendum it would never pass. -
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?How about the US join with the UK? It seems fairer.(Original post by DYKWIA)
This time it would be done properly. The uk would join the US, not rule it. It would have a big effect on elections, no doubt, but it would be democratic, not imperialistic.
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?If the UK became the 51st state we'd be the most populous, have the most number of congressmen and generally just be a huge voting bloc that could derail the rest of the country.
So.... pros and cons.Last edited by Drewski; 22-10-2011 at 22:57. -
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Re: Should England join the US and leave the EU?I don't think so. We do have quite a lot in common with the states, but we do also have quite a strong national image that we wouldn't want to sacrifice to join the states.
And besides, you're just a load to treasonous rebels!Last edited by Abbadon27; 21-10-2011 at 16:15.
