[drknoble]

(Original post by Emaemmaemily)
But who are you to decide if those are things that should be used to measure which is the greatest country? I gave you examples of what I think should be included, and you've completely ignored them.
I'm losing more and more respect for you the more you ignore rational points and make things up.

The fact that they are great is the reason why. Something great is recognized and acknowledged like going to the moon. Greatness takes vision, bravery, hard work, and resilience. Steve Jobs was great because he did great things. Norway hasn't really done anything great. The US has done and is doing many great things which is why the US is currently the greatest in the world.

[Luceria]

(Original post by drknoble)
"Greatest" country is not based on opinions, it can be determined by looking at the "great" things the country has done. Norway has not done anything great that would even put it in the top 10. It seems like admitting that the US is the greatest country is hard for some of you. I already know why, it's envy and anti-Americanism. Prime example: instead of focusing on the thread topic, some of you decided to redirect the conversation to "America is hated" so that you could promote your deep seeded personal anti-American views with untrue statements. As of now America is the greatest, you don't have to admit it, just learn to accept it and move on to more important issues.

The cheese slicer is a Norwegian invention. If that isn't greatness, then I don't know.

(Original post by drknoble)
Maybe in Europe, but if you poll the world, Norway would be near the bottom of the list of known countries. What has Norway done? What is Norway known for? They aren't known economically, politically, or culturally via: entertainment, tech, business, etc. I'm just being honest, Norway is absolutely not the greatest country in the world and definitely not greater than the US.

Norway isn't known for a lot. But it is known for the nature/fjords, Vikings, the Nobel Peace Prize, how expensive it is and the oil. Norway is a small country with a population of 4.9 million. Comparing it to the US is a bit silly. Just because you know nothing about Norway doesn't mean it hasn't done anything.

[KrazyKro]

There is no way Britain is same as a nation that considers Pizza, a vegetable.

[welshyelmo]

(Original post by drknoble)
It's funny you're trying to act like you know about the US economy by providing an empty comment with no substance. You don't know about our economy or you would've made a comment worth something, but know-it-all europeans think they know everything.

Getting rid of the Bush tax cuts or just letting them expire in 2012 will significantly reduce US debt problems. Removing the Bush tax cuts will raise taxes back to Clinton levels for the higher income tax brackets.

Talking. Out. Of. Your. Bum.

It's a lot more complicated than "higher taxes= more money= yay! all our problems have gone away!"

[stroppyninja]

(Original post by drknoble)
The fact that they are great is the reason why. Something great is recognized and acknowledged like going to the moon. Greatness takes vision, bravery, hard work, and resilience. Steve Jobs was great because he did great things. Norway hasn't really done anything great. The US has done and is doing many great things which is why the US is currently the greatest in the world.

unlike your fledgling nation, countries in Europe have a long history, and the inventions on which you built your nation were all European exports.

I'm sure if you bothered to look it up, you'd find Norway has done many great things.

[drknoble]

(Original post by arra)
Though I agree with you that the USA is one of the best countries in the world, the best considering its circumstances, I disagree with this. Is Russia clouded by Stalin, Cambodia by Pol Pot, or China by Mao? I think not .

Don't misunderstand me, German culture is wonderful. What I mean is that parts of the German culture "mindshare" is taken up by Hitler because WW2 is a very popular war in pop culture and Hitler has become one of the greatest enemies of pop culture. A new hitler youtube video pops up every single day.

[Dubliner]

(Original post by welshyelmo)

Talking. Out. Of. Your. Bum.

It's a lot more complicated than "higher taxes= more money= yay! all our problems have gone away!"

Ergh. Goldman Sachs

[DYKWIA]

(Original post by stroppyninja)
unlike your fledgling nation, countries in Europe have a long history, and the inventions on which you built your nation were all European exports.

I'm sure if you bothered to look it up, you'd find Norway has done many great things.

We have over 300 years of history. Hardly a 'fledgling nation'.

Also, Norway is only successful due to its oil.

[drknoble]

(Original post by Emaemmaemily)
2 wrongs don't make a right?
Killing hundreds of thousands of people is a terrible thing to have happened... There is never a "good reason" for that. They were just as wrong as the other world leaders commiting bad crimes in this time.

But you seem to be completely ignoring my points on this thread, and I've lost patience. Good luck winning arguments when you simply ignore it when someone proves you wrong.

You alway seem to side against me just of the sake of it, he brought this up topic called the US terrorist, but you say nothing to him. The A-bomb was used during warfare and far more would have died if there was an invasion. The US did nothing wrong.

[Winning]

(Original post by drknoble)
Norway hasn't really done anything great. The US has done and is doing many great things which is why the US is currently the greatest in the world.

Norway, much like the rest of scandinavia is a beautiful country with great people and a rich culture. The things norwegians have achieved they actually did themselves unlike the US who only took european innovations and pretended they'd be their own. And if you compare it populationwise, a much larger percentage of norwegians do great things.

Norway is well-liked and respected, so even if they aren't a military superpower I'd call them much more significant and important on a global scale than the US.

[arra]

Ok fine, we're a fledgling nation. I'm ok with that. But IF that's your premise then I can full-well deduce that we did in 300 years what you did in millennia. Not bad

[drknoble]

(Original post by Luceria)
The cheese slicer is a Norwegian invention. If that isn't greatness, then I don't know.



Norway isn't known for a lot. But it is known for the nature/fjords, Vikings, the Nobel Peace Prize, how expensive it is and the oil. Norway is a small country with a population of 4.9 million. Comparing it to the US is a bit silly. Just because you know nothing about Norway doesn't mean it hasn't done anything.

I have nothing against Norway, looks like a nice place.

[Winning]

(Original post by drknoble)
You alway seem to side against me just of the sake of it, he brought this up topic called the US terrorist, but you say nothing to him. The A-bomb was used during warfare and far more would have died if there was an invasion. The US did nothing wrong.

I only mentioned hiroshima because you kept bringing up your 'great history', whilst I was saying that what matters most it what you are today.

And just because you do something during warfare doesn't mean it can't be terrorism. When germany rounded up jews and murdered them, that wasn't warefare, it was murder. We did awful things and we own that mistake, we admit it, and we are ashamed of it.

And if you call this 'nothing wrong' then you truly are despicable:

[Luceria]

(Original post by DYKWIA)
We have over 300 years of history. Hardly a 'fledgling nation'.

Also, Norway is only successful due to its oil.

Norway has other natural resources as well. Everything has been handled in a smart and careful manner. That's why Norway is rich.
Most of the oil money is put into a giant pension fund.

[Lewis :D]

(Original post by Luceria)
Norway has other natural resources as well. Everything has been handled in a smart and careful manner. That's why Norway is rich. Most of the oil money is put into a giant pension fund.

Where in Norway do you live? My step-dad used to work in Bergen, I've always wanted to go there

[Luceria]

(Original post by Lewis :D)
Where in Norway do you live? My step-dad used to work in Bergen, I've always wanted to go there

At the moment I live in Bergen (uni). But I'm from a smaller city about three hours away from Bergen.

[Democracy]

(Original post by Luceria)
At the moment I live in Bergen (uni). But I'm from a smaller city about three hours away from Bergen.

And on that note, we're done. Time gentlemen please!