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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialHe isn't a regular this season, and he isn't the winger with pace and flair like everyone expected, he's been resigned to right back lots as well!(Original post by mackemforever)
What?
He is a regular starter for one of the best teams in the world, arguably his countries best ever player, and yet you don't think he has reached his potential?
Players like o'shea and wes brown could of been considered regular starters for united, but it doesn't make them everyones dream player, right? -
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialI'd like to suggest Solskjaer; my favourite player ever as a little LAD, yes he achieved so much under United but just imagine how much he couldve achieved if his knees weren't so injury prone, he was worse than Hargreaves with his knee problems, and imagine how many goals he couldve scored if Fergie wouldve started him more often...
He also had a year out before joining United with the Norwegian army.
He had an unbelievable goal to appearance ratio considering sometimes he'd just play five minutes at a time. could easily have played in a Barcelona side.
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their Potentiali loved Alan Smith, he was great.(Original post by stubear)
smith was converted to a DMF to replace roy kean by fergie, which he was pretty good at but he suffered a nastly leg break and discolated ankle and so didn't play for most of 3 years before moving to newcastle where he kept getting further injuries (think he broke the other ankle there)
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialTerry Cooke, was fairly highly thought of and had an excellent debut for Manchester United in February of 1996...certainly in the 95/96 season anyway (setting up a goal for Giggs, almost scoring himself) but his career has turned out to be loan spells and single seasons at lower league clubs (or the US). Playing on the right of midfield as Beckham was emerging didn't help.
There have been many young players at all clubs, particularly United, who never made it. But for some reason I always remember Terry Cooke, probably because of his debut (and an awesome goal he scored when playing for City).
Paul "I was one of the best" Gasgoine. No Paul, you never truly established yourself as one of the best over a long period of time, for obvious reasons. Then there's all the other obvious ones like Francis Jeffers.
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There is football played outside of England.
Well, I suppose there's Scotland too....
He is Ukranian. Italy is "abroad" for him.(Original post by singleandrich)
yeah win a flipping Ballon'dor and flop whilst playing abroad.
Messi is Argentinian, playing in Spain, though at least he spent some of his teenage years in Spain and classed as home grown but still techincally "abroad".same goes for MESSI(wait and see).
At least another two seasons, though I can't help but think that he was being hyped up just a little too much in his final months at Newcastle.ANDY CARROLL is only 22 hmmm. how much time do we have left?
Was converted to a defensive/holding midfielder type by Fergie, so of course he wasn't as regular a goal scorer. But, yes, he did have a few injuries in his first season at OT, then further injuries in his final season and at Newcastle.(Original post by rural_boy)
Alan Smith, leeds striker not the Arsenal one. Such a great player for Leeds, but after a big money move to Man Utd he faded plus I think he was injured, bit of a shame..
Erm....he has won it twice (1998, 1999). He hasn't won the Golden Boot in his 20s or 30s, however(Original post by Shed Head)
I think Owen would've had the premiership golden boot at least once if not for the injuries/moving to Madrid.
Considering his still very young age when he joined United, I don't think the year in the army negatively affected his career too much.(Original post by resentment.)
I'd like to suggest Solskjaer; my favourite player ever as a little LAD, yes he achieved so much under United but just imagine how much he couldve achieved if his knees weren't so injury prone, he was worse than Hargreaves with his knee problems, and imagine how many goals he couldve scored if Fergie wouldve started him more often...
He also had a year out before joining United with the Norwegian army.
If he had started the games who's to say he would've had the same impact? Fergie himself said that Solksjaer was a master of watching the game on the bench and carefully studying it before coming on. As a started he would have been unable to do this. -
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialValencia was one of United's best players in his first season there, his creativty was obvious (and dearly missed when injured). His broken leg a year ago obviously helf up back, and he has rarely started this season due to the acquisition of Young (with Nani on the opposite flank) but I feel you're being quite unfair on him.(Original post by cup)
He isn't a regular this season, and he isn't the winger with pace and flair like everyone expected, he's been resigned to right back lots as well!
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialI don't think he's been terrible at Everton, when not playing as a lone striker. Was never really in favour of Fergie buying him.(Original post by pinouche13)
semms like everyone forgot Louis Saha.
But was he ever though of as having special potential at a young age? I can't remember him impressing much in his first spell in England (loan move to Newcastle in the late 1990s).
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their Potential(Original post by River85)
Terry Cooke, was fairly highly thought of and had an excellent debut for Manchester United in February of 1996...certainly in the 95/96 season anyway (setting up a goal for Giggs, almost scoring himself) but his career has turned out to be loan spells and single seasons at lower league clubs (or the US). Playing on the right of midfield as Beckham was emerging didn't help.
There have been many young players at all clubs, particularly United, who never made it. But for some reason I always remember Terry Cooke, probably because of his debut (and an awesome goal he scored when playing for City).
Paul "I was one of the best" Gasgoine. No Paul, you never truly established yourself as one of the best over a long period of time, for obvious reasons. Then there's all the other obvious ones like Francis Jeffers.
Well, I suppose there's Scotland too....
He is Ukranian. Italy is "abroad" for him.
Messi is Argentinian, playing in Spain, though at least he spent some of his teenage years in Spain and classed as home grown but still techincally "abroad".
At least another two seasons, though I can't help but think that he was being hyped up just a little too much in his final months at Newcastle.
Was converted to a defensive/holding midfielder type by Fergie, so of course he wasn't as regular a goal scorer. But, yes, he did have a few injuries in his first season at OT, then further injuries in his final season and at Newcastle.
Erm....he has won it twice (1998, 1999). He hasn't won the Golden Boot in his 20s or 30s, however
Considering his still very young age when he joined United, I don't think the year in the army negatively affected his career too much.
If he had started the games who's to say he would've had the same impact? Fergie himself said that Solksjaer was a master of watching the game on the bench and carefully studying it before coming on. As a started he would have been unable to do this.
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it wasn't that Solskjaer didn't always start, sometimes he didn't even make the bench cos of Forlan or whatevs.
I was distraught when he said he would retire due to his knee problems, I knew the day was coming for 5 years but never wanted it to arrive. -
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialYup. It's a forum. It's here to discuss things.(Original post by resentment.)
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During his final few years at OT, certainly in the second half of the 02-03 season, he was used on the right side of midfield (in Beckham's absence). He actually got quite a few starts in that season from what I can remember, and has gone on record as saying that the 2003 title means more to him that the treble due to those starts.it wasn't that Solskjaer didn'always start, sometimes he didn't even make the bench cos of Forlan or whatevs. I was distraught when he said he would retire due to his knee problems, I knew the day was coming for 5 years but never wanted it to arrive.
Forlan was only at OT for two full seasons, with that 02-03 season being the first of them. So from what I can remember he never really competed with Forlan as he was either played on the right of midfield or was injured with his knee problems for much of the time. Admittedly Saha came in early 2004, with Forlan leaving that summer, but wasn't Solksjaer injured for much of 2004-2006 anyway? -
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialHe had a big potential but he had too much injuries during his carrier. He did 2 very impressive seasons at Fulham but you can't reach the top when you're injured all the time (only ronaldo can).(Original post by River85)
I don't think he's been terrible at Everton, when not playing as a lone striker. Was never really in favour of Fergie buying him.
But was he ever though of as having special potential at a young age? I can't remember him impressing much in his first spell in England (loan move to Newcastle in the late 1990s).
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Also I think Trezeguet never reached his full potential. And I would say Ribery too, this guy could be thousand times better.
I changed it, may it make you feel better.Last edited by pinouche13; 01-11-2011 at 22:26. -
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialYes, - meaning that he never quite reached his potential, injuries got in his way, he was credited all over United with the best finishing skills any of the players/coaches had ever seen.(Original post by River85)
Yup. It's a forum. It's here to discuss things.
During his final few years at OT, certainly in the second half of the 02-03 season, he was used on the right side of midfield (in Beckham's absence). He actually got quite a few starts in that season from what I can remember, and has gone on record as saying that the 2003 title means more to him that the treble due to those starts.
Forlan was only at OT for two full seasons, with that 02-03 season being the first of them. So from what I can remember he never really competed with Forlan as he was either played on the right of midfield or was injured with his knee problems for much of the time. Admittedly Saha came in early 2004, with Forlan leaving that summer, but wasn't Solksjaer injured for much of 2004-2006 anyway?
He was also in contest with Sheringham, Cole and York in his early years. -
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialYou're incredibly ignorant. Shevchenko scored 19 goals in his first season and nearly double figures in the next. He left the season after. And you say tactics don't matter? Laughable. Also, you haven't been able to differentiate between 'reaching one's potential' and 'playing at their peak'.(Original post by praj1)
look im a chelsea fan... and at the end of the day the tactics or anything dont matter....what does is that the club bought a player for 35 million who only scored like 5 goals....in was it 3 seasons?
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialIndeed they are. Someone also said Ballack.(Original post by CB91)
People saying Shevchenko are idiots.
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their PotentialFreddy Adu comes to mind. Keirrison, thus far, unless something changes. Michael Owen was, yes, very good - but did he fulfil his true potential? It's up for debate. Before this season and the second half I would've said Daniel Sturridge. Shows not to judge too early. Bojan. To an extent, Theo Walcott, although he still has a lot of time to be fair.
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Re: Players Who Never Quite Reached Their Potentialnooo, in his first year at arsenal he was arguably one of the best players in the world. But he is past is peak and is disinteresting in football as he apparently wants to start a new career in fashion. Arsene should have signed him at an earlier age(Original post by joshgoldman)
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