[Snowfreeze]

Nobody can see how stunningly sexy the Muslim gash are when they're wearing a hijab. Even the fat/greasy/scary ones could be sexy under all that cloth, but alas the rapists will never no and thus will never be tempted.

[fuze-mo25]

btw clothing has nothing to do with rape ... I believe its more of a wrong place at the wrong time ...

[isitinyet?]

(Original post by fuze-mo25)
your name is just epic

i know

[Snowfreeze]

(Original post by 99luft Balons)
Ok I know muslims have to wear hijab to look modest but will SOME muslims please stop saying that "it's so men don't rape women" or "that girl got raped because she was wearing a mini skirt so it's her fault" it is never the rape victims fault.

A common misconception about hijab is that it protects you from any unwanted sexual attention. This is extremely misleading and incorrect. Thousands upon thousands of hijabis and niqabis are victims of all sorts of sexual assault. A person does not rape or sexually assault a woman based on her clothing. It is about power, control, and opportunity. Given the circumstance, a covered woman is just as likely to be sexually attacked as an uncovered woman. It is better to be realistic and prepared than to believe your clothing makes you invincible.

Do Muslims really believe that men are such animals that they cannot control themselves? If they see a woman who does not have her hair covered they just have to rape her because they are so horned up?

Plus, women in Muslim countries are raped all the time - they just get blamed for it instead of the perpetrators being held accountable.

Small children get raped. Men get raped. Rape is about power and control. Full Stop.

In Muslim countries it is never viewed as the main's fault; it is always the woman's fault for looking too nice, or even seductive. Some places want the Burka to cover one eye, as two eyes can be seen as seductive. The men are always looked upon as the victims in places like this, as they could not help but rape the woman because she was looking so seductive, and they violated the man's eyes and spirit and forced them to rape her.

[Dippy Dip]

It's about modesty, though some do believe that it stops rape because a man isn't accountable for his sexual urges, and, in theory, a modestly dressed woman is less likely to be the victim of rape. I'm not saying that this is true, or even if they themselves believe it to be true, but this is the theory behind it preventing rape.

[fuze-mo25]

(Original post by Snowfreeze)
In Muslim countries it is never viewed as the main's fault; it is always the woman's fault for looking too nice, or even seductive. Some places want the Burka to cover one eye, as two eyes can be seen as seductive. The men are always looked upon as the victims in places like this, as they could not help but rape the woman because she was looking so seductive, and they violated the man's eyes and spirit and forced them to rape her.

oh wise sir can you show me one piece of evidence to back up your point ... Coz it seems like your trolling out your ass hole

[lambert1]

(Original post by fuze-mo25)
btw clothing has nothing to do with rape ... I believe its more of a wrong place at the wrong time ...

Who would want to rape some ugly fat woman wearing a hijad? the myth of controlling the victim has to be busted it is all about desperate guys trying to get laid.

[fuze-mo25]

(Original post by lambert1)
Who would want to rape some ugly fat woman wearing a hijad? the myth of controlling the victim has to be busted it is all about desperate guys trying to get laid.

you just contradicted your statement I said clothing ... Your talking about a fat n ugly women

[Indo-Chinese Food]

(Original post by Fungii)
It seems you do not read my posts, but instead ignore the bits you find hard replying to.

All I will be doing in repeating myself and hence the circular argument.

Please read what I said about

"Women who dress modestly obviously have done so because they do not want their beauty to be their main attraction. (Now, what else would you find attractive in a woman other than her beauty? It has to do with actually having an intelligent conversation with a woman instead of "gawking" upon her naked body.)

While women who spend hours in front of a mirror, and go out wearing skimpy clothing, obviously do so with the intention of letting their "beauty" be the main attraction. (While this woman actually encourages and gets satisfaction of the fact men "gawk" at her, otherwise she wouldn't have gone through all of that trouble in the first place.)"

Tell me what problem you have with this part, and then we can move onto another issue.

But you also claimed muslim women covering up themselves was to do with "demonsrating their intellect"

What is is intellectual about an arab women wearing a sack with eye holes cut out in 45 degrees centigrade. If you cant explain your logic here adequatley , then you really cant discuss matters on my level.

[Fungii]

(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)
But you also claimed muslim women covering up themselves was to do with "demonsrating their intellect"

What is is intellectual about an arab women wearing a sack with eye holes cut out in 45 degrees centigrade. If you cant explain your logic here adequatley , then you really cant discuss matters on my level.

Can you try to refute the post you quoted, then we can move onto your question, which has been answered in my previous posts surprisingly. If you cannot refute it then we can move on.

[Indo-Chinese Food]

(Original post by Fungii)
Can you try to refute the post you quoted, then we can move onto your question, which has been answered in my previous posts surprisingly. If you cannot refute it then we can move on.

I already answered it in the post before- your comment was in relation to your backward view of modesty, In other societies the ideas portaining to modesty is dfferent - mdoesty is not a point of fact it is societal construct.

ples explain why you believe it is intellectual for a msulim women to cover herself in a black sack with eye holes in the middle of the desert when surrounded by muslim men? If you cant provide any reasoning ill assume it was simply falsehood that you were spreading again, like those 3 guys handing out leaflets in derby

[letsbehonest]

Why are girls that dress like sluts more likely to be raped?

[Snowfreeze]

(Original post by fuze-mo25)
oh wise sir can you show me one piece of evidence to back up your point ... Coz it seems like your trolling out your ass hole

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7651231.stm

Sheikh Muhammad al-Habadan said showing both eyes encouraged women to use eye make-up to look seductive.

http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2004/0...di-Arabia.aspx

[fuze-mo25]

(Original post by Snowfreeze)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7651231.stm



http://www.beliefnet.com/News/2004/0...di-Arabia.aspx

im talking about women getting blamed all the time for them getting raped

[kunoichi]

(Original post by Fungii)
That's why I generally find women with mini skirts consciously covering themselves with their hands. Really comfortable.

Or going out in rainy, below zero conditions, with mini skirts and skimpy tops. They clearly choose their dress' based on comfort and not purely to gain the males attention through vanity instead of appreciating them for what's between their ears.

And please don't tell me that wearing skimpy clothing, in those harsh conditions, is for any other reason, but to attract the lust of the opposite sex. Because you'll only be lying to yourself.

Im going to guess your male here, apologies if im wrong.

Skimpier clothing is far more comfy b/c there is less off it to deal with end off. Any guys cant really challenge this seeing as they dont wear it and wouldnt know.

You can generally tell if someones wearing to attract the opposite sex as they wear it only at social occasions not all of the time.
i wear it pretty much all the time as it is comfy and if i have to go outside i chuck a trench coat on over the top of it in winter. Im not trying to attract anyone, as i already have a bf.

[sbeg2520]

(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)

ples explain why you believe it is intellectual for a msulim women to cover herself in a black sack with eye holes in the middle of the desert when surrounded by muslim men?

Wearing a hibjab & burka in a hot climate really isn't that much of a big deal. I would know. I've worn a hijab and wore clothes and layers that covered my skin (not shorts & a t-shirt) in Spain & Egypt during the hottest times in the summer, I wasn't dehydrated at all. Most hijabs/jilbabs/veils are baggy, thin & light-weight and can be worn with nothing underneath without being see-through. If I wore these clothes instead I would have been much cooler. Personally I don't really see the problem? Isn't it even better to cover your skin while in a desert, to prevent sun-burn anyway? If a woman chose to be covered head-to-toe in a desert then what's wrong with that? If she's been forced to, or any other woman in the world for that matter, then obviously that would be wrong, which I am completely against.

[Zuhaib Hasani]

It's all just because of the western culture that has spoiled the minds of youngsters. Whenever the boys don't find a girl to rape, they rape children.. It's a simple answer. A hint is sufficient to a wise man.

[Zuhaib Hasani]

Have you ever seen the boys exposing their bodies publicly, if they showed, the girls minds would be as much spoiled as that of boys. Because the exposure of body excites your hormones, and hence you receive comparatively more dirty and sexual thoughts. And the girls never show their smartness or dressing, but their bodies, and the it spoils the minds of boys. The root cause of the increasing rapes is the Dirty-Movies & BF's, the boys watch dirty movies, and then their temptation rises and they work out the same on the outsider girls. The bodies of girls excite and light the fire of boys, as a result of which they are tempted towards the intercourse. that's why the boys always look at girls, with an intention to rape them and think dirty of them.
This is a natural feeling and hence an instinct which can't be easily removed from the boys, for instance, a child inclines towards toys despite being reprimanded frequently because of his nature. The same way, if the girls dress immodestly and show off their bodies, so please just ponder what might be the reason behind it, that they are showing off their bodies, if they are so clean minded. it's all just because they want to be looked at and ****ed, they want to distract the boys, and the boys stare at them because of their nature. If the boys stop glancing & staring at them, they will be perplexed and their purpose of dressing dirtily would remain unserved. So, the dresses of girls are more inviting for boys.

[dollsarehot]

(Original post by humaira.k)
In islam believe it or not both than man and woman and see equal but play different roles. E.g. Lets talk about a married couple. The man has to work unless he is realy ill but its is optional for the woman as she is giving birth to kids etc. So when the man works 3/4 of his salary is his wifes, but if the woman she doesnt have to give her husand a penny. Do you get me?

how is that men and women being equal? lol.

[tazarooni89]

(Original post by dollsarehot)
how is that men and women being equal? lol.

I think he means equal in status/respect. Not equal in roles.