The 11/12 NBA season thread
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Re: The 11/12 NBA season threadOKC won't defend like they did last night every night though. They'll regress to the mean, which is an average defense that doesn't cover the P&R well, and gives up the most corner 3's in the league. Both of which are where San Antonio makes it's living.(Original post by Miryo)
Ok, explain to me what spurs can do of OKC defend like they did last night. It was near flawless defence
Even if they did defend like that for the rest of the series, which they won't, Ibaka isn't going to get 14 a night, Sefolosha definitely isn't going to get 19 a night. Manu isn't going to just hit 1 FG every night, Leonard, Green, Diaw and Bonner aren't going to contribute a combined 6 points every night regardless of how they're defended.
In addition to this, OKC's defensive adjustments that worked so well, have almost certainly opened up some other weakness in their defense. It's damn near impossible to not give some sort of weakness up on the defensive end regardless of the strategy you employ, and if there's any coach the league who can study the game tape and adjust sets to exploit the new inevitable weaknesses, it's Pop.
tldr: OKC won't defend on the level they did last night for the rest of the series, and if they do, it won't result in a blowout every night. -
Re: The 11/12 NBA season threadYou seem to have taken all the credit from OKC and just said that Spurs' were poor. The reason the Spurs' played so badly, the reason for the low points was OKC defence.(Original post by SamF1992)
OKC won't defend like they did last night every night though. They'll regress to the mean, which is an average defense that doesn't cover the P&R well, and gives up the most corner 3's in the league. Both of which are where San Antonio makes it's living.
Even if they did defend like that for the rest of the series, which they won't, Ibaka isn't going to get 14 a night, Sefolosha definitely isn't going to get 19 a night. Manu isn't going to just hit 1 FG every night, Leonard, Green, Diaw and Bonner aren't going to contribute a combined 6 points every night regardless of how they're defended.
In addition to this, OKC's defensive adjustments that worked so well, have almost certainly opened up some other weakness in their defense. It's damn near impossible to not give some sort of weakness up on the defensive end regardless of the strategy you employ, and if there's any coach the league who can study the game tape and adjust sets to exploit the new inevitable weaknesses, it's Pop.
tldr: OKC won't defend on the level they did last night for the rest of the series, and if they do, it won't result in a blowout every night.
This performance will definately give OKC some momentum, if the team just put in the same work rate, I think Spurs' will find it difficult. If they keep Parker and Ginobli quiet, I think its going to be impossible for Spurs.
Also, the reason Ibaka and Sefolosha got so many points was because Westbrook passed the ball, if he carries on doing that, I can't see why OKC won't turn them over. -
Re: The 11/12 NBA season threadI know the Thunder played well and I'm not taking anything away from them, but players like Ginobli aren't going to hit just 1 FG on too many occasions, regardless of how good the defense is.(Original post by Miryo)
You seem to have taken all the credit from OKC and just said that Spurs' were poor. The reason the Spurs' played so badly, the reason for the low points was OKC defence.
This performance will definately give OKC some momentum, if the team just put in the same work rate, I think Spurs' will find it difficult. If they keep Parker and Ginobli quiet, I think its going to be impossible for Spurs.
Also, the reason Ibaka and Sefolosha got so many points was because Westbrook passed the ball, if he carries on doing that, I can't see why OKC won't turn them over.
The main issue is though, is that the Thunder will find it very difficult to keep up such a good standard on D over the rest of the series. As you said, they played near perfect defense last night, but they're generally an average defensive team that defends the pick and roll poorly and gives up lots of corner 3's. The likelyhood is that over the course of the next 4 games, they regress to the mean, which is average defense. That's not to say they won't be better than they were in the regular season, but it's unlikely they'll be as good as last night on a consistent basis. -
Re: The 11/12 NBA season thread
The big difference IMO was Perk played less minutes last night and when he was out he was in sets to help cover him whereas in Games 1 and 2 he was getting abused in the pick and roll by Ginobili and particularly Parker but the Spurs will work out how to get what they want against the Thunders smaller set before long and also the play of Westbrook was influentual and will be a big factor for the Thunder (as ever) as the series progresses
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Re: The 11/12 NBA season threadYea, I imagine the Celts are pretty pissed too.(Original post by TheLouisVuittonDon)

Mildly annoyed though, we should have won game 2 and should be up 2-1 right now. -
Re: The 11/12 NBA season threadI'm annoyed as well. I was listening to it at night in the dark, fell asleep a minute into the second quarter and woke up with 4 minutes left and them up 15. I missed all the good parts!(Original post by TheLouisVuittonDon)

Mildly annoyed though, we should have won game 2 and should be up 2-1 right now. -
Same here man! Bring on game 4, though!!(Original post by TheLouisVuittonDon)

Mildly annoyed though, we should have won game 2 and should be up 2-1 right now.
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Re: The 11/12 NBA season threadYup crying that we still have a lead, definitely crying.(Original post by TheLouisVuittonDon)
I bet that Harris guy was crying whilst watching that game, his most hated player lighting the heat up.
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Re: The 11/12 NBA season threadYou have a lead because of homecourt.. that is all.(Original post by johnharris19944)
Yup crying that we still have a lead, definitely crying. -
Re: The 11/12 NBA season threadThey have lead because they won the first two games, that is all...(Original post by TheLouisVuittonDon)
You have a lead because of homecourt.. that is all.
Anyway Heat in 6 games i think. Same with Spurs- Thunder.Last edited by Jim_Metrin; 02-06-2012 at 12:36. -
Re: The 11/12 NBA season threadYeah, I saw that. Although not surprising, I expected it to happen. not to worry, Heat wrap it up in 5 with Chris Bosh's imminent return(Original post by Xotol)
You were gone a while son. You missed the C's take a dump on your Heat. Marquis Daniels completely beasted Lebron lmao.
Anyway, I expect SAS to take tonights game and wrap this up in 5 or max 6.