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Re: Moving North of Vag
Had a session like that the other day, sacked it off too. Failing rep after rep just puts me in a proper mood.
Alright, I can imagine what you're going to say about this. But how succesful will I be getting down to low BF% (8-10%)? I want better cheek bones/jaw line really. Will it eat away at my muscle mass or can you sustain and gain muscle at that BF natty? -
Re: Moving North of Vag**** days happen. They suck but whatever. I feel better today so I'll get the work done.(Original post by Slick Fosbury)
Had a session like that the other day, sacked it off too. Failing rep after rep just puts me in a proper mood.
Alright, I can imagine what you're going to say about this. But how succesful will I be getting down to low BF% (8-10%)? I want better cheek bones/jaw line really. Will it eat away at my muscle mass or can you sustain and gain muscle at that BF natty?
As for sustaining and gaining at low bf% it depends what your end goal is really. If you want to be really ****ing big then you need to forget about looking pretty for a considerable amount of time IMO. If you look at the ages of natural BBing competitors the people who win in the heavier weight classes are generally younger than the people who win the lighter classes. Getting big is a sprint as far as I'm concerned. Yes you can gain some size whilst keeping your abs but if you ever want to be shredded at over 100kg as a natural you have to bulk balls out.
If you don't want to be a monster then go ahead and diet down and watch what you eat. Google carb backloading- apparently it's a pretty good way to stay lean whilst gaining size and strength. I haven't ever tried it though. -
Re: Moving North of Vag
Did what I was supposed to do yesterday. Lowered the volume a bit because tomorrow is going to be a big session.
Chins
+10x10
x8
x8
+15
x6
x6
x5
x5
x5
+20
x3
x3
+25
x1
+30
x1
BW
x12
Barbell Rows
80x12
x12
90x10
x12
x12
Lat Pull-Down & Straight Arm Pull-Down Superset
3 rounds, 10-20 reps
Conditioning as per normal.
Proper 80% day. Nothing to see here. -
Re: Moving North of Vag
Not much to report again, winding things down as I'm taking a week off as of monday.
Squat
60x8
100x5
130x3
145x9
Paused Squat- A2G 3 seconds in the hole.
100x5
100x5
100x5
100x5
100x5
100x5
100x5
100x5
Good Mornings
60x10
60x10
60x10
60x10
60x10
Leg Curls
3x12-15
Leg Extension
2x15
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Re: Moving North of VagNo point in limiting myself based on the achievements of others. It may well be unlikely but that doesn't mean I shouldn't try. It has been done so it is possible.(Original post by commandant)
100kg shredded as a natural is extremely unlikely, even as a gear user that is a mammoth task.
OHP was trained today.
Press
50x5
55x5
65x3
75x4
60x8
60x8
55x10
50x10
50x10
Seated Smith Press
60x10
70x8
70x8
Rear Delt Flyes + Front Raise superset
3 rounds
Face Pulls
1x20
1x12
Also did lots of pullups throughout the workout.
Conditioning.
Week off now. Yay! Still going to keep the conditioning and flexibility work up but I'm not going to lift again until next monday.Last edited by Old School; 03-06-2012 at 18:19. -
Re: Moving North of VagStrong stuff. Good , a week off once in a while helps in recovery and in hitting prs .(Original post by Old School)
No point in limiting myself based on the achievements of others. It may well be unlikely but that doesn't mean I shouldn't try. It has been done so it is possible.
OHP was trained today.
Press
50x5
55x5
65x3
75x4
60x8
60x8
55x10
50x10
50x10
Seated Smith Press
60x10
70x8
70x8
Rear Delt Flyes + Front Raise superset
3 rounds
Face Pulls
1x20
1x12
Also did lots of pullups throughout the workout.
Conditioning.
Week off now. Yay! Still going to keep the conditioning and flexibility work up but I'm not going to lift again until next monday. -
Re: Moving North of VagYup that's the plan.(Original post by liftorrot)
Strong stuff. Good , a week off once in a while helps in recovery and in hitting prs .
I'm feeling pretty beat up at the moment following this last microcycle.
I don't plan in weeks off but take them when I start to get pain in my joints and/or low back that interferes with basic things like picking stuff up off the floor or sitting in a chair for a long time. This usually happens every 12-20 weeks.
Plus I'm working 1900-0700 night shifts weds-sun so it fits in quite well.Last edited by Old School; 04-06-2012 at 11:59. -
Re: Moving North of Vag
Feeling like an absolute baws after my week off.
Training has had to change a little too. Cos I'm back on placement I've now got a 60+ hour work week with a 1hr commute each way. Shifts are 12 hours ranging from 0500-1700, 1000-2200 to 1300-0100. Also as exams and job interviews are round the corner I'm only committing to two 'big' sessions per week with an upper/lower split.
Basic plan is as follows
Upper A
Bench Press 5/3/1 reps and sets
Bench Press- work up to a heavy single over 3-4 sets
Press 5x10 supersetted with pullups
Incline Press 5x10
Rows 5x10
Upper B
As upper A but bench is swapped for press and chins are swapped for rows.
Lower
Squat 5/3/1 reps and sets
Paused Squats 5x5 or 8x3 depending on weight/feeling after widowmaker squat set.
SLDL/RDL 5x6-8
Good Mornings 5x10
Abs to taste.
In addition to this I'm going to do 'small' workouts. Basically rear delt, traps, pec and arm work. High volume, low intensity, little rest between sets- think the 120 rep shrug workout I did a couple weeks ago. These won't follow a set structure and I'll be doing whatever the **** I like.
If I don't get any small workouts in in a week then I'm not going to **** myself and if I feel like doing 2 per day on days off then I will.
I'm going to keep up conditioning and try to do some steady state cardio as often as I can (probably before/after small workouts or upper body days) along with hill sprints at least 2x per week.
Should be a fun experiment.
Today's session was made of awesome.
Bench
80x5
90x5
105x8.5 equal PB
110x1
120x1
125xf
125x1 PB
Press
50x10x5
Chins
BWx50 over 5ish sets
Incline Dbells
32x10x5
Rows
70x10
Ran 1.5k on the treadmill.
Considering I've finished a run of 5 night shifts at 0700 this morning and haven't yet been to bed today that was pretty solid. -
Re: Moving North of VagThanking you(Original post by Becca)
Sweet benching. Gratz on the PB!!
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Squat day. It hurt. Fun though.
Assistance work is aimed at strengthening my hips and adductors to try to rectify the medial knee drift I get when I go to >95% or on the last few reps of a widowmaker set. This is all a result of my hamstring tear. **** me I love rehab. Or not.
Squat
60x5
100x5
130x3
150x6 PB
Paused Squat (A2G, 3 second pause in the hole)
110x5x5
SLDL
80x10x5
Good Morning
60x10x5
Good-Girl/Bad-Girl Machine (Adductor)
Worked up to maxing the stack out over a few sets of 10, pausing for peak contraction. Then did 3x10 with the thing maxed in the same fashion.Last edited by Old School; 12-06-2012 at 21:39. -
Re: Moving North of VagIt's been done before which means it's possible. Extremely unlikely, but possible. Especially as I plan on lifting until I can't lift anymore (hopefully I'll die shortly after that point) and don't care about getting fat if it means I'll hit around 100kg in good condition- around 8%. Even if I don't reach that point until I'm in my 30's, I really couldn't give much of a ****. I don't plan on competing for a few years or more either (massive change of plan, I know. Priorities change unfortunately).(Original post by McHumpy92)
You won't ever get 100kg shredded as a natural at your height
Did 15 mins of conditioning (sprints and ****) this morning as I worked from 0900-2100 and had to leave my house at 0730. Doing the same **** tomorrow minus the conditioning because my legs and hips feel like **** after yesterday's leg workout.
Some is better than none. -
Re: Moving North of Vag
Trained upper body yesterday and did some cardio too.
Press
50x5
60x3
65x3
72.5x4
Rows
75x10x5
Bench Press
60x10
90x10
90x10
90x10
90x12
Chins
BW+15x5
x5
x5
+20x3
x3
x3
+30x2
x2
x2
I do these with a neutral grip because that's where I'm strongest.
Face Pulls
100 total reps broken down as follows
40, 20, 20, 10, 10- rested just long enough to make the burn a little less erm... burny
Cardio
10 minutes LIIT
Bodyweight was 88kg (odd, though I am back working shifts so my bodyweight usually takes a hit over the first couple of weeks. I ate 2 pizzas and a banoffee tart to rectify this.) -
Re: Moving North of Vag
Squats and a big PR
Squat
60x5
100x5
120x1
150x1
170x1 'PB'
172.5x1 PB
I have squatted more in the past but this is a real milestone for me following my hammie tear. I went to the gym with the sole intention of squatting 170. 170 went up OKish so I went for 172.5 and hit that too. Result.
RDL
60x10
100x10
140x10
160x8
170x7
170x6
Good girl/Bad girl Machine
3x12. Machine maxed.
Hanging Leg Raises
4x10
Bodyweight back up to 89 on the dot. -
Re: Moving North of VagI think I'll have it fresh. Going to try to hit 130 next week at some point.(Original post by liftorrot)
Strong benching man... 130 should be doable now
Should be fun.
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