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(Original post by I Kant Spall)
Just a brief list of colleges/unis in the USA that I'm applying to or interested in attending. I want to see if they're known outside the USA at all, specifically among British students. A simple yes or no will suffice. Also, rate your knowledge of American unis on a scale of 1 to 10.

Bard No
Carnegie-Mellon Yes, but overall it won't be very well known
Dartmouth Yes, absolutely if it's Dartmouth College it will be well recognised here in the UK and worldwide, if it's UMass Dartmouth, it will be less recognised (I've heard of it though!)
Duke Yes, quite a strong brand name university
Georgetown No
Middlebury No
Tufts Yes, again it'll be considerable well known in the UK and worldwide, I mainly know about it because they advertise their business school heavily in the Financial Times and the economist
William & Mary Yes, but I only know about it because I'm applying to St Andrews in the UK, and they have an exchange program with W & M

I'd also rate my knowledge of American universities a bit higher than the average uk citizen , so probably 6.5/10 - for example I know the huge names that most UK people know (Columbia, Harvard, Dartmouth College etc), and also big US names that uk citizens won't know (Brown, Texas A&M, Boston College, Carnegie-Mellon), but don't know every university in the US, or precisely how they rank in academic rep.

[cheese-lemming]

(Original post by I Kant Spall)
Just a brief list of colleges/unis in the USA that I'm applying to or interested in attending. I want to see if they're known outside the USA at all, specifically among British students. A simple yes or no will suffice. Also, rate your knowledge of American unis on a scale of 1 to 10.

Bard -
Carnegie-Mellon
Dartmouth
Duke
Georgetown
Middlebury
Tufts
William & Mary

I wanna do the same thing, apply to the USA that is... I've done a fair bit of research and I have heard of 5/10...
BTW. if you go / visit Middlebury let me know how it is... IT LOOKS AWESOME!!!! :O

[frfd000000]

(Original post by I Kant Spall)
How do you like Dartmouth, and living in Hanover in general?

I'm a grad student in Dartmouth's Business School. I like the university, but I did my undergrad at McGill University, in Montreal, so needless to say Hanover doesn't live up to my expectations.

[BO'H]

i know them all and attended a summer language programme at middlebury

10/10: i grew up in the us and went to undergrad there.

[Haychee]

I have only heard of Dartmouth because they mention it on Superbad.

My knowledge 1/10

[hockeyjoe]

(Original post by I Kant Spall)
Just a brief list of colleges/unis in the USA that I'm applying to or interested in attending. I want to see if they're known outside the USA at all, specifically among British students. A simple yes or no will suffice. Also, rate your knowledge of American unis on a scale of 1 to 10.

Bard
Carnegie-Mellon
Dartmouth
Duke
Georgetown
Middlebury
Tufts
William & Mary

heard of Duke, Georgetown, Carnegie-Mellon and Dartmouth. Dartmouth and Georgetown are ivy league schools arent they?

[BO'H]

no, of those only dartmouth is ivy

[ironandwine]

Carnegie-Mellon, Duke and Georgetown... due to watching embarrassing american shows, like 90210

[082349]

(Original post by I Kant Spall)
Just a brief list of colleges/unis in the USA that I'm applying to or interested in attending. I want to see if they're known outside the USA at all, specifically among British students. A simple yes or no will suffice. Also, rate your knowledge of American unis on a scale of 1 to 10.

Bard yes, but I don't think it's a very good school
Carnegie-Mellon yes, but it has no financial aid for internationals
Dartmouth yes
Duke yes
Georgetown yes
Middlebury yes, I like this school a lot
Tufts yes, students are very studious there I heard
William & Mary yes, it has a twinning programme with St. Andrews

10/10.

[frfd000000]

(Original post by frfd000000)
Middleburry and Bard are usually "reach schools".
Dartmouth is Ivy, with an excellent BS. William and Mary is the #1 LAC. Tufts is a strong uni, with a focus on liberal arts too. G-town is one of the best uni in the US for International Relations and Politics. Duke is generally attended by privileged kids with $, very strong school spirit. Carnegie Mellon in very strong for science and tech-related subjects.

That's it, the rest is useless

[NYU2012]

(Original post by frfd000000)
Middleburry and Bard are usually "reach schools".
Dartmouth is Ivy, with an excellent BS. William and Mary is the #1 LAC. Tufts is a strong uni, with a focus on liberal arts too. G-town is one of the best uni in the US for International Relations and Politics. Duke is generally attended by privileged kids with $, very strong school spirit. Carnegie Mellon in very strong for science and tech-related subjects.

William and Mary is a research university, not an LAC. In terms of LACs the top LACs are usually considered the triumvirate (Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore) and Pomona/Havery Mudd.

Contrary to popular belief, GTown's strength is NOT in politics. There are great many number of schools better at politics than GTown. In fact (in order), Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, UCB, UM, Columbia, UC-SD, Duke, MIT, UCLA, UChicago, UNC, WUStL, U Rochester, U Wisconsin, NYU, Ohio State, U Minnesota, Cornell, Northwestern, U Illinois, UT-Austin, Texas A&M, UC-Davis, Indiana University, University of Washington, Emory, Michigan State, Penn State, U Maryland, UPenn, Stony Brook, U Iowa, UVa, Rice, UC-Irvine, and Notre Dame are all stronger in politics/political science than GTown. Gtown is as good as George Washington, Florida State, Hopkins, U Pitt, Vanderbilt, U Colorado. It is NOT a politics powerhouse in terms of faculty employed. GTown's politics faculty is comparatively quite weak.

[frfd000000]

(Original post by NYU2012)
William and Mary is a research university, not an LAC. In terms of LACs the top LACs are usually considered the triumvirate (Amherst, Williams, Swarthmore) and Pomona/Havery Mudd.

Contrary to popular belief, GTown's strength is NOT in politics. There are great many number of schools better at politics than GTown. In fact (in order), Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, UCB, UM, Columbia, UC-SD, Duke, MIT, UCLA, UChicago, UNC, WUStL, U Rochester, U Wisconsin, NYU, Ohio State, U Minnesota, Cornell, Northwestern, U Illinois, UT-Austin, Texas A&M, UC-Davis, Indiana University, University of Washington, Emory, Michigan State, Penn State, U Maryland, UPenn, Stony Brook, U Iowa, UVa, Rice, UC-Irvine, and Notre Dame are all stronger in politics/political science than GTown. Gtown is as good as George Washington, Florida State, Hopkins, U Pitt, Vanderbilt, U Colorado. It is NOT a politics powerhouse in terms of faculty employed. GTown's politics faculty is comparatively quite weak.

Georgetown's IR and Politics programs are top-notch. Deal with it.

[NYU2012]

(Original post by frfd000000)
Georgetown's IR and Politics programs are top-notch. Deal with it.

Georgetown is good in IR, yes. However, they aren't very good in Politics. The list I provided details many schools better at politic than GTown and many graduate students would take the schools I listed over GTown. Face it, you're wrong and GTown isn't an excellent politics program. NYU, for example, is leaps and bounds ahead of GTown. As are Harvard, UM, Princeton, UM, UCB, etc. Need I provide you with endless links that state that GTown's politics department is not as strong as you seem to think? It's not a top 10 program, it's not even close to a top 10 program for politics. GTown is good at IR, they are top 10 in IR. It's common misconception that they're also top-notch in politics; they aren't.

[arnoob]

Heard of Duke University ...

[ILikeToEat]

Dartmouth and Carnegie-Mellon... the latter from 90210 :P

[frfd000000]

(Original post by NYU2012)
Georgetown is good in IR, yes. However, they aren't very good in Politics. The list I provided details many schools better at politic than GTown and many graduate students would take the schools I listed over GTown. Face it, you're wrong and GTown isn't an excellent politics program. NYU, for example, is leaps and bounds ahead of GTown. As are Harvard, UM, Princeton, UM, UCB, etc. Need I provide you with endless links that state that GTown's politics department is not as strong as you seem to think? It's not a top 10 program, it's not even close to a top 10 program for politics. GTown is good at IR, they are top 10 in IR. It's common misconception that they're also top-notch in politics; they aren't.

The IR and Politics programs belong to the same department, the "Department of Government". Scholars like Michael Bailey, Burnam or Jonathan Ladd are teaching in both programs.
I don't care about Gtown, I was never a student there, but they have one of the most impressive "roster" out there.

[NYU2012]

(Original post by frfd000000)
The IR and Politics programs belong to the same department, the "Department of Government". Scholars like Michael Bailey, Burnam or Jonathan Ladd are teaching in both programs.
I don't care about Gtown, I was never a student there, but they have one of the most impressive "roster" out there.

In all of my studies in politics, I have not once encountered any of the three you have mentioned. I have not seen any world-leading research or theory produced by them. Personally, I wouldn't consider them to be all that well-known. On the other hand, look at NYU ranked #17 for politics. It's host to Bruce Beuno De Mesquita who's one of the world's foremost political scientists for quantitative politics/political methodology and has authored numerous books and textbooks on the subject; he's been featured on many TV shows. Mesquita along with Alastair Smith (also of NYU), Randolph M. Siverson (UC-Davis), James D. Morrow (UM) authored the selectorate theory.

Raymond Smith is also relatively well known for his studies and publications on politics and gender.

Steven Brams was the independent author of approval voting; he was a co-discoverer, with Alan Taylor of the first envy-free solution to the n-person cake cutting problem; He is co-inventor with Taylor of the fair-division procedure, Adjusted Winner, which was patented by New York University in 1999.

Dr. Farhad Kazemi is professor of Politics and Middle Eastern Studies at New York University. A leading scholar on issues of the Middle East, Kazemi is a member of the Advisory Group for Public Diplomacy in the Arab and Muslim World, appointed in 2003. He is affiliated with several notable organizations, including President of the Middle Eastern Studies Association and former President of the Society for Iranian Studies. Kazemi has been the recipient of many grants and fellowships that have allowed him to pursue fresh research on politically crucial topics within the Middle East.
Among his many accomplishments, Kazemi is a leading member of several organizations including the American Political Science Association, the International Studies Association, the International Society of Political Psychology, the International Political Science Association, the Council on Foreign Relations, and the Atlantic Council.

Bob Shrum is also a professor at NYU. Shrum is a political speech writer and consultant his work includes writing Kennedy's speech for the 1980 Democratic National Convention; he has worked 8 presidential elections including Al Gore, John Kerry, and Bob Kerry (who was defeated for the democratic ticket by Clinton). He has produce the ad campaigns for 26 winning US senators, 8 winning governors, the Mayors of New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Philadelphia, Denver, Dade County and San Francisco, and the Democratic Leader of the United States House of Representatives.

This is only a few of the many people who work in the NYU Wilf Family Department of Politics. There's a reason NYU is ranked higher than Georgetown for politics and I hope my inclusion of only some of the professors at NYU versus those you've listed at Georgetown can indicate the overall strength of NYU over Georgetown. You might wonder then how Georgetown manages to be so good at IR yet lacking in politics in general. Remember, Georgetown's IR programs use the faculty/resources etc from the the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service, which happens to be arguably the best of its kind. Overall though, Georgetown's politics department is not that strong - there are many other much stronger schools. Including: Columbia, Cornell, Duke, Emory, Harvard, MIT, NYU, Northwestern, Princeton, Stanford, UCB, UCLA, UC-SD, U Chicago, UM, UNC, U Rochester, WUStL, Yale.

I study politics and have nothing against Georgetown, I just know what departments at which schools are the best for politics; since it's kind of one the things I study. Does this mean Georgetown is "bad"? No, of course not. It's just not a "top-notch" program for politics in general.

[tiffanysims]

I've heard about all of them because I applied to US colleges. However, Duke and Dartmouth (and CMU to a certain extent) have better reputations than the rest.

[Northern_Ireland]

Dartmouth and Duke are the only ones which sound familiar.

[rise17]

The topic might not be relevant anymore to the initiator of the question, but i thought this is interesting.

I have heard of Carnegie-Mellon, Duke and Dartmouth.

Duke is ranked 19 in the QS World Ranking 2011 and Carnegie-Mellon placed ar 43. (I know the ranking tables are all problematic not least for the indicators used for assessment), but I guess it can be considered a good starting point if you want to compare.

I have only heard of Dartmouth because it belongs to Ivy League and I know of a couple of renown academics at Dartmouth (from within my discipline).

By the way, I am from Singapore (Asia) and students from my region look to both UK and US universities for overseas study. Duke is a 'safe' option for it's reputation is very well established (at least for its Mathematics/Sciences and Medicine faculties), even though it's not an ivy league. As for Dartmouth, even though it's an ivy league, its reputation may very well be overshadowed Yale - especially when both are liberal arts colleges.

My two cents worth.