Why English players are overrated

I do agree with you...sort of. There's a premium on English players but I don't think it's because of their level of quality, it's just down to the nationality.

Best English player at the moment Scott Parker? Genuinely laughed out loud. Hard.

Go on then. And by the way, Mertesaker's won about 70 caps....

Off the top of my head, I genuinely can't think of a single English player who's playing better than him.

I can't even be bothered. You're too far gone.

They're not overrated anymore by anyone with any common sence.

I think a major reason as to why most English players play in the PL is because its viewed as one of the top leagues in the world. Playing anywhere else (other than for the likes of Real/Barca) would be a downgrade, and could hamper their chances of getting into the National side. The PL also pays extortionate prices (only matched by the very best of the best European leagues), so either play for Fiorentina/Sevilla/Stuttgart on £10/15.000 a week, or Newcastle/Stoke/Tottenham on £25.000 a week. Take your pick.

The acadamy system is also a complete mess, thanks to the PL and the new rulings will only make that worse.

As most English players play in the PL, we have to factor in the fact that the PL has probably got the most varied amount of playing styles/formations in comparison to any other league. Total football, counter-attack, playing from the back, possession keeping, target man...all can be seen in the PL. Whereas if you watch Serie A, Bundesliga, La Liga, Erdeviser, most teams play in practically the same way.

This is a major strength of the PL as a league, but when it comes to jelling a national team together, with all the players suited to completely differing styles/formations, its a major hinderance. Players from Arsenal all want Total football, Chelsea players play from the back...

Compared to the Bundesliga, where most play the same formation and are incredibly disciplined. Serie A, most of which play on the counter attack. La Liga, where emphasis is on possession/passing. Their acadamies have a similar ethos to each other, so can usually jell very quickly with players from other teams.

Rant over. I'm not getting involved in the Rooney debate.

And he's been terrible at the back for Arsenal, therefore right now, not a good buy.

That couldn't be further from the truth.

Well, just going from what I've seen and what other people have said (a lot of people have thought he's had a poor start, I saw Paul Ince moaning about him on Football Focus today). A lot more solid when Vermaelen is playing.

If a world class player is someone who is one of the best 2 or 3 players in his position in the world then Rooney is not world class.

I'm sure Wenger said that Rooney was the best young talent he had seen in all the years he has been in England.

Scott Parker (£6m) or Juan Sebastian Veron (£28m)?
The fact that English teams are consistently competing for the Champions League trophy; the fact that English teams can attract some of the best European talent and the fact that the English league is one of the best in the world lead to a sense of delusion about the England national team.

Here we go. Add another to the 'I'm English but for some reason HATE English players, the league, national team'.

For a start, Messi and Rooney are the same when it comes to national teams. Neither has done **** all in big tournaments/matches! FACT.

What you're using there is what the current manager picks. Would you have classed Owen of 6, 7 years ago as world class? Probably not. Would you have classed ANY past English players as class? And I don't understand this 'Overrated' thing anyway, of course they're going to be bigged up but it's always in crap such as the Sun anyway, so why take it as fact that everybody believes we have the best players in the world?

English players don't move abroad because there are hardly any English players. People like you who are obsessed with foreign players as they're 'new' and 'exciting'. Therefore there's none of our's good enough to move abroad.

Yeah neg it, you're all tapped, don't like it, move to Spain and support them. Gloryhunters. Same thing.

Rooney deserves his credit he is absolutelt out of this world
THE MOST unique striker in the world
He can play so deep yet still score and assist goals
there is no player in the world that can bring to a team what rooney does

of course he doesnt get much recognition here because most rival teams of man utd hate him but around the world from neutral point of views he is seen as one of the top 5 players in the world

The prof does have a sense of humour you know.

So you have to move to the country that you support IN FOOTBALL? Come on, that seems a bit childish.