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    britain in the past 500 years has obviously contributed most.

    lets say the modern world was born with the invention of the internal combustion engine in england. almost everything that has come after that was invented in the the west which was led by britain and now its former colony america.
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    (Original post by RyanT)
    No, what I said was maths has moved on and calculators have rendered a lot of "by hand" obsolute. Neither points you contested, you just invented a strawman and ranted hence why I didn't bother to reply.


    "Many of the "older" developments in technology were shared or had multiple origins, but the successes of European civilization in the last few hundred years are purely those of Europeans. "



    It doesn't matter what Asia or the near east developed independently, what matters from a Euro perspective is how it reached us. The maths we used was mostly the work of the ancient greeks same for engineering being "home grown". Physics? That was still artistolean until Newton came along (again, entirely euro..regardless of what went on elsewhere), chemistry? The modern science is entirely European.

    My point is that much of the ancient tech used by Europeans came from European cultures anyway. Not saying entirely exclusively, but it is significantly European. This combined with their modern achievements makes it very clear who is the global civilizational hyperpower. There is a reason we captured the entire of the western hemisphere.





    I get the impression you have an emotional investment in pretending that Europeans haven't cast a great shadow over world history. If there was a certain amount of global cultural development prior to the 1500s in Europe...then since then Europeans have created many multiple times more culture and knowledge. Nobody has had a stronger influence in world history then the Europeans.
    Erm what?

    The numer system, concept of zero etc as we know it all came from India via the Persians and Arabs. Much of the methodology behind the Scientific method again came from Persia and the Arabs.

    Our philosophy developed largely thanks to Arabic and Syriac translations and commentaries. In the west we were pissing about with amateurs like Plato and Aristotle when they were commenting on actual decent philosophers like Epikourous and Lavanios.

    Greece itself formed a culture band (kulturband) with Anatolia specifically and the Near East/Egypt in general. The concept of civilisations like that being "European" in the sense of "North Europe" is absolutely absurd.

    Stick to....whatever the hell it is you do outside of being an ass on here and leave the ancient world to those who actually study and learn from primary sources at reputable institutions.
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    (Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
    Western civilization.

    Philosophy (always dominated philosophy both historically and modern)
    Science (Einstein, Newton, Schrödinger, James D. Watson, Robert Edwards etc)
    Culture (fast food, classical music, sky scrappers, global language, UN, etc etc)
    Technology (internet, television, telephone, automobile, light bulb etc etc).
    You can't just say 'Western Culture', thats cheating.
    If thats your arguement Britain is the one who has dont a majority of those things you've listed.
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    Any afro caribbean made the list ?
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    Indian civilsation of course.
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    Most people on this thread speak out of their arses.

    Just because you learnt about those civilisations in school does not mean they have made the greatest influence.
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    (Original post by Stanza)
    Most people on this thread speak out of their arses.

    Just because you learnt about those civilisations in school does not mean they have made the greatest influence.
    Your right, look how celebrity chavs are changing our nation.
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    The scottish. :cool:
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    (Original post by GETREALDOOD)
    Your right, look how celebrity chavs are changing our nation.
    TSR has never failed to bang on about chavs on a thread. They are like virus, bloody everywhere.

    Ay, you, leave chavs outta dis 1 innit!
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    Different periods of civilization contributed to different time. Before Jesus it was the Ancient Greeks, Egyptians and the Chinese I would think.

    Then slowly it reached the likes of the Middle East with Syria, Macedonia, Persians, Moors etc

    Then more recently like in 1500 it expanded to the West comprising of England, Germany, France, Italy, Russia.

    And now with the US, China, Russia.

    But if you're looking for Scientific, technological changed a lot has come from Germany with the likes of Von Neumann, Einstein, Mozart, Beethoven and countless other scientist these couple of centuries. And I think the Greeks with it's early numbering system spreading from the Muslim nations such as Omar Kayyam helped pioneer the basic maths tools we use in modern day.
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    (Original post by Casshern1456)

    And I think the Greeks with it's early numbering system spreading from the Muslim nations such as Omar Kayyam helped pioneer the basic maths tools we use in modern day.

    Early numbering system came from asia.
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    (Original post by I-Am-A-Tripod)
    Early numbering system came from asia.
    That's what I meant, sorry. Greeks like Aristotle and Plato helped lay and develop in subjects like philosophy, maths, logic and science. Numbering system came from Asia.
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    (Original post by vwsl93)
    Technology
    Ancient China.

    (Original post by vwsl93)
    Science
    The UK (then again that could just be my patriotism kicking in).

    (Original post by vwsl93)
    Culture
    The Romans.

    (Original post by vwsl93)
    Philosophy
    Ancient Greece.
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    (Original post by yun)
    well wikipedia begs to differ.....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

    it would be interesting to weigh up all these "glorious european contributions" against the crap that has come out of europe over the time...
    what crap would this be?
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    Ancient Greece
    The Roman Empire
    The renaiisance
    The British empire

    are probably the most worthy mentions.

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