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Original post by blueray
Why? What do you want to do for uni?


I don't get to choose, and the school makes us do S1, S2, M1, M2 and M3 for double maths. I want to do Economics though.
Original post by ElMoro
Thanks anyway, Arva :smile: How ya been? :biggrin:


No problem. I've been good thanks - I'm finishing up my core maths revision today. I just need to do a couple of C4 papers and the hardest will be over. C1-3 are completely fine with 2 past-papers in each.
Original post by wcp100
I would show it to you know. But there is no margin:tongue:


Haha :tongue:
I doubt he actually wrote the proof in the margin, considering how long Wiles' proof was.
Original post by wcp100
If you note. The SUVAT equations are, or can be, derived from calculus. You are never penalised for knowing more than is required.


Really? Because this is what I was worrying over.

The markscheme doesn't seem to credit (or at least mention) the use of calculus. So if I were to make some silly accuracy error I think I'd lose all the method marks. I've asked some teachers who seem to think it's better if I don't use calculus in light of this and that if I were to use calculus the examiner would assume I'm resitting the unit.

It would be nice though; it's far faster.
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Original post by Lily Academia
Really? Because this is what I was worrying over.


Indeed. As long as you don't go loco and use 3rd year uni maths, you'll be fine.

Markschemes only contain anticipated and common approaches - cases like these are dealt with individually

Hope this helps :wink2:
Original post by ElMoro
Indeed. As long as you don't go loco and use 3rd year uni maths, you'll be fine.

Markschemes only contain anticipated and common approaches - cases like these are dealt with individually

Hope this helps :wink2:


I forgot to ask how you've been - most of your GCSEs are coming up soon right?
Original post by Appeal to reason
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Original post by Lily Academia
Really? Because this is what I was worrying over.

The markscheme doesn't seem to credit (or at least mention) the use of calculus. So if I were to make some silly accuracy error I think I'd lose all the method marks. I've asked some teachers who seem to think it's better if I don't use calculus in light of this and that if I were to use calculus the examiner would assume I'm resitting the unit.

It would be nice though; it's far faster.


Personally I wouldn't risk it. You may or may not get method marks if you are wrong.
Original post by ElMoro
Indeed. As long as you don't go loco and use 3rd year uni maths, you'll be fine.

Markschemes only contain anticipated and common approaches - cases like these are dealt with individually

Hope this helps :wink2:


I've seen people on the STEP thread using uni maths. It's complete overkill imo.
Original post by ArsLongaVitaBrevis
C3 and C4 calculus makes C1 and C2 calculus so much easier - am I allowed to use the product, quotient and chain rules etc to solve AS questions? The same goes for the scalar product and Mechanics 1 vector questions.


I don't see any real need to, but if its correct, I don't see why they'd not give you the marks. I'm fairly sure you still get all the marks for getting the end answer unless it specifically says "Show that...".
Not sure I've seen any aside from the trapezium rule questions (in which case you'd get 0 marks for working out the exact answer, unless you were only doing it to check you were in the right ballpark), or those tagged onto a binomial expansion question that you could really use them on.
As far as I remember the majority of it in C1 and C2 was straight forward.
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Original post by Rainingshame
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Original post by Lily Academia
It would be nice though; it's far faster.


SUVAT questions really don't take long at all though, you'd be saving seconds, maybe a minute at best.
I agree with wcp, I don't think its worth the risk.
Original post by wcp100
Personally I wouldn't risk it. You may or may not get method marks if you are wrong.


The solution is to not be wrong. :cool:

I'm joking of course. I probably won't risk my idea either.
Original post by Appeal to reason
I don't see any real need to, but if its correct, I don't see why they'd not give you the marks. I'm fairly sure you still get all the marks for getting the end answer unless it specifically says "Show that...".
Not sure I've seen any aside from the trapezium rule questions (in which case you'd get 0 marks for working out the exact answer, unless you were only doing it to check you were in the right ballpark), or those tagged onto a binomial expansion question that you could really use them on.
As far as I remember the majority of it in C1 and C2 was straight forward.


Thanks for the advice. I loathe the trapezium rule. In C4, with all the new integration techniques we learn, it is absolutely pointless, a sort of filler to add marks to the test.

Can't complain though, it's a guaranteed 6 or so marks.
Original post by ArsLongaVitaBrevis
C3 and C4 calculus makes C1 and C2 calculus so much easier - am I allowed to use the product, quotient and chain rules etc to solve AS questions? The same goes for the scalar product and Mechanics 1 vector questions.


If I'm ever helping out with C1/C2 stuff I do the C3/4 methods for fun, but they're always a lot more time consuming, because the AS content is so basic in comparison.
You could always use it as a check though :smile:
Original post by ArsLongaVitaBrevis
Thanks for the advice. I loathe the trapezium rule. In C4, with all the new integration techniques we learn, it is absolutely pointless, a sort of filler to add marks to the test.

Can't complain though, it's a guaranteed 6 or so marks.


The trapiziem rule is a waste we did it in core 2 the day before our exam, all you have to do is understand what the equation in the formula booklet means and punch in some numbers.
Original post by Rainingshame
The trapiziem rule is a waste we did it in core 2 the day before our exam, all you have to do is understand what the equation in the formula booklet means and punch in some numbers.


I know, how stupid.
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Hey, how are your a-levels going? :smile:
Original post by Heptapus
Hey, how are your a-levels going? :smile:


Hi. They're good thanks (apart from that pesky C4 trig integration section). How about yours?
Original post by ArsLongaVitaBrevis
Hi. They're good thanks (apart from that pesky C4 trig integration section). How about yours?


Ahh maths. I love maths.

Mine are going well thank you, been doing past papers. Hoping to do another soon.

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