[zubz91]

(Original post by Gridiron-Gangster)
Mosside is a bit of a trek from Oxford Road and if you're a uni student and walking down there then you're asking for trouble.

Wilmslow Road isn't particularly notorious but as I said before there's always a first time and I wouldn't recommend turning down some of those dark roads especially at night or near where the old Maine Road stadium used to be.

I mean seriously the way some people are talking on here it's as if people get shot all the time in Manchester. Ridiculous. This ain't the Wild West or anything and drawing pistols at noon or anything of the sort.

To be honest if you go looking for trouble then inevitably trouble will find you.

There's no reason for students to be going down places like Longsight, Mosside, Newton Heath, Hulme, Levenshulme and Wythenshawe which are generally the roughest areas.

Also just to point out Salford is notorious for crime and it didn't help that poor Anuj was walking around there at 1:30am.

Having lived in Manc all my life there are some places I won't even walk around after 11pm or even during the day nevermind Salford at going on 2am.

Common sense. If it's 1am or later get a cab back to your place rather than walking back. If you're hungry grab a quick bite and head off. If there's nothing around (highly unlikely) then just go straight on home, don't walk around for a kebab.

thats what im implying, just making him aware that there are some areas that are a bit notorious so theres no need for students to go there. rest is fine

[Aemiliana]

(Original post by srascal8)
No honestly, I'm not, I'm just concerned. But I've been reassured by the posts on this thread. As long as I stay in student areas, I should be fine right? Sorry if I'm being pedantic, its just this seems like a racial attack and its something that caught my attention, particularly because I want to study in the area.

At every uni, in every city, hell even in some arse-end of the country hamlet, bad stuff happens. People get hurt. The uni, like any uni, looks out for their students - attack alarms, making them aware of the dangers of walking home alone at night, which taxi firms to use etc.

Just chill, it's fine. Yes, some people are attacked, but that happens everywhere. My brother was attacked in a tiny village where the majority of people are over 60, for example.

For what it's worth, I love Manchester and generally feel fine and perfectly safe here. I did once have to deal with the police (for something more funny and creepy than potentially dangerous) and they were super helpful and even increased patrols in my area to make us feel safer and were very insistent on following things up etc.

[EllaService]

(Original post by A Mysterious Lord)
Salford isn't Manchester

I spent three years there and no hint of trouble - don't go looking for it and you won't find it.



Moss Side isn't actually that bad, it's just down to the reputation it gained in the 1980s. Any problems with gangs etc are almost exclusively between other gangs, they don't attack 'outsiders' (especially students) as it's just unwanted police attention - also the areas around both universities are heavily policed.

Salford patently *is* part of Manchester, like it or not. The shooting did not even really happen in Salford as such, it was on a main road corner close to the ring road and a much-frequented Macadees - anyone could really have been passing there. Yes, walking around in parts of Manchester late at night is a bit risky tbh. And yes, Manchester does, like it or not, have a fair number of shootings and miscellaneous murders. It's not as bad as it was some years ago, but it is pretty bad.

I think some people from Manchester are overly defensive about this and avoiding looking at what life is like in the City doesn't help. The fact is that substantial central areas of Manchester are full of highly disturbed, potentially violent individuals, drug dealers and criminals. Life is not a bed of roses in quite large areas of the city and not just Salford.

I do think maps ought to be distributed to students in Manchester and in hotels (the poor guy was killed was a stranger to the area staying in one of the hotels nearby) showing areas not to go, as in US cities like LA.

[AllisonAdorkable]

Manchester's safe.

It's the poor souls studying in Salford that everyone should be worried about.

[srascal8]

(Original post by EllaService)
Salford patently *is* part of Manchester, like it or not. The shooting did not even really happen in Salford as such, it was on a main road corner close to the ring road and a much-frequented Macadees - anyone could really have been passing there. Yes, walking around in parts of Manchester late at night is a bit risky tbh. And yes, Manchester does, like it or not, have a fair number of shootings and miscellaneous murders. It's not as bad as it was some years ago, but it is pretty bad.

I think some people from Manchester are overly defensive about this and avoiding looking at what life is like in the City doesn't help. The fact is that substantial central areas of Manchester are full of highly disturbed, potentially violent individuals, drug dealers and criminals. Life is not a bed of roses in quite large areas of the city and not just Salford.

I do think maps ought to be distributed to students in Manchester and in hotels (the poor guy was killed was a stranger to the area staying in one of the hotels nearby) showing areas not to go, as in US cities like LA.

Well, from what I've read from posters, it seems that there are 'certain' areas to avoid, and in other areas, you are far less likely to get attacked. I think the student areas are fine, and yes, there probably are 1 or 2 attacks, murders or viscous crimes against students in student areas sound rare to me, particularly very violent crimes.

I think the problems start when you wonder off into the working class white areas of Manchester which are filled with gangs + hate groups looking for sections of society to blame for their own misgivings. I think the city centre is safe, contrary to what you think. I am talking murder here, not theft or muggings; which can occur almost anywhere. I think the chances of being killed in and around the shopping/student districts are extremely slim and as people have said there are frequent police patrols around the universities. I appreciate Salford is basically border Manchester City Centre, but it is still separate, hence they are two different cities, I do think there is a dividing line. I still don't know what that fella was doing wondering around at 1.35am, that's asking for trouble in any city to be honest. But it was the cold nature of the murder, very much planned from the sounds of it, but I guess you shouldn't take the racial element out of perspective; it was most likely some poor working class kid who has been indoctrinated into thinking immigrants and foreigners are why he is where he is today.

I think you've exaggerated the crime levels in Manchester City Centre.

[A Mysterious Lord]

(Original post by srascal8)
I think the problems start when you wonder off into the working class white areas of Manchester which are filled with gangs + hate groups looking for sections of society to blame for their own misgivings.

Absolute rubbish - "working class white areas", you're borderline racist.

From my time in Manchester, the worst areas are:

Moss Side - majority Black/Asian

Openshaw - majority Black (I was walking through Openshaw on the way back from Stalybridge one night and the Police stopped me and gave me a lift into Manchester, saying it was "not somewhere someone like me should be walking round at that time of night")

Longsight - majority Asian

Levenshulme - majority Asian

The "working class white areas" such as Hyde, Stretford, Salford and Trafford Park are fine by comparison.

[EllaService]

(Original post by srascal8)
Well, from what I've read from posters, it seems that there are 'certain' areas to avoid, and in other areas, you are far less likely to get attacked. I think the student areas are fine, and yes, there probably are 1 or 2 attacks, murders or viscous crimes against students in student areas sound rare to me, particularly very violent crimes.

I think the problems start when you wonder off into the working class white areas of Manchester which are filled with gangs + hate groups looking for sections of society to blame for their own misgivings. I think the city centre is safe, contrary to what you think. I am talking murder here, not theft or muggings; which can occur almost anywhere. I think the chances of being killed in and around the shopping/student districts are extremely slim and as people have said there are frequent police patrols around the universities. I appreciate Salford is basically border Manchester City Centre, but it is still separate, hence they are two different cities, I do think there is a dividing line. I still don't know what that fella was doing wondering around at 1.35am, that's asking for trouble in any city to be honest. But it was the cold nature of the murder, very much planned from the sounds of it, but I guess you shouldn't take the racial element out of perspective; it was most likely some poor working class kid who has been indoctrinated into thinking immigrants and foreigners are why he is where he is today.

I think you've exaggerated the crime levels in Manchester City Centre.

Sorry, I said "central areas of Manchester", meaning the areas that surround the City Centre, not the shopping parts of the centre but the other "central" areas. Obviously the City Centre itself is relatively pleasant on the whole but I've noticed some pretty bad behaviour there as well at times and no visible police presence. I was thinking though about the parts just outside the central ring road.

Salford isn't a separate "city" other than traditionally; it completely forms part of the main urban area and a stranger driving out on one of the main roads would never notice they were in a different place.

The problem for those students and others staying in the City is that they were in one of the modern hotels that have been built on the edges of "Salford" and so they were lulled into a false sense of security. It's actually a bit of a deception by the authorities in Manchester, because they have built posh flats, modern hotels and facilities like Media City all close to very deprived areas full of deranged individuals but they don't warn people about this. There should be large signs up warning people not to venture out of their shiny hotels except with guards or in armoured vehicles.

[srascal8]

(Original post by EllaService)
Sorry, I said "central areas of Manchester", meaning the areas that surround the City Centre, not the shopping parts of the centre but the other "central" areas. Obviously the City Centre itself is relatively pleasant on the whole but I've noticed some pretty bad behaviour there as well at times and no visible police presence. I was thinking though about the parts just outside the central ring road.

Salford isn't a separate "city" other than traditionally; it completely forms part of the main urban area and a stranger driving out on one of the main roads would never notice they were in a different place.

The problem for those students and others staying in the City is that they were in one of the modern hotels that have been built on the edges of "Salford" and so they were lulled into a false sense of security. It's actually a bit of a deception by the authorities in Manchester, because they have built posh flats, modern hotels and facilities like Media City all close to very deprived areas full of deranged individuals but they don't warn people about this. There should be large signs up warning people not to venture out of their shiny hotels except with guards or in armoured vehicles.

exaggerated the last bit but I see your point

[srascal8]

(Original post by A Mysterious Lord)
Absolute rubbish - "working class white areas", you're borderline racist.

From my time in Manchester, the worst areas are:

Moss Side - majority Black/Asian

Openshaw - majority Black (I was walking through Openshaw on the way back from Stalybridge one night and the Police stopped me and gave me a lift into Manchester, saying it was "not somewhere someone like me should be walking round at that time of night")

Longsight - majority Asian

Levenshulme - majority Asian

The "working class white areas" such as Hyde, Stretford, Salford and Trafford Park are fine by comparison.

Well, its subjective as to where you think the worse areas are, and will depend on what colour/race you are as well. This murder occurred in Salford, and many have said its a rough area, you don't hear on the news of a group of white lads being walked up to at 1.35am, and then one of them being shot dead in the head at point blank range.

[thisusername]

a lot of people on here are confusing commuter towns on the outskirts of the metropolitan area with regions of what would be considered the city. you're not going to stumble into bolton or oldham on a drunk walk from from a club unless you fall into a taxi and expressly ask them to drive you 15 miles.

all cities have good and bad areas, and stumbling into a bad one by no means gets you shot, regardless of what colour your skin is. conversely, wandering around looking very nervous and clutching the brand new ipad you waxed your student loan on WILL get you mugged, even on the "oxford road corridor" that you all seem to think is completely safe. so if you're that sheltered that you've even asked these questions maybe a city simply isn't for you. if you can get a grip of some common sense you'll be fine.

speaking as someone who has been mugged/attacked by people of all shapes and colours can we please put this race stuff to bed, poverty and/or cretinous human beings are the issue here.

[xtinalouise]

(Original post by srascal8)
what?! were they okay/found safely? thats nasty!

Oh yeah I remember that, it was like this time last year that men were picking young girls up and putting them in their vans. A few girls got took away.

[The_Male_Melons]

(Original post by srascal8)
Following the brutal racial attack on the Indian kid in Salford, I'm questioning whether it would be right to go to Manchester now.

Is racist behaviour common in Manchester itself, or is it an outskirts problem? Would I walk back from a club one night and be shot in the head by a White guy with a handgun? I thought this behaviour left Britain a while ago and on boxing day, shocking. Would you say as long as you avoid Stockport/ Salford/ burnley you will be safe? Any other RACIST areas of Manchester you could inform me of? Is Manchester city multicultural and the outskirts ethnic death traps?

Cheers, just dubious.

Manchester is not racist.

Following your logic, I would be in trouble every time, 1. Muslim 2. Brown face (British Pakistani) and 3. Scouser.

I never experienced any trouble. No one has harmed me or anything.

To be honest, your post sounds quite racist.

[Ellul92]

TO ANYONE THINKING ABOUT STUDYING IN MANCHESTER

Its great

I had my doubts just like you, I'm not even from the UK so I was even more cautious. The truth is once you settle in you learn where to steer clear of. Its not like if you go down the wrong street you'll get shot or stabbed but you do need to use your head (its not that hard).

Thats all it is really a bit of common sense. Don't walk alone late at night in the city, DO NOT GO THROUGH PARKS AT NIGHT EVEN IF YOU ARE WITH FRIENDS.

If you go looking for trouble you will find it but thats if you make an effort to do something stupid. I mean its a city and there are lots of different kinds of people, you'd expect there to be some people who don't necessarily like you! (to put it lightly)

What its really like is:
> In the day its safe, no real need to worry (unless you hang about in moss side ect) You go to uni, the shops, bars, supermarket, wander around the city.. wherever its fine, you have no need to go to salford ect..
> In the night when you go out, the majority of pubs/clubs are close to oxford road or closer to city centre/deansgate and there will always be a crowd of people in the streets so you're not alone, you can get home via bus - less than 2 quid or even get a taxi which is not that expensive either.

Its a great place to study and all the fun interesting places you'd want to go are well out of the way of any dodgy areas. There are some really cool places to go out in manchester and we're always discovering new and interesting bars ect to spend the night at. I wouldn't miss an opportunity to study here if I were you!


Hope this clears things up.

Andrew

[medic86]

As an international student and living in manchester city centre, I can't see any racism encountered here, not as much I seen from the scousers in Liverpool.

Manchester is quite safe place, if you play it safe. There are bit deprived areas I have to say not necessarily racist, but I can't feel myself living there, such as salford, rusholme, levenshulme, moston.

However, you can live in Didsbury, fallowfield, Withington, Sale which have nice posh areas there. If you wanted to stay in Salford, then Salford Quays would you be your bet. If you preferred to stay close to city centre, I lived here for 3 years, and it's VERY SAFE.

[audiohabit]

(Original post by Origami Bullets)
Hi,

I'm at uni in Manchester, but I'm white, so I haven't experienced any racism.

HOWEVER, the area in which the student was shot was not a student area - it's in Salford which (although it is part of Greater Manchester) is not actually in Manchester, and not an area that UoM students would normally have any reason to go to.

Many UoM students live their entire 3 years on the 'Oxford Road corridor' which is essentially Didsbury / Fallowfield / Rusholme & Curry Mile / Uni / City Centre.

Fallowfield is almost exclusively populated by students, and therefore it is a pretty safe area.

Rusholme & the Curry Mile is populated in the main by South Asians, with some people from Arab countries thrown in, along with a few students. The 'Curry Mile' is so called because it's literally a mile full of Indian takeaways, ethnic supermarkets and shops with names like 'World of Islam'.

Didsbury is quite white and middle class, and a fair few students live their in their second and third years. Definitely not crime-ridden though!

Moss Side is nearby and should generally be avoided, but it's not nearly as fearsome as its reputation would suggest (it's been cleaned up a lot in recent years).

The student who was shot in Manchester wasn't actually studying in Manchester, and I gather that he and his friends had got lost and wandered into a rather dodgy area. It's the first shooting or stabbing that I have heard of since I have been in Manchester, and frankly it isn't going to make me stop going out at night.

At the end of the day, I suspect it was just one of those "**** happens" things which you can't predict / protect yourself against, no matter where you live. Heck, I'm originally from a small, semi-rural village with a population of 5000 or so, and we've had two murders in the last three years

spot on that mate ...manchester is a great place to live ,but theres good and bad everywhere ...

[ChemGraduate]

Yes, it is safe. Murders happen everywhere.