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Should Psychology be accepted as a science?

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No.
Reply 81
Original post by morecambebay
Anything to add?


He's laughing because what you said is a contradiction to what Psychology is, so it was extremely evident you'd never studied it.

See Cognitive Approach.
It totally depends on the aspects of psychology you study. Some theories in psychology are just that, theories. They don't have scientific backing. However, reputable evidence from studies into neurotransmitters in the brain has been very beneficial for developing treatments for depression, for example. Psychology is quite closely linked with biology, however as I already stated, it depends on what you actually study.

People who have no idea what the subject entails and assume it's about society and nothing more are simply wrong. People are looked at on an individual basis and as part of society, not one or the other. There are so many unanswered questions so it would be silly to leave out certain methods considered "non-scientific" if they are the most effective for that particular research.

If all you studied were social aspects of psychology, it is a social science. If you concentrated on biological and cognitive psychology, it would be a science.
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Reply 83
Original post by SpicyStrawberry
It totally depends on the aspects of psychology you study. Some theories in psychology are just that, theories. They don't have scientific backing. However, reputable evidence from studies into neurotransmitters in the brain has been very beneficial for developing treatments for depression, for example. Psychology is quite closely linked with biology, however as I already stated, it depends on what you actually study.

People who have no idea what the subject entails and assume it's about society and nothing more are simply wrong. People are looked at on an individual basis and as part of society, not one or the other. There are so many unanswered questions so it would be silly to leave out certain methods considered "non-scientific" if they are the most effective for that particular research.

If all you studied were social aspects of psychology, it is a social science. If you concentrated on biological and cognitive psychology, it would be a science.


And behaviourist
Original post by Miracle Day
And behaviourist


Just giving a couple of examples, but yes that too :smile:
Yes. Psychology utilises the scientific method and key tenets of science, such as empiricism, hypothesis testing and suchlike. It is just as valid a science as the more canonical ones. Theories are validated using the experimental method and statistical significance of figures gathered. It is not simply uninformed posturing regarding the mind.
Original post by NutterFrutter
No.


You know that you're going to have to back that up somehow.
Original post by KingMessi

Original post by KingMessi
You know that you're going to have to back that up somehow.


Original post by NutterFrutter


He thinks more highly of sticking electrodes in your brain and monitoring her responses to companionship. So what, you think that cognitive psychology is okay? But social psychology is hokum?

Look, psychology is broad. Some is science, some is social science. You can't talk about it all in one brush stroke.
Original post by lightburns

Original post by lightburns
He thinks more highly of sticking electrodes in your brain and monitoring her responses to companionship. So what, you think that cognitive psychology is okay? But social psychology is hokum?

Look, psychology is broad. Some is science, some is social science. You can't talk about it all in one brush stroke.


:toofunny:
Original post by NutterFrutter


I don't quite understand how this provides proof of Psychology not being a science. Of course, psychologists do employ questionnaires and suchlike to acquire data, and yes, it is the study of human behaviour. But, as Sheldon says, short of putting electrodes into people's heads, it's the best, often, that they can do. Conducting science on the mind of human beings becomes problematic because of the issue of rights - especially as people get very worked up about the idea that we can delineate the workings of the mind.

But, psychology isn't merely handing out questionnaires of how people make friends and crazy Freudian theories about sex - have you studied it? The same methods and rigour are used to test psychological theories as they would be for theories in the fields of Physics, Biology or Chemistry.
I'm sure this has already been posted but it needs to be shown again.

Original post by PeeWeeDan
Regrettably Feynmann once defined science as a subject that relies on observation and experiment, so I suppose it qualifies. He did go on to stress that being a science isn't necessarily a merit as some "sciences" were simply less rigorous(see:Psychology) than others :p:

Although maybe Social Science is more appropriate?


Original post by Miracle Day
He's laughing because what you said is a contradiction to what Psychology is, so it was extremely evident you'd never studied it.

See Cognitive Approach.


So answer the question then. Why does the study of the mind get its own subject? How is it different from the study of the heart or the lungs or the kidneys? Why isnt it just biology?

To justify psychology as its own subject, there would need to be something special about the mind that gives it a pedestal. If that pedestal isnt there, psychology slips into biology.
Reply 94
Original post by morecambebay
So answer the question then. Why does the study of the mind get its own subject? How is it different from the study of the heart or the lungs or the kidneys? Why isnt it just biology?

To justify psychology as its own subject, there would need to be something special about the mind that gives it a pedestal. If that pedestal isnt there, psychology slips into biology.




Psychology doesnt study human behaviour. The brain therefore the mind is the most important part of the body
Reply 95
id say no as it has elements of social science the same as geography.
Original post by Miracle Day
Psychology doesnt study human behaviour. The brain therefore the mind is the most important part of the body


What? And it doesnt follow anyway.

Psychology does study human behaviour, but it is only your subjective opinion that says that it is the most important thing.
Reply 97
Original post by Miracle Day
Agreed.

It is a Science of the mind.
It uses Scientific methods in other words uses research and empirical data to answer theories, make predictions and try to explain a phenomena.


Science of the mind is neuroscience.
If you draw direct and logical parallels (that can be used to make predictions that are consistently true) between behavior and the structure of the brain thats science.

Give us some examples of this in as or a2 psycology.
Original post by 3.141
Science of the mind is neuroscience.
If you draw direct and logical parallels (that can be used to make predictions that are consistently true) between behavior and the structure of the brain thats science.

Give us some examples of this in as or a2 psycology.


No, that's not true. The scientific method does indeed rely on creating predictions that can then be tested to form theories, but there's no requirement that that has to be about the structure of the brain. Simply put, empiricism is a key tenet of science and psychology.

However, seeing as you've asked for a logical parallel between behaviour and brain structure, I can give you one from A2 AQA Psychology. Behaviour implies that romantic love is homogeneous across all cultures; this led Aron et al. (2005) to predict that there may be a brain region associated with romantic love, that has evolved for this purpose. When they conducted fMRI scans on people who claimed to experience romantic love being shown pictures of their partners/ talking about their partners, the ventral tegmental area consistently lit up on the scans, supporting the prediction. Example of empiricism.
Reply 99
Original post by KingMessi
No, that's not true. The scientific method does indeed rely on creating predictions that can then be tested to form theories, but there's no requirement that that has to be about the structure of the brain. Simply put, empiricism is a key tenet of science and psychology.

However, seeing as you've asked for a logical parallel between behaviour and brain structure, I can give you one from A2 AQA Psychology. Behaviour implies that romantic love is homogeneous across all cultures; this led Aron et al. (2005) to predict that there may be a brain region associated with romantic love, that has evolved for this purpose. When they conducted fMRI scans on people who claimed to experience romantic love being shown pictures of their partners/ talking about their partners, the ventral tegmental area consistently lit up on the scans, supporting the prediction. Example of empiricism.

And that is a textbook example of neuroscience.
Shouldn't your thread be renamed 'Should neuroscience be accepted as a science?' which it is.
The probably with psycology is that it adds a whole lot more baggage that causes instant suspicion amongst scientists.

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