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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.It's ridiculous that US law can take precedence over UK law over an action committed in the UK; being allies does not equate to being accountable to their law. If he can't be tried under UK law then he should be let go, the fact that his action offends those in another country is not of any consequence. Would the UK courts pay any attention if Iran requested that all the UK's adulterers - who can't be tried under UK law - instead be sent to Iran so they can be tried under Iranian law and then stoned, because their action offends Iranian culture? What's more, I can hardly see a US citizen being extradited to the UK for linking to torrents of Doctor Who or Top Gear episodes, or whatever.
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Re: US successful in extraditing UK citizenLol, you're funny(Original post by Otkem)
He encouraged it, which in my eyes is sufficient for the electric chair.
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.I don't see Google being charged? Bing being charged? This is an outrage and i hope if it does get to the highest court and it gets over turn, the chance of it getting to the two highest courts is small
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.If he's so innocent why doesn't he just go there and plead his case?(Original post by FinalMH)
I don't see Google being charged? Bing being charged? This is an outrage and i hope if it does get to the highest court and it gets over turn, the chance of it getting to the two highest courts is small
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.disgusting behaviour... and of course he will have a fair trial in the states? WTF how can our governement do this, he is a BRITISH CITIZEN!!!!! f-ing pigs!!
this actually sickens me! why is our government so far up americas arse?!?!?! -
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.Because the lawyers fighting for him to be sent to the US lie and distort the truth about how sites like his work and judges don't tend to understand how sites like the one created by this guy work.(Original post by Iso Herrk)
If he's so innocent why doesn't he just go there and plead his case? -
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.Wasn't his site shut down multiple times, he was warned multiple times and yet instead of shutting it down he sprang it up elsewhere? WTF(Original post by gateshipone)
Because the lawyers fighting for him to be sent to the US lie and distort the truth about how sites like his work and judges don't tend to understand how sites like the one created by this guy work. -
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.Dunno about the history of the site, but I do know how it works and it's not illegal. Just because he's asked to shut it down doesn't mean he has to, again, it's not illegal to link to stuff. If it were then Google, Bing, Yahoo and a million other sites would have to be shut down.(Original post by Iso Herrk)
Wasn't his site shut down multiple times, he was warned multiple times and yet instead of shutting it down he sprang it up elsewhere? WTF -
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.He can't claim ignornace though which has been one of his defences, for people who know the case and the history they know he's talking codswallop. What he should have done immediately was seek counsel and find out where he stands if he didn't want to comply with what they'd asked, he didn't.(Original post by gateshipone)
Dunno about the history of the site, but I do know how it works and it's not illegal. Just because he's asked to shut it down doesn't mean he has to, again, it's not illegal to link to stuff. If it were then Google, Bing, Yahoo and a million other sites would have to be shut down. -
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US beLulz at the examples.(Original post by Tefhel)
It's pretty ridiculous IMO. If it was a British website, hosted here, and he broke no British law, then how the hell is the US allowed to extradite him if he had nothing to do with the US? Or am I missing something?
Is it not the equivalent of the UAE asking for people to be extradited there for kissing in public in the UK, or us extraditing teenagers from Spain for having sex because their age of consent is 13 and ours is 16? I swear that Team America World Police seems to be getting truer with every passing day.
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US beQuoted for truth.(Original post by Bobifier)
Given his track record, I naturally expect him to be fully behind the extradition. -
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.These were my thoughts exactly. I feel like I should know about extradition laws but I haven't really got the foggiest what they're all about. I figured I must have been missing something because it seemed absurd to me that a UK citizen who has no legal links with America could be tried over there.(Original post by TheImperialist)
He is a British citizen, its a British based website and the crime was committed in Britain. How can he be tried in the United States?
But looking at this thread, apparently this is actually the case... Anybody care to explain?
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.His defense is that what he did was not illegal, which is true. Why should he comply with something when it's not illegal?(Original post by Iso Herrk)
He can't claim ignornace though which has been one of his defences, for people who know the case and the history they know he's talking codswallop. What he should have done immediately was seek counsel and find out where he stands if he didn't want to comply with what they'd asked, he didn't. -
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.(Original post by Craig_D)
linking to torrents of Doctor Who or Top Gear episodes, or whatever.
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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.It was a forum yes, whether that is illegal or not will be a complex question of law, but on the face of it what one can be in no doubt of is that Google/Yahoo etc. are search engines, firstly their raison d'etre isn't to direct you to copyright material, bomb making instructions or child porn, O'Dwyer's site was solely a forum for exchange of copyright material, whether links were provided by him or the users. It didn't have any other purpose.(Original post by gateshipone)
His defense is that what he did was not illegal, which is true. Why should he comply with something when it's not illegal?
Google/Yahoo can serve many purposes illegal/legal, what other purpose did O'Dwyer's site have? If O'Dwyer had been linking sites that let you watch videos of child porn or how to make yourself a homemade car bomb, would that have been OK? (while they were coining it in doing it) They're just as illegal.
Touching on the "linking" assumption, it wasn't just a linking site firstly there was a forum where links could be exchanged by everyone, much unlinke a search engine.
Secondly the "linking" argument can be completely debunked as much of the material was actually embedded into the site, i.e. you went there, just as you do iPlayer and could watch something.Last edited by Iso Herrk; 14-01-2012 at 18:07.
