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Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.(Original post by TheImperialist)
"A British student accused of breaching US copyright could face trial in the United States after a British court ruled that he can be extradited from the UK.
A judge at Westminster Magistrates Court agreed with US prosecutors that 23-year-old Richard O'Dwyer should face trial in America rather than in the UK.
The Sheffield Hallam University undergraduate has been fighting extradition since he was arrested for setting up a website which allowed people access to films and TV shows for free."
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16148629
My question is, on what grounds did the judge agree with the US prosecutors?
He is a British citizen, its a British based website and the crime was committed in Britain. How can he be tried in the United States?
Imagine if Britain did that to a US Citizen!
I'm so happy to know that my country will protect me.
Oh wait... Come on already this stupid unbalanced extradition treaty is stupid, is smacks of the kind of gunboat diplomacy the west forced upon places like imperial China it's just dumb.
Especially in these cases where the alleged crime has basically occurred entirely within the UK and it honestly a UK judicial issue. A case for UK courts to decide warrants trial.
Simply put the US has no jurisdiction over here and the US judicial system does not meet the standards and principles that UK law upholds and pursues, so we shouldn't be so ready to give away our citizens (innocent until proven guilty btw) to foreign countries and left to the mercy of their courts who often (even in the case of the US) can't promise them a fair trial. -
Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US beGoogle doesn't really remove links yet it's being left alone. What I'm saying is that the powers that be have double standards depending on who's linking to pirated material.(Original post by Jamie)
The difference is piratebay deliberately sourced pirated material and would never remove it, whereas this kid would remove all links to illegal material (as proven by his records).
The Americans have every right under the law to extradite and try this kid.
Which is why we need the law to change.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ukho...sa-saverichard
And I totally agree the law needs to be changed. It's ridiculous that the US think they can just take who they want whenever they want. Same with the Megaupload case. -
Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.The trials are fair, its the punishments and threats that are unfair.(Original post by Studentus-anonymous)
I'm so happy to know that my country will protect me.
Oh wait... Come on already this stupid unbalanced extradition treaty is stupid, is smacks of the kind of gunboat diplomacy the west forced upon places like imperial China it's just dumb.
Especially in these cases where the alleged crime has basically occurred entirely within the UK and it honestly a UK judicial issue. A case for UK courts to decide warrants trial.
Simply put the US has no jurisdiction over here and the US judicial system does not meet the standards and principles that UK law upholds and pursues, so we shouldn't be so ready to give away our citizens (innocent until proven guilty btw) to foreign countries and left to the mercy of their courts who often (even in the case of the US) can't promise them a fair trial.
Typically being threatened with huge prison sentences to scare people into settling.
In some cases they will threaten 30 years in prison, but negotiate to 2 years.
Bullying tactics by prosecutors, but the trial aspect themselves are typically no more or les fair than anywhere else in the world. -
Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.
You always hear UKIP and the kind attacking the EU court of human rights, which is in place to protect people's rights, and yet I've never once heard Nigel Farage or his cronies mention this treaty agreement, which is much more of a breach of UK independence than the ECHR.
I honestly cannot see how it is in the slightest acceptable we have such an arrangement with a country that imprisons more people per capita than the USSR under Stalin, with a supreme court that is completely partisan, with a justice system that is not only racist, but fails to meet prisoners basic human rights, and still has capital punishment in place. But oh well, let's just demonise the ECHR which protects workers rights and the like. -
Re: US successful in extraditing UK citizenAvengers made $600m + in the box office. The money that they lost on this film is probably negligible.(Original post by Otkem)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...,7135296.story
I do not have a shred of sympathy for him. He is part of the problem that costs the film industry millions each year, and I hope that he is given a lengthy prison sentence so that it serves as a deterrent.
What do you think? -
Re: British student who created TVShack will be extradited to the US.It'd never happen quite frankly.(Original post by Yuzaeul)
If it was an American citizen that Britain wanted extradited for a similar thing the Americans would be crying about their constitutional freedoms being infringed. One sided much. -
Re: US successful in extraditing UK citizenExactly. What studios need to do is focus on making GOOD movies that people want to see in cinemas and not shovel out crap all the time. The reason Avengers did so well is because it was something people wanted to see and was designed for a massive screen. They also need to combine this with online releases so that people can legally get hold of movies at home closer to their release in cinemas. Unfortunately they're too focused on keeping hold of their old business model instead of doing what audiences want.(Original post by Stasiaxx)
Avengers made $600m + in the box office. The money that they lost on this film is probably negligible.
Sites like TPB, Newzbin and TV Shack prove that audiences want easy access to content in a format that suits them. Taking them down instead of replacing them with legal alternatives is doomed to fail and cases like this one just make people want to hate studios more.Last edited by gateshipone; 27-06-2012 at 13:46. -
Re: US successful in extraditing UK citizenPeople like you just look for negative rep. The only other conclusion I came to is mental deficiency.(Original post by Otkem)
He encouraged it, which in my eyes is sufficient for the electric chair.Last edited by RobertWhite; 27-06-2012 at 13:52.