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The Liverpool FC Thread VII

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    (Original post by Torrresss)
    Hate to say i told you so, but Carroll should have started.

    Spearing was a liability ( I don't like to slate him, he gives it his all, just isn't good enough). Carroll was a menace as soon as he came on.

    No one performed bar Carroll for me, season over, need some exciting signings to get me up for next season.
    Did you tell us so?
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    Especially after there fans booing during the Hillsborough and Morisini minute silence I was really hoping we'd stuff them, couldn't have lost to a more classless team.

    Hopefully the players give the fans a win to cheer about on Tuesday, thought our fans were great.
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    (Original post by Deshi)
    I agree and I was about to quote him as well when I saw it but couldn't be arsed.
    All I can feel atm is complete disappointment tbh
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    If we'd have started Carroll we'd have won that.





    #StatingTheObvious
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    (Original post by Deshi)
    Especially after there fans booing during the Hillsborough and Morisini minute silence I was really hoping we'd stuff them, couldn't have lost to a more classless team.

    Hopefully the players give the fans a win to cheer about on Tuesday, thought our fans were great.
    and your fans booed the national anthem.
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    (Original post by lol_this)
    and your fans booed the national anthem.
    Get a life and stop trolling...
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    (Original post by lol_this)
    and your fans booed the national anthem.

    #ScouseNotEnglish

    Booing during a minutes silence for 96 fans and 1 footballer is definitely 1 million times worse though.

    disrespectful bastards.

    Edit: hahaha neg all you like I couldn't care less. I dare you to reply to it though, have a debate...
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    *sigh* tactics were wrong. On paper they looked right but we set up with either a 4-3-3 or it was Gerrard deep and Henderson attacking.

    Didn't work, Henderson hasn't learnt or can't play with his back to goal. No movement offered up front, Chelsea just dominated us. All we had were lumped balls to Suarez who was in no shape fit for that role.

    So many loose balls from every play. Can't believe how many mistakes there were for Chelsea's goal (credit to them for scoring a great goal). Whoever lost the ball in the first place, Enrique's positioning, Enrique's poor tackle (he should've fouled him or kept up and tried to force him wider), and then Reina getting beat at the near post.

    Once Carroll came on, the tactics suited him and he won most of the balls in the air and was able to bring in other players. Great goal from him though, shows how much more confidence he now has and he put England's best CB (allegedly) onto his backside to score. Massive shame he didn't score another.

    Tbfh, everyone bar Carroll was poor imo. Chelsea got the tactics right and were more ruthless in attack. Disappointed with Skrtel with the Drogba goal.
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    Swap 1 cup for 4th?

    Who would have ever though Andy Carroll would be Liverpool's best player?
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    (Original post by lazy smurf)
    #ScouseNotEnglish
    This isn't twitter
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    (Original post by mhsc)
    This isn't twitter
    #NotBothered
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    Has to be said that Pepe Reina's had a shocking season.
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    The first thing I would like to say is that I am absolutely gutted about the result. Just so utterly disappointed words can't really comprehend the level of it.

    On the actual game though, a few things stood out.

    Our midfield is non existent. In the first half Liverpool passed around the back four until Gerrard would drop deep to come do it all himself and if it wasn't him it was Johnson/Bellamy trying countless long balls up to Suarez who was so isolated it was almost criminal. All of it was just wrong. There was just no urgency, no nothing. Until it was too late that is.

    It was naive and foolish of us to think we could really compete with anyone let alone the experience filled Chelsea squad with a Spearing and Henderson holding the most important part of the pitch. Chelsea were also poor but they still overran us, such was how absolutely terrible we were up until Carroll came on. (Who'd have thought we'd be saying such things eh?)

    Downing. The less said the better.

    I am finding Enriques sudden dip from a monster to a liabiliy to be frightening. He was just shocking. Shocking. Shocking. Everytime he got the ball he'd either make a defensive mistake or slow down the attack ten fold. JUST PASS THE BALL ENRIQUE, PASS THE ****ING BALL! TO ANYONE! TO DALGLISH!

    Carroll's substitution changed the game. He was up for it, his finish was fantastic and full of confidence. Something he would have completely fluffed a few months ago. He was winning everything in the air and he very nearly became a hero (ghost goal). It's a positive sign. More of the same please Andy. Meanwhile Fernando Torres didn't play one minute Sorry had to.

    All in all, I was heartened at the spirit shown in the second half but it came way too late. I was disgusted by the first half performance and couldn't believe what I was seeing. We deserved to lose even if we had the best 30 minutes of the game, it's not acceptable to just not turn up for an entire hour of a f*cking up final.That has to be one of our worst performances of the season and we saved it for our biggest game of the season. Cheers lads.

    Also, Reina. Poor. The game came down to Reina fumbling a timid shot and Cech pulling a monstrous save to keep Chelsea in the game. Fuming. People will be talking about how Reina should look for better options in the summer when the fact is he's been terrible for a while now. Every shot on target is a goal for our opponents. A good goalkeeper keeps you in games and wins you points but lately Reina has cost us.

    I wonder what will happen with Kenny
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    A mate mentioned to me that we're bringing back our old goalkeeping coach. Maybe that would help Reina?
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    A mate mentioned to me that we're bringing back our old goalkeeping coach. Maybe that would help Reina?
    Can't help but think so. Surely being coached by somebody who used to work at Tranmere isn't good enough for a top level keeper like him.
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    Agree with most people's thoughts.

    Chelsea were average and still beat us - they were just clinical and we had no structure in the midfield.

    What the hell was that formation supposed to be first half, looked like no-one had a position.

    As many people have said in the past, Spearing is well out of his depth - again he is young though, I'm not sure if he'll turn into a decent players or not.

    Don't what has happened to Enrique, he was awful today after a great start to the season.

    Bellamy very average.
    Henderson needs to be nurtured into a good player.
    Carroll - As I have said before, he's only young and will come good.(people were talking about getting rid recently)
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    (Original post by milan5baros)
    Agree with most people's thoughts.

    Chelsea were average and still beat us - they were just clinical and we had no structure in the midfield.

    What the hell was that formation supposed to be first half, looked like no-one had a position.

    As many people have said in the past, Spearing is well out of his depth - again he is young though, I'm not sure if he'll turn into a decent players or not.

    Don't what has happened to Enrique, he was awful today after a great start to the season.

    Bellamy very average.
    Henderson needs to be nurtured into a good player.
    Carroll - As I have said before, he's only young and will come good.(people were talking about getting rid recently)
    Spearing is 23, he hasn't been a young player for a while now, just a terrible one.
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    (Original post by Zerforax)
    A mate mentioned to me that we're bringing back our old goalkeeping coach. Maybe that would help Reina?
    I don't even think it's about that. I just think everything he does is half assed these days. It's not even like we allow many shots on goal. It's not like he has a lot to do most games but when he is called upon it's like he decides it's in before it even reaches him and than sticks out a limp arm or leg to get something on it and then proceeds to shout at the back four when truthfully they've been the best thing about this season. Enrique's sudden dip in form apart.
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    Shame about the result. Was really cheering Liverpool on. Hate the plastic Chelsea, and their plastic flags and their terrible unimaginative songs/chants. Their song after they had won sounded like a bloody nursery rhyme ffs!

    It was clear with half hour gone that Carroll had to come on asap. Kuyt was always going to come on lateish. But my god wasn't Carroll good and up for it. Fantastic. Sadly one of the few to really try. Enrique was awful. Kept on messing attacks up and defensively was very poor. Skrtel unlucky with the second goal but i thought both him and Agger looked very solid apart from that. Johnson was good at RB too. Spearing though is woeful. You just wonder if Lucas wasn't out that Liverpool would have won that seeing as both goals came from Spearing losing possession. Henderson was good at patches but terrible mostly. Gerrard was fairly anonymous sadly. Suarez anonymous too, same with Bellamy. And Downing was mostly awful. Yet i thought Enrique ****s it up so much for him overlapping him constantly. And Reina was terrible. He looks nervous and confidence is very low.

    But yeh Andy Carroll fantastic. The only one who really tried was Carroll. He played 110% and you can tell he wants it now. Really thought he was hitting back to Newcastle style form when he came on. I remember watching him earlier in the season and i thought there was a lack of hope for him. He just looked so bad i thought it had gone. But he's back and he should be here next season. Should Kenny? I wondered from the way the press conference went that he looked like a man who realises his time might be up at the club.

    Shame again about losing to such a horrible and plastic team but RDM needs to be applauded as he has done a fantastic job since he has taken over.
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    (Original post by Mess.)
    Spearing is 23, he hasn't been a young player for a while now, just a terrible one.
    Tbh at least he tries, he seems to always seems to put in effort which is more than can be said about some. We just have expectations higher than what he is, not his fault and he is not ****, just not to Liverpool standards.
    Would fit in at Stoke or around there Downing can go there too.
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