Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam

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  1. followme!'s Avatar
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    Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    Hey i was just wondering why do Shia's hurt themselves or hit themselves during Muharram wen in Islam ur not allowed to hurt even a cm of urself. isn't selfharm Haraam for whatever reason?^o)
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    alot of shias do it to mourn for the death of the Khalifa.
    Allah has never said that you should put pain upon ursleves-
    but these people still hurt themselves, until blood comes out.
    They're mourning besucae they think tht if their ancestors hadnt left
    the Khalifa, he wouldnt have died so miserably.
    I'm soo sorry if I get somehting wrong here. But thats what Ive heard. =)
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    It's to show their respect and love for Hasan (one of their Imams) for all the trials and tribulations his been through.

    But why can't they show their respect innocuously? Why the need to smite themselves?

    I still fail to comprehend how Shia's justify this act of self-harm.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    Not all Shi's do it.
    I'll just wait 'til some get on the thread to explain.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    if it's against islam to "hurt even a cm of urself" then why do some muslim extremists feel the need to blow themselves, and many innocent Westerners, up?
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    (Original post by Zakaz)
    if it's against islam to "hurt even a cm of urself" then why do some muslim extremists feel the need to blow themselves, and many innocent Westerners, up?
    The ones who kill innocent people aren't classified in Islam as "Muslims"
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    (Original post by Zakaz)
    if it's against islam to "hurt even a cm of urself" then why do some muslim extremists feel the need to blow themselves, and many innocent Westerners, up?
    If it's against Islam to drink alcohol, why do some do it anyway?

    People don't always follow their relgion well.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in I
    (Original post by followme!)
    Hey i was just wondering why do Shia's hurt themselves or hit themselves during Muharram wen in Islam ur not allowed to hurt even a cm of urself. isn't selfharm Haraam for whatever reason?^o)
    Therefore, Shi'ite Muslims AREN'T Muslim.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in I
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    Therefore, Shi'ite Muslims AREN'T Muslim.
    Not all Shi'te Muslims do this. I know an Iraqi Shia who is a very good Muslim - doesn't wear the headscarf, but prays her five times a day prayers. My auntie is also a Shia and she is a really good Muslim too. There are minor differences between the beliefs of the two sects... but there can be obvious differences in the traditions and actions.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in I
    (Original post by The Basilisk)
    Not all Shi'te Muslims do this. I know an Iraqi Shia who is a very good Muslim - doesn't wear the headscarf, but prays her five times a day prayers.
    So, not really a very good Muslim is she.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    my god! she DOESN'T wear the headscalf? ARGH!!!! :eek:

    Ever heard of being free?
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in I
    (Original post by Zakaz)
    my god! she DOESN'T wear the headscalf? ARGH!!!! :eek:

    Ever heard of being free?
    You're assuming she's unfree if shes wearing a headscarf.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    aye I am.


    on a side note; is that lovely picture in your profile a picture of you banksy?
    Last edited by Zakaz; 14-02-2006 at 02:06.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    (Original post by Dimez)
    It's to show their respect and love for Hasan (one of their Imams) for all the trials and tribulations his been through.

    But why can't they show their respect innocuously? Why the need to smite themselves?

    I still fail to comprehend how Shia's justify this act of self-harm.
    *Imam Hossein


    Where in the Qoran does it say a woman has to cover her hair?
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in I
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    So, not really a very good Muslim is she.
    How can you judge anyone? Are you a very good one yourself?
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in I
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    How can you judge anyone? Are you a very good one yourself?
    By asking that, you would be judging me.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in I
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    *Imam Hossein


    Where in the Qoran does it say a woman has to cover her hair?
    *Quran
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in I
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    By asking that, you would be judging me.
    Really? Looks more like they're asking you to judge yourself. Note the use of the interrogative rather than the declarative.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in Islam
    Yes woman are not allowed to show any part of their body except their faces. If they feel free by following that rule I dont know why people bother.
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    Re: Why do Shia's hurt themselves during Muharram wen it is wrong to hurt urself in I
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    Really? Looks more like they're asking you to judge yourself. Note the use of the interrogative rather than the declarative.
    I think I'm attracted to you.
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