Can a (fully) black person be called English?
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?Your nationality is a) self-determined and b) based on where you are born, and more importantly, grew up. Sol Campbell was born and grew up in England. So he is English. He may consider himself Jamaican-English, or just Jamaican, but he can be English if he wants to.
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?Does that make YOU more real (as more entitled to say I am English/Japanese/Chinomino, etc).(Original post by Blue & Red Lights)
Study History what are you talking about ?
Does that make your more real
Pardon ?
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?Have no idea what you are talking about, what does 'more real' mean ?(Original post by SoulfulBoy)
Does that make YOU more real (as more entitled to say I am English/Japanese/Chinomino, etc). -
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?MORE ENTITLEMENT to claim ethnicalness!!(Original post by Blue & Red Lights)
Have no idea what you are talking about, what does 'more real' mean ? -
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?I cannot understand your atrocious use of English, and I have no idea what you are babbling on about.(Original post by SoulfulBoy)
MORE ENTITLEMENT to claim ethnicalness!! -
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?Lol you are so dumb(Original post by Hogwartz)
White people are not even fully white, they're a mixture of caucasion, celtic etc.
So i don't see why not. -
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?Dumb.Terrorist(Original post by DdotT)
Lol you are so dumb
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?(Original post by cberry)
Just out of interest, what do you consider to be the difference between ethnicity and race?
Ethnicity is the country your parents come from, culture, language.
Race refers to physical attributes like skin colour.
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?My thoughts:
Race is generally defined scientifically and are large groupings: Caucasoid - european, central asian & middle eastern bloodlines. Negroid - sub saharan african bloodlines. Mongoloid - east asian & native American bloodlines. Australoid - native people of pacific & australia. Some people are mixes or ambigous to those like India which is a mix of caucasoid and mongoloid or East Africans who are technically black, yet appear to be more on the caucasiod side.
Ethnicities are individual tribal and linguistic lines within those races: like Celtic, Italian, Galician, Iranian, Swedish etc. are ethnicities within the caucasian race. Navajo, Han, Korean etc. are ethnicities within the Mongoloid race. It doesn't just refer to where your parents are born.
Nationality are the passports you hold.
Ethnicity & race are blood defined. People can lay claim to both blood and nationality. The reason I say ethnicity isn't just where your parents are born, is because if for example my parents were of 100% Indian blood and brought up in France, but had me in England, I would say I was Indian & English. French might play a part in life, but that would be more on the national side and wouldn't make you ethnically french.Last edited by BoxesAndBangles; 29-01-2012 at 07:55. -
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?Ok, thanks- so what's the difference between ethnicity and nationality?(Original post by 344302)
Ethnicity is the country your parents come from, culture, language.
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?The law does not govern ethnicity, black people are not English because English is an ethnicity(Original post by swissking)
the law says he is/they are. what you are saying is not written on any parliamentary statute therefore it holds no bearing whatsoever -
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Re: Can a (fully) black person be called English?If you do define Black people as english, then what term do you have for us ethnically english folk?
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Basically this, most people will never accept black people as english seeing as it is an artifical, relativly new definition of the term english.(Original post by umarrehman187)
sorry but british people on the low will never accept us colored people to be called british they just hate it :*(
