Responsibility of a man to care for a child

Haha I know this is a serious issue but your suggestions on what the mother could spend the money on made me laugh I totally agree, if the mother wasn't using the money for its correct use you have every right to be angry. That depends on the individual mother and whether they do things out of spite, so it would be unfair to assume most women would do this just as a point.

I am still paying my ex 15% of my income per month when she earns more than me. I look after my child overnight 2 to 3 nights per week and feel my ex nevers spends a penny on our child's upkeep. Our child is walking around with holes in shoes and secondhand clothing despite me handing over £300 per month.

She seems to be swanning about in designer clothes, shoes, handbags etc, and leaving my child with very sketchy (to say the least) childcare (with minors e.g 17 yr olds and so-called friends), while she goes off on weekends away with her new boyfriend and trips abroad.

It depends on the situation. I could never support a woman who gets pregnant on purpose without the man's knowledge then contacting him for child support because that's just wrong, however if they both consented to sex they should understand the implications of that and there is always a very slim chance things won't go to plan.

Ah I see. I'm normally against the government intervening with people's private lives because they should be left to make their own decisions in how they live their lives but unfortunately it's a common occurance nowadays with men getting women pregnant and trying to get away from it, then repeating it with another girl. They need to be held responsible for this and the government's way at the moment is prosecution.

It is utterly unfair to men that they have no way to prevent this. It's also an excellent reason for them to flee.

It's not clear to most people, and it wasn't to you, that having sex without a condom means the man has to pay the woman 40 thousand pounds with no oversight.

Er, not have sex in the first place maybe? They do have a way prevent this.

a lot of pregnancies happen while using contraception.

You could equally argue that if the woman didn't want children and used contraception properly they shouldn't have to raise the child either. Unfortunately life has its little surprises, just because you didn't want something to happen shouldn't be an excuse to run away. Sometimes you've just got to suck it up and deal with things despite not liking the situation.

To the neggers: Sorry, it's called being an adult. You take responsibility for your actions.

Excellent point, men have NO choice when women make the decisions for them; only responsibility. Let's see if that is fair?

What we can do to stop being a parent (from manwomanmyth.com video)
Men: Abstinence, Condom & Vasectomy.
Women: Abstinence, Pill, Coil, Diaphragm, Femidom, Morning-after Pill, Abortion, Adoption, Hysterectomy.

I can see why they say it is a women's choice, they have so many more, not just legally!

A mother's POV on Part 1- men have an equal responsibility? video. Her last video is funny, though I am sure all women are different, " but its hard!"

Don't forget, just cause a woman has the baby, does not mean the man has rights to be involved at all. Toxic women deny fathers the right to see their children & I think we know the trouble that happens in a single mother family household - to society & life itself of the child. Some involve in PAS (parental alienation syndrome), bad mouthing the other parent (making it hard to love the the other parent) whilst still getting payments.

As mentioned by daisydaffodil, there should be a right to have no expectation of help if the man doesn't want the child in the first 24 weeks and Legally Signs his rights away; does not apply to marriage. It might not prevent Boris Becker still finding out his DNA has been used without permission to entrap him. I mean programs like "teenage mums" show women enslaving the men by lying on being on the pill; happens in marriage as well! Or the alleged rape by Yeater on Beiber.

If it is a part of her then she gets full responsibilty as well as full choice. So neither fe/male is abusing the laws. Is that Fair?

I see your point but read my other post a few pages back.

This is a risk you take. If you're not willing to take the risk, don't have sex.

No, it's a government mandated policy risk that I disagree with. As such I shall continue to protest those who support those government policies and try to change their minds.

Why should the father get away get with paying nothing then? He is just as responsible as the mother for ensuring that protection is in place.

This is a risk you take. If you're not willing to take the risk, don't have sex.

Why should the father pay anything? I don't see how having a drunk sexual encounter means he should pay the woman forty thousand pounds any more than it means the woman should be forced to raise the child for eighteen years.

I said have the baby...but expect a man not to be legally responsible; leave it to her on how much access is allowed for the future.

Where does the 40k come from? Why should he get away with not paying anything? he is just as responsible for the child as she is.

I wasn't being literal. Just referring to the fact that there are so many threads about women's deception regarding makeup, about how women abuse feminist rights and claim one thing but act with hypocrisy and do another, about how we expect equal treatment but throw unequal treatment back. And I know that, I was just saying people pounced on SnowRose because she said in this incident women shouldn't be treated equally as males, and I said while I agree with her point, I don't think it's an issue of equality but an issue of just being different and having to take these differences into accout for example with abortions.

Where does it swim from bitches? The male partner has just as much a right as the woman. Also, use a damn condom.

As usual, the child has been forgotten in this debate. Once the child has been born, of course their parents have a responsibility to look after them. Just because they weren't wanted doesn't give them the right to ignore this.

Was there any need for that?

Also this debate surrounds what happens if contraception is used as opposed to not bothering. I agree with your point but it's impossible for men and women to be equals in this situation, men should get a say and be heard but as it's the woman who has to cope with having a child part of her for 9 months they should get the overriding say.

Interesting point but I am not sure how you justify it.

If you argue that the woman has the right to terminate the pregnancy then surely you are arguing she has some kind of ownership over the fetus. Therefore she has responsibility to look after it as it is hers.

If she does not own the fetus and it is partly the mans responsibility to look after the fetus when it becomes a born baby then surely to the terminate the pregnancy the consent of the man is required?