Should I report someone for breaching security?
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Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?Sorry but you need to get a life and chill out a bit.(Original post by IB_19)
How on earth am I being an idiot? And no my life is not bad. I just happen to have morals. A school is a place for students, not people waiting for their friends.
What's wrong with her being outside?
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Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?
Were these security measures in place when she was at school? Does she even know about them? Anyway she wasn't being rude, insulting whatever, she was just waiting for someone and as it sounds like reception was in front of the doors where she was standing then if there was a problem the receptionists would have told her where to go.
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Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?First world problems?(Original post by IB_19)
She was standing in the way.
Therefore students who have every right to be in the school would have to walk around her.
Slightly elitist?(Original post by IB_19)
Anyway, she has so much attitude and looked like a mess. It sends off a very negative impression of the school if a vistor happened to walk in. . -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?It's just the principle of her being in the building when she really shouldn't have been, and the lack of respect for people who do have to wear security badges to prevent these incidents. Also, the fact that people who had a right to be in the building had to walk around someone who did not irritates me. If the hall is crowded people can easily walk into each other and this becomes very annoying if one has to be in a certain place quickly.(Original post by miserlou)
Seriously, get a hobby or read a book or something.
I could understand if she was running around drop-kicking other students or something but she was just waiting for her friend. Plus like someone said she might have had a valid reason to be there like a meeting with a member of staff and was just waiting for her friend afterwards. You keep saying that she was standing in the way of the other students and they had to walk around her, now unless she is the size of a mountain range I doubt this would put them out too much. And if it did they can complain themselves.
To me it sounds like you are not over the bulling (which is fair enough) and just want to get back at her. Plus if you plan on going to university then there are loads of 'rules' in place at most accommodations about guests, if you go and report it every time someone breaks them you will quickly find that no one will want to be your friend.
I am over the bullying in the sense that I do not dwell on it and I feel like a better person because of it in the long run. However, it doesn't mean I like her and I suppose this has had an influence on my attitude to report her. Honestly, if it had been someone else I would have felt annoyed about it, but as it is someone you dislike then to an extent you are more likely to feel even more irritated.
Guests in university may break the rules and that aspect annoys me, however it is slightly different to visitors in sixth forms. In university they could have had permission to do so or may not have seen each other for a while. Also, people can easily settle those disputes through negotiation rather than running to management, as they are adults. However if I approached the girl who used to bully me, it would not have turned out as anticipated. Also, I highly doubt they hadn't seen each other in a while because as far as I am aware they always meet (wow it sounds like I know a lot about these people - I really don't! It's just an observation).
Anyway, I suppose in theory reporting her is a good idea, but in practice it may just cause problems. Which isn't nice at all, though such is life. -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?Firstly, please could you define "a life"? I acknowledge that I'm coming across as uptight and usually I have the attitude that it's best to let people do as they please as long as it doesn't affect anyone, however when it comes to rule breaking, I will feel irritated. Also, her actions affected others. Publicly I am perhaps a tad laid-back, though my thoughts displayed in this thread is how I initially felt and still feel.(Original post by Dr Bungle)
Sorry but you need to get a life and chill out a bit. -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?In year 11 some of these measures were existant (i.e. gates and coding) and the badges were coming into place shortly after. However, her friend should have pointed out that it's breaking the rules and it's best if she waits outside or they could meet at a different place. We've had talks on the importance of security and it's incredibly annoying that this girl won't take it seriously, pretty indicative of her attitude and frame of mind if you ask me. She wasn't affecting people as such, but they both can't abide by simple rules and they have acted against authority. Finally, the receptionist couldn't see her as the halls were crowded.(Original post by Doskey)
Were these security measures in place when she was at school? Does she even know about them? Anyway she wasn't being rude, insulting whatever, she was just waiting for someone and as it sounds like reception was in front of the doors where she was standing then if there was a problem the receptionists would have told her where to go.Last edited by IB_19; 26-01-2012 at 18:28. -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?Yes it may seem petty but it doesn't mean it's not an issue.(Original post by shephi)
First world problems?
Sorry? My sixth form or me? If the former, it's a state comprehensive though it's good for its type and one of the best in the area. If the latter, I can't really see what's so elitist about wanting to send a good impression.Slightly elitist? -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?Meeting a friend is a valid reason.(Original post by IB_19)
A parent would have a valid reason. Whereas that girl did not.
If a teachers friend came to meet them at reception would you complain? -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?I do not care that they met after school, but inside a school building is not a valid reason as she's not a student, she could easily have waited outside.(Original post by Megaross)
Meeting a friend is a valid reason.
Usually teachers know better than to invite external friends, and in my experience that has never happened. It may irritate me seeing as they have very little connection to the school. However if it was a former teacher in the school or they were coming in for a reason (e.g. a talk, etc.), then I wouldn't object. Though if it happened to be just a friend then that's a pointless visit.If a teachers friend came to meet them at reception would you complain? -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?LOL, well this may or may not be the reaction you were hoping for, but within reason I will supervise my children (if I ever have any). Obviously it depends on where they are and their age. I'm a worrier by nature and there are lots of dangers.(Original post by Spawn of Descartes)
You're seriously uptight. I can't imagine what you'll be like as a mother, probably won't let your kids play out without being supervised.
For example, let's say I take my children to the park and they're around 5/6 years old, I will supervise them but not in a controlling way, I'd bring a book or something. If they are playing in the garden, I will look out of the window from time to time and leave doors open to be able to hear what's going on. When they are older and begin to socialise I would like to know who their friends are and would expect them to check in with my husband and I to inform us where they are off to. Lastly, I wouldn't want them to play on the road and would prefer them to stick to the house, friends' houses (when I know more details) and other venues such as sports' grounds or clubs.
With regard to parenting, it's not being uptight, more responsibility.
In reference to me being uptight concerning this thread, I just want fairness for students and people to know where they can and cannot go. -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?Ok that form of parenting seems perfectly acceptable(Original post by IB_19)
LOL, well this may or may not be the reaction you were hoping for, but within reason I will supervise my children (if I ever have any). Obviously it depends on where they are and their age. I'm a worrier by nature and there are lots of dangers.
For example, let's say I take my children to the park and they're around 5/6 years old, I will supervise them but not in a controlling way, I'd bring a book or something. If they are playing in the garden, I will look out of the window from time to time and leave doors open to be able to hear what's going on. When they are older and begin to socialise I would like to know who their friends are and would expect them to check in with my husband and I to inform us where they are off to. Lastly, I wouldn't want them to play on the road and would prefer them to stick to the house, friends' houses (when I know more details) and other venues such as sports' grounds or clubs.
With regard to parenting, it's not being uptight, more responsibility.
In reference to me being uptight concerning this thread, I just want fairness for students and people to know where they can and cannot go.
But would you allow your 14 year child just to go out and say I'll be back around 7? or would you interrogate them?
I think the issue is WHY DO YOU CARE (meant in the nicest way possible btw) If it were me, I wouldn't even give it a second thought. I'd probably look at her and think 'oh didn't she used to come here' and then carry on with my business.Last edited by Spawn of Descartes; 26-01-2012 at 19:22. -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?It depends on how classify interrogating them. Honestly, I would ask them where they are going, who they will be with, what time they will be back and it depends on what time of the year it is as during the winter it does get dark early. At 14 years old I didn't really go out much apart from the occassion trip to a café, the shops, etc. but it isn't completely unreasonable to expect a 14 year old to do so, I just feel that who they will be with will be important and where they are off to.(Original post by Spawn of Descartes)
Ok that form of parenting seems perfectly acceptable
But would you allow your 14 year child just to go out and say I'll be back around 7? or would you interrogate them?
My point really is she could have gone out with her friends (that doesn't bother me at all!), however it would have been more appropiate if she waited outside as she doesn't belong to the school. When I passed her, I just thought "oh dear she really shouldn't be in here" and I signed out and continued walking. I suppose for any chance of the teacher stopping this it should have been reported as it happened.I think the issue is WHY DO YOU CARE (meant in the nicest way possible btw) If it were me, I wouldn't even give it a second thought. I'd probably look at her and think 'oh didn't she used to come here' and then carry on with my business. -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?What does it matter if they wait in reception or outside? Stop being so pedantic and get a grip you silly little girl.(Original post by IB_19)
I do not care that they met after school, but inside a school building is not a valid reason as she's not a student, she could easily have waited outside.
Usually teachers know better than to invite external friends, and in my experience that has never happened. It may irritate me seeing as they have very little connection to the school. However if it was a former teacher in the school or they were coming in for a reason (e.g. a talk, etc.), then I wouldn't object. Though if it happened to be just a friend then that's a pointless visit. -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?(Original post by IB_19)
How on earth am I being an idiot? And no my life is not bad. I just happen to have morals. A school is a place for students, not people waiting for their friends.
What's wrong with her being outside?

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Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?Self righteous, idiot.(Original post by IB_19)
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Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?It does because they are not a student.(Original post by Megaross)
What does it matter if they wait in reception or outside? Stop being so pedantic and get a grip you silly little girl.Last edited by IB_19; 26-01-2012 at 21:20. -
Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?To you and others it may be insignificant, however it's just the fact that people who are not students without a valid reason should not be inside a school. I would not there to be outsides roaming the corridors which could quite easily happen if more isn't done to prevent it.
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Re: Should I report someone for breaching security?What's the worst that could happen?(Original post by IB_19)
To you and others it may be insignificant, however it's just the fact that people who are not students without a valid reason should not be inside a school. I would not there to be outsides roaming the corridors which could quite easily happen if more isn't done to prevent it.
But would you allow your 14 year child just to go out and say I'll be back around 7? or would you interrogate them?