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    (Original post by *Corinna*)
    wow that's cool! How do you apply to become a visiting student? Can you do it if you are already a member of another institution though?
    I've only seen it for the History and HPS faculties, so not sure if others do, probably do though In terms of History, you have to apply to the Board of Graduate Studies with the application form and support from your home institution saying why it would help.

    Some info here: http://www.hist.cam.ac.uk/prospectiv...iting-students
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    (Original post by Craghyrax)
    Yes, but its not possible to further my academic career that way. And child raising will impose enough of an interruption to that, as it is.
    And a 'supportive' spouse in this scenario means one who is able to financiall support you while you take time out. Whereas my partner and I will be in the same boat financially, and the same stage of our academic careers.
    Its all about time devoted to something, and if you want a career then you don't have the luxury of throwing that away on whims and side interests.
    I was thinking supportive more in terms of time, but was framing from my own experience - working full time and studying part time so career/earnings were not interrupted - of course you need a lot of discipline to do it this way, and it is certainly easier to do it this way of your children are old enough to be in school. I guess opportunities for part-time master's are very limited in a number of fields as well.
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    I found an MA course in Mysticism and Religious Experience at Kent Uni which I'd love to do in an ideal world. Though I'm not really qualified for it :ninja:

    This whole thing about children is partly why I've given up on the idea of becoming an academic. That and I probably wouldn't survive the experience of academia :no:
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    I want children too. But I am willing to put this plan on hold till we finish our PhDs etc. I only want 2 so ideally I'll have both by the age of 35, which is not bad (Ideally I'd be 32-33 but OK)
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    (Original post by sj27)
    I was thinking supportive more in terms of time, but was framing from my own experience - working full time and studying part time so career/earnings were not interrupted - of course you need a lot of discipline to do it this way, and it is certainly easier to do it this way of your children are old enough to be in school. I guess opportunities for part-time master's are very limited in a number of fields as well.
    You don't have an academic job, though, right? Also I don't know how people got the idea that I was saying one couldn't have children and study. Obviously since I'm now on a full-time PhD, that question is no longer the concern. I was saying that if one wants an academic career, and children, then you don't exactly have excess time to spare for doing random extra study for fun.

    I don't think there's any hope of becoming an academic by just working part time. Once I finish my PhD I'll have to work like a dog to get out of the dodgy initial bit of endless short-term contracts, and onto something where I'm allowed to teach as well as research. Basically the part time thing will be fine once we've established our careers, but before then its really going to be harmful. And of course the earliest years of a child's life are the most time consuming.
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    Ew, babies :p:

    Stupid clocks going forward. Woke up early, had like 4 hours sleep I think it's cos I'm excited (?!) to be going back to work after my 2 weeks off! Yaaay! Only have one week and then it's the easter hols, though.
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    (Original post by Becca)
    Ew, babies :p:

    Stupid clocks going forward. Woke up early, had like 4 hours sleep I think it's cos I'm excited (?!) to be going back to work after my 2 weeks off! Yaaay! Only have one week and then it's the easter hols, though.
    You all healed up?
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    (Original post by sj27)
    You all healed up?
    Not 100%, I still feel a bit of pain when yawning or swallowing but I haven't needed any painkillers in a few days. I was at the docs on Friday and he said it still looked very rough but that is normal because it's a bit area that needs to heal.

    I'm hoping a day at work won't take its toll too much as I really want to go to training this evening as well...we'll see what happens though!
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    I want children too but I need to find a woman first.
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    (Original post by m:)ckel)
    I want children too but I need to find a woman first.
    story of my life.
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    (Original post by Becca)
    Not 100%, I still feel a bit of pain when yawning or swallowing but I haven't needed any painkillers in a few days. I was at the docs on Friday and he said it still looked very rough but that is normal because it's a bit area that needs to heal.

    I'm hoping a day at work won't take its toll too much as I really want to go to training this evening as well...we'll see what happens though!
    Take it easy... sometimes people underestimate how tired they get back at work after something like this! And I hope you feel 100% better soon.
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    (Original post by Becca)
    Ew, babies :p:
    Yep, that's pretty much my response. When all the other girls are going 'awww isn't it SOOO CUUTTEE' I'm usually thinking 'a noise-maker, run!'
    So yeh... the plan is for evolutionary instincts to kick in. Or something :erm:
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    Problems with babies:
    1) Less attention from partner.
    2) Less money for fun stuff.
    3) They have 50% of your genetic material.

    The last one is really scary; I've heard (and remember) more than enough of me as a child, I don't think I'd be able to deal with 50% of me without lots of slapping, frankly.
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    Agreed.
    Although the genetic material thing doesn't bother me. It makes me feel a bit reassured that there's some chance I could have something in common with my kids, and relate to them. But yeh... I also don't understand how parents don't just want to slap their kids all the time Again - evolutionary instints/hormones I guess.
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    (Original post by *Corinna*)
    I want children too. But I am willing to put this plan on hold till we finish our PhDs etc. I only want 2 so ideally I'll have both by the age of 35, which is not bad (Ideally I'd be 32-33 but OK)
    This is essentially my plan.

    I used to really not enjoy being around little kids, but now when I hear a baby crying, while in the past my instinct was to run, now I have to fight an urge to go an comfort it Definitely got the broodiness hormones going on there.
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    I went from definitely not wanting kids, to really wanting them, almost overnight. It was more of a biological clock suddenly ringing than slowly ticking louder and louder (that's a really corny/crap analogy... sorry )
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    My partner and I have essentially agreed to the necessity of switching 'traditional' gender roles. He is self-employed and works from home a lot of the time, but doesn't really earn enough to allow me to give up work for long maternity leave, whereas hopefully by the time we are in a place to have children, I'll have something resembling permanent employment. So short maternity leave for me, house-husbandness for him. He loves the idea...but i think he thinks it means a licence to play on eBay all day. He'll learn
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    I've been semi seeing a guy, very nice et al but apparently being a PhD student isn't good enough girlfriend material. I mean really?! :banghead:
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    (Original post by apotoftea)
    I've been semi seeing a guy, very nice et al but apparently being a PhD student isn't good enough girlfriend material. I mean really?! :banghead:
    :hugs: :console:
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    (Original post by apotoftea)
    I've been semi seeing a guy, very nice et al but apparently being a PhD student isn't good enough girlfriend material. I mean really?! :banghead:
    wtf??????????
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