GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back

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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    (Original post by Craghyrax)
    No, you can't generalise. That is true of literary theory, and continental philosophy more broadly. However analytic philosophy, by contrast, prides itself on its clarity.
    That guy was American, actually. But the book read as though it had been translated from French.
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    (Original post by hobnob)
    That guy was American, actually. But the book read as though it had been translated from French.
    :rofl:
    Continental refers to style not nationality!

    Here's a New York Times article to explain it


    One of the most relevant paragraphs from that article
    In view of their substantive philosophical differences, it’s obvious that analytic and continental philosophers would profit by greater familiarity with one another’s work, and discussions across the divide would make for a better philosophical world. Here, however, there is a serious lack of symmetry between analytic and continental thought. This is due to the relative clarity of most analytic writing in contrast to the obscurity of much continental work.

    Because of its commitment to clarity, analytic philosophy functions as an effective lingua franca for any philosophical ideas. (Even the most difficult writers, such as Sellars and Davidson, find disciples who write clarifying commentaries.) There is, moreover, a continuing demand for analytic expositions of major continental figures. It’s obvious why there is no corresponding market for, say, expositions of Quine, Rawls or Kripke in the idioms of Heidegger, Derrida or Deleuze. With all due appreciation for the limits of what cannot be said with full clarity, training in analytic philosophy would greatly improve the writing of most continental philosophers.


    and especially for you hobnob...
    It may be that the most strikingly obscure continental writing (e.g., of the later Heidegger and of most major French philosophers since the 1960s) is a form of literary expression, producing a kind of abstract poetry from its creative transformations of philosophical concepts. This would explain the move of academic interest in such work toward English and other language departments. But it is hard to see that there is much of serious philosophical value lost in the clarity of analytic commentaries on Heidegger, Derrida, et al.
    Last edited by Craghyrax; 25-05-2012 at 17:17.
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    (Original post by Craghyrax)
    :rofl:
    Continental refers to style not nationality!

    Here's a New York Times article to explain it
    Silly me, to assume that 'continental' means 'continental'.:p:
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
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    Silly me, to assume that 'continental' means 'continental'.:p:
    Fair point :p:
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    A Philosophy, I hate it sooo much. Except for Heraklitos to be honest, I don't think I've ever enjoyed a single other philosopher. Unless you count Aristotle, which I don't.
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    (Original post by hobnob)
    Silly me, to assume that 'continental' means 'continental'.:p:
    :rofl:

    (what happened to that "distinction" thread btw - did it get out of hand when I wasn't looking?!)
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
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    :rofl:

    (what happened to that "distinction" thread btw - did it get out of hand when I wasn't looking?!)
    It had something to do with the identity of the thread starter.
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
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    It had something to do with the identity of the thread starter.
    Oh, OK. I was just wondering what I had written that had earned a neg (not from anyone with any rep, apparently, so not an issue anyway ) and got a stern message telling me I was trying to go where I wasn't allowed
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    If anybody has access to this, I would be grateful.
    Spoiler:
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    Joo-Young Jung & Jack Linchuan Qiu "Internet Connectedness and Inequality Beyond the "Divide"" Communication Research (2001) Vol. 28, No. 4, pp. 507-535

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    Well done Helen!

    I got an interview for the job I applied for :jiggy:
    Last edited by hobnob; 25-05-2012 at 22:54. Reason: fixed smiley tags, for extra jiggy-ness;)
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    (Original post by Craghyrax)
    If anybody has access to this, I would be grateful.
    Spoiler:
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    Joo-Young Jung & Jack Linchuan Qiu "Internet Connectedness and Inequality Beyond the "Divide"" Communication Research (2001) Vol. 28, No. 4, pp. 507-535

    I do. If you pm me your email address I'll send it once I get home.
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
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    I do. If you pm me your email address I'll send it once I get home.
    Thankyou!
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    (Original post by Craghyrax)
    If anybody has access to this, I would be grateful.
    Spoiler:
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    Joo-Young Jung & Jack Linchuan Qiu "Internet Connectedness and Inequality Beyond the "Divide"" Communication Research (2001) Vol. 28, No. 4, pp. 507-535

    I couldn't help noticing you didn't ask if anyone could help you with this one...

    (Original post by IlexAquifolium)
    Well done Helen!

    I got an interview for the job I applied for [s]jiggy[/]
    Well done Helen and well done Ilex!
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
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    I couldn't help noticing you didn't ask if anyone could help you with this one...
    :angel:
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    (Original post by IlexAquifolium)
    Well done Helen!

    I got an interview for the job I applied for [s]jiggy[/]
    PRSOM
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    well done helenia and ilexaquifolium!

    on the train coming back from my first conference paper, which to my relief didn't crash and burn as i was slightly terrified in the back of my mind of it doing. and actually got some positive responses and interesting questions/chat in response. phew! need to get back to making actual progress on the thesis though.


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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
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    well done helenia and ilexaquifolium!

    on the train coming back from my first conference paper, which to my relief didn't crash and burn as i was slightly terrified in the back of my mind of it doing. and actually got some positive responses and interesting questions/chat in response. phew! need to get back to making actual progress on the thesis though.


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    That all sounds very positive: well done! Repped you but unfortunately can't seem to rep most others in here :no:
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    (Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
    That all sounds very positive: well done! Repped you but unfortunately can't seem to rep most others in here :no:
    I think when the rep system was changed, they also raised the number of people you need to rep in between repping the same person twice. I don't actually know what it is now (and the FAQs don't say:erm:), but it must be something ridiculous, like 50 or so.
    It would be nice if the PRSOM message at least told you how many 'OM's you had to 'R', but no...
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    (Original post by hobnob)
    I think when the rep system was changed, they also raised the number of people you need to rep in between repping the same person twice. I don't actually know what it is now (and the FAQs don't say:erm:), but it must be something ridiculous, like 50 or so.
    It would be nice if the PRSOM message at least told you how many 'OM's you had to 'R', but no...
    It would certainly be very nice if they told us. I'm hopeless at remembering who I've repped and when, so can't calculate myself how many to go :no:
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    Re: GOGSoc Episode V: The GOG Strikes Back
    (Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
    It would certainly be very nice if they told us. I'm hopeless at remembering who I've repped and when, so can't calculate myself how many to go :no:
    This. And considering 99% of my activity is in the postgrad forum, my "pool" of potential reps is small anyway. In fact I often get surprised when it actually allows me to rep someone again!
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