[Sabertooth]

(Original post by Nut.)
I'll eat fruit or a sandwich if/when I get hungry, and I drink milk so I always reach 1200-1300kcals per day.

When I get into a pattern of weight-loss eating gI actually find it quite hard to eat enough calories so I have to do stuff like drinking milk just to top up.

1 medium egg has 80kcals in it. The calories will mostly come if you use a lot of butter or oil when you make the omelette. I just stick about 5g in the pan, just enough so that it doesn't stick too much.

A quick google search on starvation mode might help you too. A lot of people on the fitness forum throw around the term like they know what it means when they don't. I've even read some people saying that it's possible to gain weight by eating too little, because of starvation mode. Apparently they don't know the laws of thermodynamics .

http://www.laststopfatloss.com/is-st...on-mode-a-myth

http://www.weightwatchers.co.uk/util...1&art_id=29241

Those two are a start. The body can't slow the metabolism down too much, because of all the functions that are necessary to stay alive, but it will have some impact. Nothing to spend a huge amount of time worrying about though, IMO.

That's really useful, thanks a bunch Doesn't explain why I've totally stopped losing weight but at least I know I wasn't doing anything wrong. I didn't know that about eggs either, I'll have to eat more of them now I know.

Cheers!

[ilovehobnobs]

How did people make friends at university?!? I am wanting to find a flat to share next year rather than live in halls, chat fine to a girl on the flat website, room available etc- takes one look at my facebook and all of a sudden the room isnt a definate? I know im a "larger" girl and I dont have many friends on my facebook and such, but doesn't mean im not a nice person/know how to go on with people...quote if you reply, could do with some reassurance

Begining to think this is a very, very bad idea..

[Setsuna-F-Seiei]

Anyone speculating they will do bad in thier Jan Exams and feel slighty depressed? I am :L

[rmhumphries]

Mental health knowledge is ****ing awful. Someone is unwilling to risk their neck and make an adjustment that might stop someone killing themselves, despite psych letter backing them up and all. If this was that a carer was needed due to a psychical disability, I bet that carer would be allowed to stay no problem.

On the up side, I proved my point, and am on my way to winning

[Sabertooth]

(Original post by ilovehobnobs)
How did people make friends at university?!? I am wanting to find a flat to share next year rather than live in halls, chat fine to a girl on the flat website, room available etc- takes one look at my facebook and all of a sudden the room isnt a definate? I know im a "larger" girl and I dont have many friends on my facebook and such, but doesn't mean im not a nice person/know how to go on with people...quote if you reply, could do with some reassurance

Begining to think this is a very, very bad idea..

I managed 4 years at uni without making a single friend. I think you're asking the wrong people here

And that really sucks, what a complete bitch.

[Sabertooth]

(Original post by rmhumphries)
Mental health knowledge is ****ing awful. Someone is unwilling to risk their neck and make an adjustment that might stop someone killing themselves, despite psych letter backing them up and all. If this was that a carer was needed due to a psychical disability, I bet that carer would be allowed to stay no problem.

On the up side, I proved my point, and am on my way to winning

Erm...glad to hear you're winning.

You're probably right about the difference between mental and physical disabilities and it's disgraceful but there we go, that's life. Hopefully you win and you'll enlighten one more person.

[ilovehobnobs]

(Original post by Sabertooth)
I managed 4 years at uni without making a single friend. I think you're asking the wrong people here

And that really sucks, what a complete bitch.

Think i might just live in after all, going local anyway just in case...eughhh!

[McNuggetsAhoy]

(Original post by Sabertooth)
I've been reading about clozapine and it says it messes with your metabolism. Have you put any weight on while you've been on it? And was the weight, if you did, due to eating too much or due to a massively slowed metabolism?

I know it sounds retarded to be worried about this considering the circumstances but I'm really really trying to lose weight I don't want my efforts to be in vain.

Sorry about the late response.

When you first start taking it you have a morning and an evening dose for about two to three weeks. During this time your appetite increases during the day and it makes you feel pretty tired as well. Once you have reached the recommended dose you can then start taking the full dose in the evening time which means that you sleep through the appetite increase and you feel pretty normal during the day. I certainly haven't put on much if any weight and I've got used to the medication so I no longer feel drowsy during the day but then I also sleep for about 10 - 12 hours a night without much difficulty.

I hope that has been useful.

[Sabertooth]

(Original post by ilovehobnobs)
Think i might just live in after all, going local anyway just in case...eughhh!

It's not the end of the world if you do tbh. I lived in halls every year and I actually met some really cool people doing it. And it's so much better for stuff like transport and bills. Lazy way ftw!

[Sabertooth]

(Original post by McNuggetsAhoy)
Sorry about the late response.

When you first start taking it you have a morning and an evening dose for about two to three weeks. During this time your appetite increases during the day and it makes you feel pretty tired as well. Once you have reached the recommended dose you can then start taking the full dose in the evening time which means that you sleep through the appetite increase and you feel pretty normal during the day. I certainly haven't put on much if any weight and I've got used to the medication so I no longer feel drowsy during the day but then I also sleep for about 10 - 12 hours a night without much difficulty.

I hope that has been useful.

That has been very useful, thanks a lot man.

If it's just an appetite increase I can handle that and hopefully not gain weight, I know what to look out for. And the tiredness sounds amazing right now (haven't slept in 3.5 weeks!).

Now I just gotta convince my psychiatrist.

[caseyhayes]

(Original post by Botticello)
How long do they last?

I went cold turkey from 20mg to 0, I had to pretty much resign myself to bed for a week feeling sick, didn't let myself drive because of the head shocks when I did walk. Hang in there though, just a few days.

[motzand]

(Original post by ilovehobnobs)
How did people make friends at university?!? I am wanting to find a flat to share next year rather than live in halls, chat fine to a girl on the flat website, room available etc- takes one look at my facebook and all of a sudden the room isnt a definate? I know im a "larger" girl and I dont have many friends on my facebook and such, but doesn't mean im not a nice person/know how to go on with people...quote if you reply, could do with some reassurance

Begining to think this is a very, very bad idea..

Try to not get disheartened. Have you asked her (as neutrally as possible) why the room isn't a definite? It probably isn't because of how you are, especially if you've been getting on fine with one another. She might be speaking to other people and trying to decide who to share with.

I can relate to being a "larger" girl and I only have a handful of friends on my own facebook. I really struggle to make friends at uni and the ones I do make end up ignoring me quite a lot. I kinda admire you actually for actively seeking people to share a flat, that's amazing in my mind because it's something I couldn't even attempt to do.

[avhhs]

Can't believe I lost concentration on my homework again .

Finally finished my homework . Seems like a huge achievement . At least I can now go to sleep and look forward to tomorrow.

[angelbones]

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[superwolf]

(Original post by bullettheory)
I'm thinking of getting business cards. Will that ease your concerns?

On your business cards you should call yourself an analrapist. It's like an analyst crossed with a therapist.

(Original post by bullettheory)
We could work out some kind of referral scheme. For every 3 people you manage to convince to undertake my "treatment", I will give you a free session.

One query: by 'convince' do you mean that they have to be conscious?

(Original post by Anonymous)
Really sorry I just accidently negged you when my screen froze. Will give it back when I can.

Fixed for you.

(Original post by bullettheory)
I'm handing in my suspension of studies form tomorrow, basically I will come back in October and start this year over again. I thought I would be majorly relieved to not have the pressure anymore, but I just feel like a massive failure. I have things to do with my time so it's not like I will be bored, I just don't know how to tell people. It's going to be pretty obvious that I'm quite ill if I'm having to take time off uni, and I just don't know how to come out with it. Anyone got any tips on how to tell people?

Yeah, it's not the most fun thing to have to go round telling people. Still, I found that if you just decide in advance how much or little you want to tell people, and then stick with that, the awkwardness only really lasts for a minute or so. With people I didn't want to go into details with I'd just say something like 'I'm taking time off because of health problems' and generally they'd get the message that I didn't want to go further into it. People you do want to tell, I'd just go with the straightforward approach.

(Original post by Botticello)
I don't think I could take any more. I just want to break through this crap until my body stops it. The certificate is quite expensive I hear, I don't think anyone could afford it I'm so so so pissed off that my dosage (20mg) was increased without being told about these awful symptoms.

Yeah it is stupidly expensive, but still works out cheaper than paying the seven odd quid each time if you're going to be getting more than one prescription a month it'll probably work out cheaper. I must confess in the end I just asked my lovely mum to get one for me, and she did. So much for independence...

You should have been warned not to suddenly stop taking your meds after being changed to a higher dosage, but I'm afraid doctors don't always take into account things like financial considerations and their influence on people's ability to take their meds (I had to politely ask my one to stop prescribing me my meds only two weeks at a time, was costing me a fortune), but providing that they did give that warning I'm afraid that the decision to stop taking them plus its consequences are more on your head than the doctor's (how I'd see it at least).

(Original post by Anonymous)
Was taken quite a while ago. Will see if I can get a better one when she wakes up but the little rascal never stays still.


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(Original post by rmhumphries)
Mental health knowledge is ****ing awful. Someone is unwilling to risk their neck and make an adjustment that might stop someone killing themselves, despite psych letter backing them up and all. If this was that a carer was needed due to a psychical disability, I bet that carer would be allowed to stay no problem.

On the up side, I proved my point, and am on my way to winning

Yeah, my psychic disabilities have been causing me hell recently.

[Pareidolia]

(Original post by superwolf)
On your business cards you should call yourself an analrapist. It's like an analyst crossed with a therapist.

Ingenious.

[Idle]

Sooooo my review had it's good and bad, mainly good.

Going to get allocated a CPN in the next week or two, then hopefully get referred to Psychology and the Therapeutic Recovery Service, going to be told if i can take my tablets in the evening instead of morning to combat the drowsiness tomorrow and if they are still not working when I next see my consultant in 6 weeks maybe it can be changed.

Also my first payment of ESA came through today, so I finally have a little bit of money.

Didn't get much else done today, but hey

[Stiff Little Fingers]

(Original post by superwolf)
One query: by 'convince' do you mean that they have to be conscious?

Remind me never to accept a drink from you...

[littleshambles]

up early again. i'm irrepressible.

NO. I will sleep more. this is silly. SLEEP MORE.

[Botticello]

(Original post by caseyhayes)
I went cold turkey from 20mg to 0, I had to pretty much resign myself to bed for a week feeling sick, didn't let myself drive because of the head shocks when I did walk. Hang in there though, just a few days.

Thanks, I've been barely able to face eating cause I'm queasy. I can understand that we aren't supposed to go cold turkey but I've read many accounts of feeling the same while doing it gradually, and I've been on 20mg for a year and a bit. The dizziness is a bit decreased but got a worsening headache. Omega 3 is helpful though. I also didn't know the emotional upset was withdrawal, I though it was just the depression coming back, and I thought the dizziness was low blood sugar. Some people say it took them weeks to get over the symptom..aaargh

And my housemate was asking loads and loads of questions about it, cause if you say one word he starts interrogating you. I know you don't understand it unless you've been through it but it's embarrassing and depressing. Plus I'd state something in my answer then he'd ask it again a few questions later