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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by Jack22031994)
    Yeah but I don't, and anyway I wouldn't "need" it I would WANT it ,


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    Then I'm not sure you know what an addiction is.
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    (Original post by minimarshmallow)
    Then I'm not sure you know what an addiction is.
    Course I do, it's not through "need" it's through an overwhelming "want" for it, which might make a smoker or any addiction "think" they "need" it


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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
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    Yeah but I don't, and anyway I wouldn't "need" it I would WANT it ,


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    I think you misunderstand the concept of an addictive substance.
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    I'd be interested to know whether smokers smoke in their cars when there is a non-smoking occupant.
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by Jack22031994)
    Course I do, it's not through "need" it's through an overwhelming "want" for it, which might make a smoker or any addiction "think" they "need" it


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    Yeah, seriously, you should probably research addiction.
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    yes... it freaking stinks when you walk past them.... have to hold my breathe just to avoid breathing it in, such an inconvenience
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    (Original post by minimarshmallow)
    Yeah, seriously, you should probably research addiction.
    Answer this

    Does a human "need" to smoke?
    a smoker won't die if they don't smoke so therefore they don't need it


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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    Most certainly not. I'm not a smoker, but government interference with people's daily lives has gone way too far as it is.
    Besides, for the people saying smoking outdoors should be banned because it can cause lung cancer in passers-by: I think we all inhale way more smoke from cars and buses than from cigarettes every time we walk down the street, but can you see anyone doing anything about that?
    Last edited by ForgettingWhatsername; 06-07-2012 at 10:24.
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    jog on
    Something smokers wouldn't be able to do :teehee:
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by Jack22031994)
    Answer this

    Does a human "need" to smoke?
    a smoker won't die if they don't smoke so therefore they don't need it


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    Now you're changing your tune, we were talking about an addiction to nicotine. The addiction isn't too smoking, it's too nicotine.
    There is also such a thing as nicotine withdrawal.

    But unless you've either studied addiction or had an addiction (which if you're making such uninformed statements, I doubt) then I don't think we should be having this conversation.
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
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    You do know that although you can smell smoke outside, the effects of passive smoking are dramatically reduced in an outdoor space.
    It doesn't justify it. And frankly, where have you got that information from?
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by minimarshmallow)
    Now you're changing your tune, we were talking about an addiction to nicotine. The addiction isn't too smoking, it's too nicotine.
    There is also such a thing as nicotine withdrawal.

    But unless you've either studied addiction or had an addiction (which if you're making such uninformed statements, I doubt) then I don't think we should be having this conversation.
    She is right - you do get nicotine withdrawal and from what I hear it's pretty tough: I mean it is pretty much the most addictive drug (apart from a few lab chemicals). Although if the problem is addiction then can't you get those Niquitin things to satisfy the craving?
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by Dinnes)
    She is right - you do get nicotine withdrawal and from what I hear it's pretty tough: I mean it is pretty much the most addictive drug (apart from a few lab chemicals). Although if the problem is addiction then can't you get those Niquitin things to satisfy the craving?
    They're really expensive.
    And I still don't see why people should be deprived of the opportunity to choose to smoke as long as they are paying into the system as much in tax as they are taking out by using the NHS for smoking related illnesses (their own and passive smoke of their children/friends for example).
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by minimarshmallow)
    They're really expensive.
    And I still don't see why people should be deprived of the opportunity to choose to smoke as long as they are paying into the system as much in tax as they are taking out by using the NHS for smoking related illnesses (their own and passive smoke of their children/friends for example).
    Ah okay.

    I think because even though you're paying for everything there are still kids left with conditions caused by other people's smoke - that is to say, less a financial issue but more an ethical one.

    If I break your arm and then pay for it to be fixed, I've still broken your arm?

    Having said that there is a balance that needs to be found: between smokers' free will and the results of passive smoking
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by Dinnes)
    Ah okay.

    I think because even though you're paying for everything there are still kids left with conditions caused by other people's smoke - that is to say, less a financial issue but more an ethical one.

    If I break your arm and then pay for it to be fixed, I've still broken your arm?

    Having said that there is a balance that needs to be found: between smokers' free will and the results of passive smoking
    Well I still don't think that people should be allowed to smoke in enclosed public places where it is likely that passive smoking would occur. I don't think that people should smoke around their kids and anyone with kids who smokes should be encouraged either to quit or smoke well away from them.
    But I don't see how totally banning cigarettes is a solution to these problems.
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    A lot of people I know smoke and that is one of the biggest regrets they have because they find it hard to stop. Unfortunate to say the least and what's more my clothes and hair smell as a result and I find it hard to breathe. Though I can handle that by moving away.
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by minimarshmallow)
    Well I still don't think that people should be allowed to smoke in enclosed public places where it is likely that passive smoking would occur. I don't think that people should smoke around their kids and anyone with kids who smokes should be encouraged either to quit or smoke well away from them.
    I agree completely. I know a few people whose parents smoke and loads of them have asthma and stuff, and you can always smell their parents cigarette smoke on their breath :/

    I'm kind of undecided about banning them altogether. It probably would help, but I'm not sure you could justify it on the grounds of rights and all that?
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by knowledge.messiah)
    WHy isn't it made illegal (along with alcohol) as it will save the NHS millions each year as nobody will be killing themselves :/
    Because the right to harm oneself and the rest outweighs the right to remain healthy.

    ****ked up world we live in.
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
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    Because the right to harm oneself and the rest outweighs the right to remain healthy.

    ****ked up world we live in.
    Do you genuinely believe that smoking and drinking should be made illegal?
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    Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
    (Original post by The_Mighty_Bush)
    Do you genuinely believe that smoking and drinking should be made illegal?
    For Muslims yes, because the religion obligates us to care for one another. For Non-Muslims, no.
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