Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Or rather, see how much money people can make by selling it illegally. You don't seriously believe people will just give up smoking if you ban it? You don't even have to ban it, making it stupidly expensive will have the same affect. Smoking is already an expensive past time, but it doesn't stop people.(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
No, smoking should be banned everywhere.
Charge £500 for a pack and see how many people give them up.
The Government would rather make a killing off it themselves.Last edited by Converse Rocker; 04-07-2012 at 21:48. -
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Do I sound like I care about the money earned from tax? You're happy to earn money by sentencing other people to a lifetime of poor health? Really moral (!)(Original post by minimarshmallow)
And see how many people get arrested for trying to smuggle them in other countries and we then have to pay for them in prison. Oh, and the sudden loss of money from the loss of tax on the cigarettes.
That'll be just great for the economy.
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Prohibition, da. By making it illegal/stupidly expensive, it will force some people off of cigarettes and that's better than not doing anything at all.(Original post by Converse Rocker)
Or rather, see how much money people can make by selling it illegally. You don't seriously believe people will just give up smoking if you ban it? You don't even have to ban it, making it stupidly expensive will have the same affect. Smoking is already an expensive past time, but it doesn't stop people.
America tried banning alcohol and the whole thing went tits up, because people still managed to get off their tits regardless.
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"The consumption of alcohol overall went down by half in the 1920s; and it remained below pre-Prohibition levels until the 1940s."
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?As much as I HATE being around smokers, I'd rather they could do it in the open and not be pushed underground where they're only with smoking friends who all agree its okay and therefore are less likely to be influenced to quit
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Giving people the choice to smoke doesn't sentence them to anything, it's a personal choice. I would never do it, pretty disgusting to me, but banning it outright isn't really feasible.(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
Do I sound like I care about the money earned from tax? You're happy to earn money by sentencing other people to a lifetime of poor health? Really moral (!)
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Some, but not that many I bet. If you're addicted to smoking, it doesn't just go away when it gets banned. There must be a reason America 'un-banned' alcohol after they tried Prohibition, so to speak.(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
Prohibition, da. By making it illegal/stupidly expensive, it will force some people off of cigarettes and that's better than not doing anything at all.Last edited by Converse Rocker; 04-07-2012 at 21:50. -
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Giving people a choice always leads to some making the wrong one, though. Why give a choice with something that is so potent? Banning it outright isn't feasible, but it's what should happen. Unfortunately, what should happen and what does happen aren't the same thing.(Original post by Converse Rocker)
Giving people the choice to smoke doesn't sentence them to anything, it's a personal choice. I would never do it, pretty disgusting to me, but banning it outright isn't really feasible.
Some, but not that many I bet. If you're addicted to smoking, it doesn't just go away when it gets banned.
Perhaps, if cigarettes were banned, it would give people the impetus that they need to break the habit? Who knows? I certainly don't, but I detest smoking. -
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?I'd ban smoking and drinking all together. Lets face it, they're not healthy for us and one of the main reasons why most people start drinking/smoking is because other people do it and peer pressure. If none of my friends smoked or drank alcohol, then the times when I first had a cigarette and drank alcohol would have never happened, and therefore a generation would grow up without them. We don't NEED them in our lives, but we feel we do to handle pressure and stress. Granted, they can feel good, but surely, being the intelligent society that we are now, we can find other ways of relieving stress and pressure than smoking and alcohol. Another point, they mask other problems. People drink to get rid of stress and negative emotions, and this in turn makes the problem worse because alcohol is a depressant. Also, they both reduce the quality of our health. There are so many reasons as to why smoking and alcohol, logically should be banned but they aren't. People may argue that eating chocolate for example is just as bad, and say well why don't we ban that too? But I disagree. The effects of eating chocolate and the stored fat can be easily burned off. Alcohol on the other hand, poisons the body and liver. Smoking destroys the lungs and increases chances of many different types of cancers. These two drugs have profoundly negative effects that are even more difficult to reverse. Furthermore people argue that they create money for society, but the extra money created is in turn generated into tax and is in turn invested in the NHS which uses the money to deal with....problems associated with drinking and smoking. Ban them both.
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Good post, and I agree with 99% of it.(Original post by Old Father Time)
I'd ban smoking and drinking all together. Lets face it, they're not healthy for us and one of the main reasons why most people start drinking/smoking is because other people do it and peer pressure. If none of my friends smoked or drank alcohol, then the times when I first had a cigarette and drank alcohol would have never happened, and therefore a generation would grow up without them. We don't NEED them in our lives, but we feel we do to handle pressure and stress. Granted, they can feel good, but surely, being the intelligent society that we are now, we can find other ways of relieving stress and pressure than smoking and alcohol. Another point, they mask other problems. People drink to get rid of stress and negative emotions, and this in turn makes the problem worse because alcohol is a depressant. Also, they both reduce the quality of our health. There are so many reasons as to why smoking and alcohol, logically should be banned but they aren't. People may argue that eating chocolate for example is just as bad, and say well why don't we ban that too? But I disagree. The effects of eating chocolate and the stored fat can be easily burned off. Alcohol on the other hand, poisons the body and liver. Smoking destroys the lungs and increases chances of many different types of cancers. These two drugs have profoundly negative effects that are even more difficult to reverse. Furthermore people argue that they create money for society, but the extra money created is in turn generated into tax and is in turn invested in the NHS which uses the money to deal with....problems associated with drinking and smoking. Ban them both.
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Are you a smoker then?(Original post by unicornsoncrack)
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?They pay tax on cigarettes which goes to things such as the NHS, and then they have to pay for their healthcare. That's paying twice for healthcare.(Original post by Jack22031994)
No your not they pay for the cigarettes and then the healthcare for smoking related illnesses and they dint gave to smoke in the first place anyway
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?That 'fresh air' is polluted by cars.(Original post by M4LLY)
No because theres plenty more fresh air to breathe -
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?How nice of you to personally insult me. Cheers so much.(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
Do I sound like I care about the money earned from tax? You're happy to earn money by sentencing other people to a lifetime of poor health? Really moral (!)
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If I was advocating sentencing people to poor health to make money off them, I'd make it a legal requirement to smoke, which is not what I'm doing (or what anyone is doing, because it would be stupid).
I'm saying it's okay to let people choose as long as they know the risks (which they do as they're printed on the packets and you see adverts and learn about it in school and everytime you're in your doctors surgery), they are old enough to understand the risks and make a decision (you have to be 18 to smoke, so they at least have the brain capacity to do so according to neuroscience) and the tax on the product makes up for any cost that the government may incur as a result of their life choice (the tax on cigarettes should be at least equal with, if not slightly exceeding, the amount of money that is spent on treating smoking relating illnesses). -
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Tough! Don't smoke!(Original post by minimarshmallow)
They pay tax on cigarettes which goes to things such as the NHS, and then they have to pay for their healthcare. That's paying twice for healthcare.
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Yes but my point is that theres plenty of space to get away from cigarette smoke! At this rate i'm going to be made to burn my Jack Daniels T-shirt as it 'encourages alcoholism'!(Original post by Formerly Helpful_C)
That 'fresh air' is polluted by cars. -
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Good luck getting people to vote for that.(Original post by Jack22031994)
Tough! Don't smoke!
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?Ha, who needs people to vote for it? Attain power and, then, pass it through using the majority achieved (at the election).(Original post by minimarshmallow)
Good luck getting people to vote for that.
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I think there will be a lot of support for it actually, as then nhs money can be spent on looking after cancer and injured soldiers better Rather than looking after people who have ruined their own bodies through their own choice(Original post by minimarshmallow)
Good luck getting people to vote for that.
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Re: Should smoking in the street and outdoors be banned?No, there really isn't. Especially when you're both stood at the same traffic lights and they insist on breathing their smoke in your face. I know what you'll say - move. You can still smell the smoke.(Original post by M4LLY)
Yes but my point is that theres plenty of space to get away from cigarette smoke! At this rate i'm going to be made to burn my Jack Daniels T-shirt as it 'encourages alcoholism'!
The only solution is to ban smoking.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13467728
If New York can ban smoking outside (in public spaces e.g. parks, beaches and Times Square), why can't we? -
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In their own house or not at all(Original post by OU Student)
Where would they smoke?
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