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    Well the past few days I've been looking at this PC and customizing it just for fun but I actually want to buy it so I can game!

    http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/X...eady-x1650-pc/

    I want to buy it from here because this website does it with financing so im paying monthly installments of around 40 quid, is this a good deal?

    Oh and I was thinking instead of the 3GB HD7970 I can put in 2 x 2GB HD6970 or 2 x 2GB GTX 560 Ti because its almost the same price and I get 4GB of GPU power instead of 3GB, a good idea? Should I get the GTX or the Radeon?

    And I don't really care about boot times and all that so would an SSD really affect my gaming experience? Getting rid of the SSD will certainly lower the price of the machine.

    I'd also like to ask about the motherboard that comes with it its the ASUS P8Z68-V LX but would it be better if I upgraded the motherboard to a better one from the options available?

    What about the cooling? Would I need liquid cooling for the kind of hardware I'm going to have?

    I guess this would run the newest games easily right? And how long would it last before it needs to be upgraded?

    Thank you!
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    What a beast, alot of money though :/
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    Yeah it is quite a bit of money but I have lots of cash saved and I don't want to spend it all at once so my dad doesn't go crazy hahah! But is it worth it? And what are your opinions on what I said about replacing the parts etc...
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    (Original post by BarcaFan333)
    Well the past few days I've been looking at this PC and customizing it just for fun but I actually want to buy it so I can game!

    http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/X...eady-x1650-pc/

    I want to buy it from here because this website does it with financing so im paying monthly installments of around 40 quid, is this a good deal?

    Oh and I was thinking instead of the 3GB HD7970 I can put in 2 x 2GB HD6970 or 2 x 2GB GTX 560 Ti because its almost the same price and I get 4GB of GPU power instead of 3GB, a good idea? Should I get the GTX or the Radeon?

    And I don't really care about boot times and all that so would an SSD really affect my gaming experience? Getting rid of the SSD will certainly lower the price of the machine.

    I'd also like to ask about the motherboard that comes with it its the ASUS P8Z68-V LX but would it be better if I upgraded the motherboard to a better one from the options available?

    What about the cooling? Would I need liquid cooling for the kind of hardware I'm going to have?

    I guess this would run the newest games easily right? And how long would it last before it needs to be upgraded?

    Thank you!
    I would say the 2x 2gb 6970 HD, but then again check out some videos with a crossfire on it on a game in comparison to a 3gb 7970
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    http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/item-detai...cts_id=4375591

    well if you wanna spend money and get a 10 better i7 system running at pretty much the fastest it'll go. there's ya answer.
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    Yeah but I said I wanted to use the financing feature of that website that's why I chose PC Specialist, that PC does look powerful though!
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    (Original post by Wata)
    http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/item-detai...cts_id=4375591

    well if you wanna spend money and get a 10 better i7 system running at pretty much the fastest it'll go. there's ya answer.
    That looks quite overpriced imo.
    Just noticed how stupidly expensive that CPU is lol. Totally uneccessary
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    I wouldn't get a PC on finance just because you will still be paying for it when much better hardware has come out.
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    (Original post by BarcaFan333)
    Well the past few days I've been looking at this PC and customizing it just for fun but I actually want to buy it so I can game!

    http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/X...eady-x1650-pc/

    I want to buy it from here because this website does it with financing so im paying monthly installments of around 40 quid, is this a good deal?

    Oh and I was thinking instead of the 3GB HD7970 I can put in 2 x 2GB HD6970 or 2 x 2GB GTX 560 Ti because its almost the same price and I get 4GB of GPU power instead of 3GB, a good idea? Should I get the GTX or the Radeon?

    And I don't really care about boot times and all that so would an SSD really affect my gaming experience? Getting rid of the SSD will certainly lower the price of the machine.

    I'd also like to ask about the motherboard that comes with it its the ASUS P8Z68-V LX but would it be better if I upgraded the motherboard to a better one from the options available?

    What about the cooling? Would I need liquid cooling for the kind of hardware I'm going to have?

    I guess this would run the newest games easily right? And how long would it last before it needs to be upgraded?

    Thank you!
    1. No, not a good deal. You can build the same system for way less by buying all the components separately (about as hard as constructing lego). But if you're set on buying pre-built then go ahead.

    2. Get the 7970 instead of 2 other cards. As the newest AMD card out, it'll be more futureproof than the 6xxx series. An extra gigabyte VRAM will only really benefit you if you're running ridiculously large resolutions.

    3. If you have your games loaded on the SSD, they will generally load faster so less waiting between menus and gameplay for example. For the money you're spending, you might as well get an SSD.

    4. The ASUS P8Z68-V LX is a decent board, but if you're thinking about SLI or Crossfire you'll want something that runs two PCIe slots at full capacity. Again, for the money you're spending you can do a lot better.

    5. Liquid cooling isn't really necessary unless you're planning to do huge overclocks. A good quality Air cooler will be fine.

    Overall, that system should last a good couple of years running games at full power.


    Hope that helps
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    (Original post by BarcaFan333)
    Yeah it is quite a bit of money but I have lots of cash saved and I don't want to spend it all at once so my dad doesn't go crazy hahah! But is it worth it? And what are your opinions on what I said about replacing the parts etc...
    Don't buy it on finance no matter what you do. You said you have enough money to pay for it; it'll cost £2500+ on finance rather than the £1600 it'd cost upfront. That's not worth it.

    Plus I think you could build that for maybe £1200 or less (without putting much effort into looking up how much each component costs - I'm guessing essentially), it's worth putting a just a few hours into it to save £400+


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    Also that PSU is way too good - get the enthusiast 750W (more than enough) for a £120 saving. Get rid of the SSD if you don't care about boot times (assuming you'll load windows on it and stuff, you'll only fit 8-10 games on it so if you're anything like me that won't be a great help).

    Select no graphics card, buy the 7970 for 60 quid cheaper than they're selling it: http://www.ebuyer.com/338546-sapphir...edium=products

    Also 8GB RAM instead of 16GB (unless you're doing super intensive video editing and engineering design it's useless).

    Then it comes to £897, with £448 for the graphics card making it £1345.

    But again, cheaper if you build it yourself and you get longer parts warranty for free
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    (Original post by BarcaFan333)
    Well the past few days I've been looking at this PC and customizing it just for fun but I actually want to buy it so I can game!

    http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/X...eady-x1650-pc/

    I want to buy it from here because this website does it with financing so im paying monthly installments of around 40 quid, is this a good deal?

    Oh and I was thinking instead of the 3GB HD7970 I can put in 2 x 2GB HD6970 or 2 x 2GB GTX 560 Ti because its almost the same price and I get 4GB of GPU power instead of 3GB, a good idea? Should I get the GTX or the Radeon?

    And I don't really care about boot times and all that so would an SSD really affect my gaming experience? Getting rid of the SSD will certainly lower the price of the machine.

    I'd also like to ask about the motherboard that comes with it its the ASUS P8Z68-V LX but would it be better if I upgraded the motherboard to a better one from the options available?

    What about the cooling? Would I need liquid cooling for the kind of hardware I'm going to have?

    I guess this would run the newest games easily right? And how long would it last before it needs to be upgraded?

    Thank you!
    £1,666?

    I have just spec'd a new machine for £1,662 which includes 2 x ATi 7970's and a monitor.

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    (Original post by BarcaFan333)
    Well the past few days I've been looking at this PC and customizing it just for fun but I actually want to buy it so I can game!

    http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/X...eady-x1650-pc/

    I want to buy it from here because this website does it with financing so im paying monthly installments of around 40 quid, is this a good deal?

    Oh and I was thinking instead of the 3GB HD7970 I can put in 2 x 2GB HD6970 or 2 x 2GB GTX 560 Ti because its almost the same price and I get 4GB of GPU power instead of 3GB, a good idea? Should I get the GTX or the Radeon?

    And I don't really care about boot times and all that so would an SSD really affect my gaming experience? Getting rid of the SSD will certainly lower the price of the machine.

    I'd also like to ask about the motherboard that comes with it its the ASUS P8Z68-V LX but would it be better if I upgraded the motherboard to a better one from the options available?

    What about the cooling? Would I need liquid cooling for the kind of hardware I'm going to have?

    I guess this would run the newest games easily right? And how long would it last before it needs to be upgraded?

    Thank you!
    By the way, when you run Crossfire or Sli, your useable graphics ram does not increase, since the same information has to be mirrored to each GPU in order for the GPU to process the information quicker. So running two 2GB cards will give you 2GB useable Ram, not 4GB. Personally, I would go with the 7970, since it will run both cooler and quieter than two cards, and use less power. It will also not have the issues of microstuttering that CF/Sli is prone to. Finally, it will also give you the option of adding a second card later (though tbh, a single 7970 is certainly powerful enough!) whereas you don't have this option with the 560/6970 dual card setup. (Well you could do a 3 card setup, but they both start to scale poorly past 2 cards, so it wouldn't be worth it)
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    (Original post by IcEmAn911)
    £1,666?

    I have just spec'd a new machine for £1,662 which includes 2 x ATi 7970's and a monitor.

    Didn't want to include an aftermarket CPU cooler for overclocking?
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    (Original post by BarcaFan333)
    Well the past few days I've been looking at this PC and customizing it just for fun but I actually want to buy it so I can game!

    http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/view/X...eady-x1650-pc/

    I want to buy it from here because this website does it with financing so im paying monthly installments of around 40 quid, is this a good deal?

    Oh and I was thinking instead of the 3GB HD7970 I can put in 2 x 2GB HD6970 or 2 x 2GB GTX 560 Ti because its almost the same price and I get 4GB of GPU power instead of 3GB, a good idea? Should I get the GTX or the Radeon?

    And I don't really care about boot times and all that so would an SSD really affect my gaming experience? Getting rid of the SSD will certainly lower the price of the machine.

    I'd also like to ask about the motherboard that comes with it its the ASUS P8Z68-V LX but would it be better if I upgraded the motherboard to a better one from the options available?

    What about the cooling? Would I need liquid cooling for the kind of hardware I'm going to have?

    I guess this would run the newest games easily right? And how long would it last before it needs to be upgraded?

    Thank you!
    Honestly, with how gaming is going, that PC would be a waste of money.

    As it stands, a standard gaming PC will max out any game, so a beast of a machine like that is just complete overkill.
    And by the time gaming catches up to the hardware, new hardware will be out as games will only improve once the 360 and PS3 die out, and that could be a few years still.
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    (Original post by NuclearFusion)
    Didn't want to include an aftermarket CPU cooler for overclocking?
    Is it even necessary?
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    (Original post by IcEmAn911)
    Is it even necessary?
    It is if you want good overclocks
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    Or just wait one month till Ivybridge and Kepler are released.

    Then you can see if Radeon drop their prices on their cards, although Intel won't really drop the prices on their current Sandybridge CPU's
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    (Original post by Lightning001)
    Or just wait one month till Ivybridge and Kepler are released.

    Then you can see if Radeon drop their prices on their cards, although Intel won't really drop the prices on their current Sandybridge CPU's
    BTW, Radeon isn't a company, AMD makes cards using Radeon HD as the name, just as Nvidia uses Geforce as their name.
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    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
    Honestly, with how gaming is going, that PC would be a waste of money.

    As it stands, a standard gaming PC will max out any game, so a beast of a machine like that is just complete overkill.
    And by the time gaming catches up to the hardware, new hardware will be out as games will only improve once the 360 and PS3 die out, and that could be a few years still.
    The only game I've not been able to max out at a decent framerate is Witcher 2 (which seems to be optimised horribly...) ... and my system still has a Core2Duo . Alongside a single 560ti. And yeah it is basically because most games are Multiplatform and the system, although it's mostly ancient other than the card, still outstrips both consoles by a fair margin.

    I very much doubt I'll need a significant upgrade until there are new consoles to contend with... will probably get a new motherboard and an i5 in a while and leave it at that for a few years. I reckon buying top of the line now is likely to leave you lagging a bit behind when the next "gaming jump" arrives... so unless you can afford to upgrade again by then, I'd wait it out with a cheaper rig.
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    (Original post by Bhumbauze)
    The only game I've not been able to max out at a decent framerate is Witcher 2 (which seems to be optimised horribly...) ... and my system still has a Core2Duo . Alongside a single 560ti. And yeah it is basically because most games are Multiplatform and the system, although it's mostly ancient other than the card, still outstrips both consoles by a fair margin.

    I very much doubt I'll need a significant upgrade until there are new consoles to contend with... will probably get a new motherboard and an i5 in a while and leave it at that for a few years. I reckon buying top of the line now is likely to leave you lagging a bit behind when the next "gaming jump" arrives... so unless you can afford to upgrade again by then, I'd wait it out with a cheaper rig.
    Totally right. A 560ti is a very good card and is probably being bottlenecked by your cpu, yet still you max games

    If Epic Games get their way, then the next gaming jump will be enormous as they are wanting the next consoles to have enthusiast cards (£200+), 6 - 8 core cpu's, and 8 GB of RAM :eek: That in a console would be beyond amazing, but would mean a PC would need £3000+ thrown at it before it could even start to contend. However, no one knows what will be in the next consoles yet

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