[chrome96]

i havnt done a ny research so this may not be true , i uderstand some people are not as mentally capable than others due to genes etc but i think even if your the worst off person in thw world if you can find something anything that brings positive thoughts into you you should stick with it and aim higher

i think stress is also an issue if we all learnt how to relax are minds and to chill just for a second our vision would be a whole lot clearer

ive read some stuff and they say lots of depression , mental heal,th issues are to do with not battling your stress or oversoming your negative thoughts if we could all do this it would decrease the chance of developing such mental health problem in our fututre lives

just trying to spark some light and debate or conversation cos im interested since my uncle had ocd/severe depression but he seems to be improving now also im trying to chslllenge myself not to be negative and feel emotionally good most of the time

i find i go from negativ e to positive very quickly

[Sabertooth]

Some depression is chemical. No amount of positive thinking will get you out of it when it's the chemicals inside your brain which are messed up.

[OU Student]

(Original post by chrome96)
but i think even if your the worst off person in thw world if you can find something anything that brings positive thoughts into you you should stick with it and aim higher

Easier said than done. Especially when your depression is related to other disorders.

i find i go from negativ e to positive very quickly

Good for you. Unfortunately, depression doesn't always work like that.

[lauren--c]

If you haven't experienced mental health problems then it's easy to say "Think positively and get on with things". But if you're depressed or anxious or whatever else then it can be really REALLY difficult to do that, no matter how much you might want to. Some things really are easier said than done.

[OU Student]

(Original post by lauren--c)
If you haven't experienced mental health problems then it's easy to say "Think positively and get on with things". But if you're depressed or anxious or whatever else then it can be really REALLY difficult to do that, no matter how much you might want to. Some things really are easier said than done.

Exactly. If you have depression, sometimes, there are no positives at all.

[sammy-lou]

This is the kind of ignorance that makes mental health a socially awkward issue.
Not having a go at you OP, but mental health is a HEALTH issue, and in most cases, you can just as easily do away with it by 'positive thinking' as you can do away with cancer or AIDS by 'just thinking on the bright side'.

[chickenonsteroids]

Research it a bit more. I'm sure you didn't make this thread to belittle people with mental health issues but it doesn't always work the way you've put it across.

If you haven't really experienced it then it's easy to make it seem like it's trivial. If you want to use this and this.

You'll have a more educated view on mental health it goes for everyone really, including myself

[chrome96]

(Original post by sammy-lou)
This is the kind of ignorance that makes mental health a socially awkward issue.
Not having a go at you OP, but mental health is a HEALTH issue, and in most cases, you can just as easily do away with it by 'positive thinking' as you can do away with cancer or AIDS by 'just thinking on the bright side'.

**** man your right i never knew....

but still FIGHT THE THING i know its hard to overcome

[chopsticks]

(Original post by chrome96)
i havnt done a ny research so this may not be true , i uderstand some people are not as mentally capable than others due to genes etc but i think even if your the worst off person in thw world if you can find something anything that brings positive thoughts into you you should stick with it and aim higher

i think stress is also an issue if we all learnt how to relax are minds and to chill just for a second our vision would be a whole lot clearer

ive read some stuff and they say lots of depression , mental heal,th issues are to do with not battling your stress or oversoming your negative thoughts if we could all do this it would decrease the chance of developing such mental health problem in our fututre lives

just trying to spark some light and debate or conversation cos im interested since my uncle had ocd/severe depression but he seems to be improving now also im trying to chslllenge myself not to be negative and feel emotionally good most of the time

i find i go from negativ e to positive very quickly

The first statement I fully agree with, wherever you can find something positive it is much much better to focus on that rather than everything negative. The second one however, is proving my point that you don't realise how difficult it is for other people. Not everyone is like you, and it's good that you can go back to positive quickly but some people really can't and have to try to learn through CBT and that sort of thing. I guess the first statement is quite inspiring but I think from the second one that you must not have personally experienced severe depression, it's not just about "finding what you like and sticking to it" because when you are depressed there isn't anything that you like and you just feel completely hopeless. It's good that you're challenging yourself to feel good from your uncle's experience, but take into account that everyone's different.

[chopsticks]

(Original post by chrome96)
**** man your right i never knew....

but still FIGHT THE THING i know its hard to overcome

Also I do like your attitude It's good that you can learn from people and keep an open mind and be positive Good on you

[OU Student]

(Original post by chrome96)
**** man your right i never knew....

but still FIGHT THE THING i know its hard to overcome

double post sorry

You make it sound so easy. How does one overcome depression caused by chemical imbalance?

[bullettheory]

(Original post by chrome96)
i havnt done a ny research so this may not be true , i uderstand some people are not as mentally capable than others due to genes etc but i think even if your the worst off person in thw world if you can find something anything that brings positive thoughts into you you should stick with it and aim higher

i think stress is also an issue if we all learnt how to relax are minds and to chill just for a second our vision would be a whole lot clearer

ive read some stuff and they say lots of depression , mental heal,th issues are to do with not battling your stress or oversoming your negative thoughts if we could all do this it would decrease the chance of developing such mental health problem in our fututre lives

just trying to spark some light and debate or conversation cos im interested since my uncle had ocd/severe depression but he seems to be improving now also im trying to chslllenge myself not to be negative and feel emotionally good most of the time

i find i go from negativ e to positive very quickly

It's not that easy to think positive all the time really. Most people who are mentally ill still do achieve, and "aim high". I try and think positive and whenever I get a good mood I make the most of it and work as hard as I can, but when I am low, it's very difficult to do much, but it doesn't mean I don't try. There is good evidence to show a lot of mental health problems can be biological, in which case thinking positive ain't going to be a cure.

There is a lot of therapy based on challenging negative thoughts, so it can be done, but a lot of people need specialist help.

[animalnitrate]

(Original post by chrome96)
i havnt done a ny research so this may not be true , i uderstand some people are not as mentally capable than others due to genes etc but i think even if your the worst off person in thw world if you can find something anything that brings positive thoughts into you you should stick with it and aim higher

i think stress is also an issue if we all learnt how to relax are minds and to chill just for a second our vision would be a whole lot clearer

ive read some stuff and they say lots of depression , mental heal,th issues are to do with not battling your stress or oversoming your negative thoughts if we could all do this it would decrease the chance of developing such mental health problem in our fututre lives

just trying to spark some light and debate or conversation cos im interested since my uncle had ocd/severe depression but he seems to be improving now also im trying to chslllenge myself not to be negative and feel emotionally good most of the time

i find i go from negativ e to positive very quickly

You really don't understand mental illness

[LipstickKisses]

(Original post by chrome96)
i havnt done a ny research so this may not be true , i uderstand some people are not as mentally capable than others due to genes etc but i think even if your the worst off person in thw world if you can find something anything that brings positive thoughts into you you should stick with it and aim higher

i think stress is also an issue if we all learnt how to relax are minds and to chill just for a second our vision would be a whole lot clearer

ive read some stuff and they say lots of depression , mental heal,th issues are to do with not battling your stress or oversoming your negative thoughts if we could all do this it would decrease the chance of developing such mental health problem in our fututre lives

just trying to spark some light and debate or conversation cos im interested since my uncle had ocd/severe depression but he seems to be improving now also im trying to chslllenge myself not to be negative and feel emotionally good most of the time

i find i go from negativ e to positive very quickly

It's not that easy. If it were, don't you think people would be doing it already? Who wants to be depressed?

[daisydaffodil]

Actually, you make a good point. Part of what you're saying - changing your thinking patterns - is similar to what might be done in a CBT setting. It's hard work and with very severe or chemical depression it might not be of much benefit but it can certainly make a difference. It's not a cure-all, instant fix though.

[turkishdisco]

(Original post by Sabertooth)
Some depression is chemical. No amount of positive thinking will get you out of it when it's the chemicals inside your brain which are messed up.

It's a chicken-and-egg problem though, isn't it? (Richard Bentall describes this kind of problem as 'gallinovular' in Madness Explained btw!)

[The Last Time]

If people could see their parents and their childhoods in an honest light, rather than clouded by the illusions offloaded onto them during, and learn to process the truth healthily and positively then society would see a significant downturn in mental health issues.

Of course it is sometimes chemical. But, statistically, that is in the vast, vast minority of cases and even for some of them it's due to emotional stress in infancy chemically altering the brain.

Ignorant and selfish parenting is at the crux of almost all of society's problems.

[poison.]

i think the whole point is that most of us can just think "hey its fine cause im going to the cinema on tuesday" or "just think positive" as you said..
but if you suffer from depression you CANT do that.
there is a huge difference between feeling up and down, (probably the famous hormonal mood-swings) - we all feel that, and having depression.

[OU Student]

(Original post by The Last Time)
Ignorant and selfish parenting is at the crux of almost all of society's problems.

Rubbish. How do you explain a situation whereby there are three siblings with the same parents, therefore same upbringing and only one of them has depression?

[Origami Bullets]

Mental HEALTH. It's not some kind of 'choice' that the 'weak' make, it's a combination of things like genes, environmental stress (no, not the sort you're thinking of), chemical imbalances, and ****-bad luck. Next I'll be hearing that if only the blind, the learning disabled, people with spina bifida would be miraculously be cured, if only they thought positively. Erm . . .