[chancellorroberts]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-17015966


What an absolute disaster for Scottish football. Did seem inevitable with the way things have been going recently though

[Sephiroth]

The Scottish league will be dead and buried if Rangers go out of existence. I can't believe Celtic seem to think they don't need them. Their TV money would just disappear completely.

I can't see that happening however. If Darlington can survive their mess any club can.

[Celtic_Anthony]

(Original post by Sephiroth)
I can't believe Celtic seem to think they don't need them. Their TV money would just disappear completely.

What TV money? It's a pittance as it is. And the Celtic/Rangers dominance was killing the rest of the league anyway, which was plain to see.

The club is big enough to survive. I'll take Peter Lawwell's opinion over any nameless forum user any day of the week, no offence like.

[Hoops88]

Where about will the checkouts be in the new Tescos?. Where the dug outs used to be?.

[Jordan_1]

To the people in this thread trying to make Celtic fans realise this is bad for Scottish football, don't bother. I have already tried and they are too ignorant.

[Hoops88]

(Original post by Jordan_1)
To the people in this thread trying to make Celtic fans realise this is bad for Scottish football, don't bother. I have already tried and they are too ignorant.

Don't worry you can always pretend Rangers still exist.

[Stu Laverty]

I know the Scottish league was fairly mundane, but this is going to do so much damage to the league.

It's a disaster of a situation.

[Jordan_1]

(Original post by Hoops88)
Don't worry you can always pretend Rangers still exist.

They do exist? You do realise their is a difference between Administration and Liquidation?

[Hoops88]

(Original post by Jordan_1)
They do exist? You do realise their is a difference between Administration and Liquidation?

49 million owed to the taxman, 2 million to Rapid Vienna, 1 million to Hearts, 100K to Dundee Unt, 80k to Dunfermline, no income for the next three years and no chance at winning any silverware. If you think rangers will survive you are deluded. HA HA HA!.

[Fusion]

(Original post by Celtic_Anthony)
What TV money? It's a pittance as it is. And the Celtic/Rangers dominance was killing the rest of the league anyway, which was plain to see.

The club is big enough to survive. I'll take Peter Lawwell's opinion over any nameless forum user any day of the week, no offence like.

I think it's fair to say having a large rival across the city generates a lot of passion and support for Celtic which makes the club money. Obviously they could survive, but I doubt many Celtic fans want them to disappear. And the SPL would be completely dominated by Celtic = one horse race.

[Bowman.Hath]

Ive always said Celtic and Rangers should merge.

[Foghorn Leghorn]

Why the **** aren't they getting relegated?

[Sephiroth]

Of course Celtic fans would love Rangers to disappear. They would win the league every season until forever. But that would just make the SPL an even bigger joke than it currently is. At least with Rangers there is competition and four entertaining big league games per season.

Celtic would rapidly go downhill if Rangers ceased to exist because people would lose interest in the SPL, attendances would fall and TV income would pretty much disappear. It would be about as relevant as the Welsh league. Sure they can try claim they don't need Rangers, but if they want to compete in Europe they need a high income and the death of the SPL wouldn't work in their favour.

As a neutral I've always been a fan of the idea of Rangers and Celtic joining the English leagues. They shouldn't get automatic Premier League status but I'm sure they could come to an arrangement where they get put in the conference. Rangers probably wouldn't be in this mess if they were in a league like the EPL. Then again with the Scottish independance issue looming it's probably not a good idea right now.

[chrissy_h]

(Original post by Foghorn Leghorn)
Why the **** aren't they getting relegated?

Administration only gives a 10 point penalty. Gretna and Livingston only got relegated because they were SFL members and not SPL members when they entered administration. The SFL and SPL have different rules concerning this.

[barnetlad]

I expect Rangers will survive and possibly the only short-term thing might be a couple more years of Celtic winning the league. The crippling thing to Rangers being a challenge to Celtic could be if they have time without European football, as this will make it more difficult to attract players.

As to the question of Celtic, Rangers or any other Scottish club joining leagues with English and Welsh clubs, it is not going to happen as the separate identity of the national sides would be threatened.

[Sephiroth]

(Original post by barnetlad)
As to the question of Celtic, Rangers or any other Scottish club joining leagues with English and Welsh clubs, it is not going to happen as the separate identity of the national sides would be threatened.

I think that's rubbish. Welsh teams in the English leagues have never threatened it.

I'm not sure I'd even oppose a UK football team. We might actually win something being able to pick from a larger pool of talent. The UK is one country afterall and we're meant to be "united". Seriously what benefit does it bring having weak Scottish/NI/Welsh teams that rarely qualify for anything? It would be like the USA having a different team for every state. Silly idea.

[Shortarse1]

I think it's a shame if they do go into administration, they'll only use the 10 point penalty as an excuse for losing the league.

[Jordan_1]

(Original post by Shortarse1)
I think it's a shame if they do go into administration, they'll only use the 10 point penalty as an excuse for losing the league.

You mean the only way Celtic can win the league is if Rangers are totally broke.

[Fusion]

(Original post by Sephiroth)
Of course Celtic fans would love Rangers to disappear. They would win the league every season until forever. But that would just make the SPL an even bigger joke than it currently is. At least with Rangers there is competition and four entertaining big league games per season.

Celtic would rapidly go downhill if Rangers ceased to exist because people would lose interest in the SPL, attendances would fall and TV income would pretty much disappear. It would be about as relevant as the Welsh league. Sure they can try claim they don't need Rangers, but if they want to compete in Europe they need a high income and the death of the SPL wouldn't work in their favour.

As a neutral I've always been a fan of the idea of Rangers and Celtic joining the English leagues. They shouldn't get automatic Premier League status but I'm sure they could come to an arrangement where they get put in the conference. Rangers probably wouldn't be in this mess if they were in a league like the EPL. Then again with the Scottish independance issue looming it's probably not a good idea right now.

You really think Celtic fans would love to see the 4+ old firm fixtures gone every season?

[Keese]

(Original post by Jordan_1)
You mean the only way Celtic can win the league is if Rangers are totally broke.

What was the point turnaround again?