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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadIm going to make a massive assumption here and say that the reason they aren't competitive now is because of lack of resources? So for them to become competitive they are going to need resources to attract good players. Where are these resources suddenly going to come from?(Original post by Celtic_Anthony)
It won't appear overnight, of course, but I would guess that Aberdeen and Hearts would emerge strongest, eventually. You never know, Killie and Motherwell will get better gates as well, as may all the other clubs in the league challenging for trophies and European spots all of a sudden. It is a period of massive uncertainty.
And more importantly, good players aren't going to want to play in the SPL. No one wants to play in an uncompetitive league with the EPL just across the border. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadThe TV revenue could drop by 50% for all I know, what I'm saying is it's a tiny part of out turnover and that 1 million less we get won't be the end of it.(Original post by Good bloke)
You think the overall sponsorship and TV revenue pot will stay at the same levels? I don't. The product will be much less attractive and not nearly as saleable. Other clubs' revenue will fall as they have fewer big, attractive matches to sell and the whole thing will wither away over a few years. Will Celtic fans really want to turn out in big numbers to watch what would be equivalent, in terms of a mismatch, to Chelsea playing Orient or Barnet?
How will playing those games prepare Celtic to play in Europe?
Celtic, crappier league or not, are a very marketable brand and will cope find with sponsorship deals.
We're Celtic fans because we support Celtic. We don't support them because of the opposition teams. Attendances will be fine. We'll have guarenteed European football every season (why is everyone forgetting how much of an income that is?) and we'll likely be league winners...Last edited by R-KAM; 14-02-2012 at 16:24. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadLack of resources, of course, is the main feature. Equally problematic is Celtic and Rangers signing their best 16 year olds and putting them in the reserves for 8 years before selling them to Southend. Greater resources would come from higher gates (honestly, outwith Celtic and Rangers attendences are in terminal decline due to lack of competition, no incentive) and another free European slot. Celtic may also be dealing with less resources than before.(Original post by DaveSmith99)
Im going to make a massive assumption here and say that the reason they aren't competitive now is because of lack of resources? So for them to become competitive they are going to need resources to attract good players. Where are these resources suddenly going to come from?
And more importantly, good players aren't going to want to play in the SPL. No one wants to play in an uncompetitive league with the EPL just across the border.
Celtic have been combating your second point for years too, which is why we buy players from Honduras, Israel, Mexico etc. We are a stepping stone for those good enough to move on. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadRangers won't be getting out of that. They went into administration because £10 million unpaid tax this season alone.(Original post by Good bloke)
No. They have until 31 March to qualify for a licence to play in Europe. Keep up.
They are on the verge (possibly already have, if the financial community is to be believed) of receving a tax bill to the sum of £75 million. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadOnly while the SPL coefficient is high enough. With the other clubs getting in to Europe every season, probably on an alternating basis, and not doing well, that may not last long. Celtic could soon find themselves in a very long and arduous qualification process.(Original post by R-KAM)
We'll have guarenteed European football every season. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadThe co-efficient will remain high enough as long as Celtic perform to a decent level in European football though.(Original post by Good bloke)
Only while the SPL coefficient is high enough. With the other clubs getting in to Europe every season, probably on an alternating basis, and not doing well, that may not last long. Celtic could soon find themselves in a very long and arduous qualification process.
The other clubs can do no worse than Rangers this season, who lost both their ties anyway. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadAnd therin lies their problem. That won't happen. UEFA don't like it, the mass of English football won't like it and, if it happened, they would have to start too far down and wouldn't survive the climb up the greasy pole. In any event, if Scotland becomes independent it wouldn't even be a vague possibility.(Original post by Shack93)
If they do cease to exist I think Celtic should compete in the english leagues. Scottish league would be so boring otherwise. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadA lot of things have happened in the past that cannot happen now. Arsenal were promoted from the middle of the second division once, remember?(Original post by Celtic_Anthony)
Fun Fact: Celtic have previously applied, and been accepted, into the English Leagues. The SFA was threatening to throw us out for flying the tricolour in the 50s, so we applied to Division 4 just in case. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadI wasn't putting it out there as a precedent, just a 'what might have been'.(Original post by Good bloke)
A lot of things have happened in the past that cannot happen now. Arsenal were promoted from the middle of the second division once, remember?
I had forgotten about that! I knew I preferred Spurs for a reason. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadWill Celtic be able to though? You will most likely see a fall in revenues, you're kidding yourself if you cant see that, and an uncompetitive league is not something that attracts talent. With no competition in the league the quality of your football will no doubt decline as well, as the only proper run out players are going to get is in europe and friendlies.(Original post by R-KAM)
The co-efficient will remain high enough as long as Celtic perform to a decent level in European football though.
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Re: Rangers in Administration Threadhehe. I suspect, given the modern English structure, that they would have to enter at the level of the League of the Dartford Tunnel, divison 3. And the opposition would complain about the travel costs.(Original post by Celtic_Anthony)
I wasn't putting it out there as a precedent, just a 'what might have been'.
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadWe currently have a great scouting system in place, offering great young prospects a chance to win titles and compete in european football, where they can make their name for a bigger move down south. Our team showed in the EL this season that we can compete and we've only got better since then.(Original post by DaveSmith99)
Will Celtic be able to though? You will most likely see a fall in revenues, you're kidding yourself if you cant see that, and an uncompetitive league is not something that attracts talent. With no competition in the league the quality of your football will no doubt decline as well, as the only proper run out players are going to get is in europe and friendlies.
Continue to base this all on your opinion though, even without any knowledge or facts to back it up.
Still trust Peter Lawwell more than anyone...Last edited by R-KAM; 14-02-2012 at 16:42. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadNah. Shepherd's Bush.(Original post by Glow in the dark)
Who are Rangers? They play football in Scotland? -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadThe demise of Portsmouth will affect nothing. The demise of Rangers, on the other hand, will cripple Scottish football.(Original post by Celtic_Anthony)
I love how this has attracted more attention than Pompey. Obviously you get shunned as an attention seeker if you do this sorta thing twice. -
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Re: Rangers in Administration ThreadChance to hate on Scottish football cannot be passed up(Original post by Celtic_Anthony)
I love how this has attracted more attention than Pompey. Obviously you get shunned as an attention seeker if you do this sorta thing twice.
P.s Tut tut on preferring Spurs
