[py0alb]

(Original post by Vazzyb)
Even if its right to quit ODI cricket completely fora fit and healthy 31 year old with such a good record (which its not), how can you quit at a time when your country is going to defend their T20 cup in 4 months time? Its so ridiculously selfish. The country makes these players famous and then they piss off over the IPL and leave the country hanging. He could have at least waited until September.

He was never that crucial a T20 player. Just roll a dice and pick 11 players who have done well in this summer's T20 cup and you will have a team capable of winning 5 T20 games in a row.

Its not like it really matters anyway compared to the Test Series against South Africa and then the trip to India later in the year. T20 and ODIs are just a bit of fun.


Its honestly like criticising an England Rugby player for skipping an exhibition 7's match because he wants to focus on the test matches.

[shyamshah]

(Original post by DeadBullyMafiosi)
Dont forget PK's contribution with the ball too!

Oh yeah, he was pretty good! Ishant Sharma bowled well in patches but was never consistent enough.

[py0alb]

I think - finally - we're moving back to the era where ODI's are treated sensibly, as a chance to rest the real cricketers and give a game to 11 youngsters in front of a bit of a crowd and see if any of them were any good.

They should play in fancy dress this summer against Australia I reckon, and maybe have a raffle each game where a member of the crowd gets to be the 11th man and bowl an over against Shane Warne's plastic surgeon.

[DeadBullyMafiosi]

(Original post by shyamshah)
Oh yeah, he was pretty good! Ishant Sharma bowled well in patches but was never consistent enough.

There is something about Ishant I like! But its just that he needs to improve..At times he looks lethal specially when he outbrusted in international arena against the Aussies..but since then he's not learned to perfom CONSISTENTLY and doesnt look like a lethal bowler at all! Really wish Yadav and Aaron are managed with more care and intenstiy!

[shyamshah]

(Original post by DeadBullyMafiosi)
There is something about Ishant I like! But its just that he needs to improve..At times he looks lethal specially when he outbrusted in international arena against the Aussies..but since then he's not learned to perfom CONSISTENTLY and doesnt look like a lethal bowler at all! Really wish Yadav and Aaron are managed with more care and intenstiy!

Yeah, I am sure they will be. I dont think they will both play against England but Yadav probably will, cause we will have Zaheer Khan as well and hopefully they pick Yadav ahead of Ishant, Sreesanth, RP Singh and all the rest! They are the future for India and we need them!

[DeadBullyMafiosi]

(Original post by shyamshah)
Yeah, I am sure they will be. I dont think they will both play against England but Yadav probably will, cause we will have Zaheer Khan as well and hopefully they pick Yadav ahead of Ishant, Sreesanth, RP Singh and all the rest! They are the future for India and we need them!

Yadav has become India's top priority by seletors. See the recent tours he has featured ex. In Australia.-He really impressed me over there-He's one of India' few bowlers who hasnt dropped the 140(alotugh he bowls consistently 145+) mark after being bought in the international arena.
You seen Parvinder Awana is selected for our India A tour to the Windies!

[shyamshah]

(Original post by DeadBullyMafiosi)
Yadav has become India's top priority by seletors. See the recent tours he has featured ex. In Australia.-He really impressed me over there-He's one of India' few bowlers who hasnt dropped the 140(alotugh he bowls consistently 145+) mark after being bought in the international arena.
You seen Parvinder Awana is selected for our India A tour to the Windies!

I am pretty happy with the India A squad, hopefully they can do well there and then get there chance for India. Do you regard Rohit Sharma as a future test batsmen? There is sooo much hype over him, but he has had many chances to keep his place in the team and has failed to do so. I can see the future team to be quite good tbh.

I also think that Zaheer Khan should retire from one form of the game to keep his fitness up, he should probably quit ODIs and carry on in test matches.

[DeadBullyMafiosi]

(Original post by shyamshah)
I am pretty happy with the India A squad, hopefully they can do well there and then get there chance for India. Do you regard Rohit Sharma as a future test batsmen? There is sooo much hype over him, but he has had many chances to keep his place in the team and has failed to do so. I can see the future team to be quite good tbh.

I also think that Zaheer Khan should retire from one form of the game to keep his fitness up, he should probably quit ODIs and carry on in test matches.

He has yet to debut in Tests with India.(Yes he has played many ODI's with India)

Yeah I think once(hopefully sooner than later) he finds his form and UNDERSTANDs pressure and consitency in International cricket he will definately become India's finest batsmen.I find his batting technique better than Kohli's .
Ex-cricketers like Akram,Ramiz Raja,Gavaskar absoulutely adore his tecquinque.Even Tendulker has said in various occasions he is India'future. I think it might be this that he is not perfoming(in ODI's aswell) because of the pressure already on him!

I think after the t20WC no more Zaheer in t20s. And he should decide himself if he can take ODIs. But I definately think he should continue with tests. I still remeber 1st test match(India tour England) on day 1 in the first 11 over(I think) England were 30 odd runs for the fall of 2 wickets-all because of Zaheer! After that it went downhill , he got injured and none of the bowlers performed well!

[ste_mc_efc]

(Original post by py0alb)
He was never that crucial a T20 player. Just roll a dice and pick 11 players who have done well in this summer's T20 cup and you will have a team capable of winning 5 T20 games in a row.

Its not like it really matters anyway compared to the Test Series against South Africa and then the trip to India later in the year. T20 and ODIs are just a bit of fun.


Its honestly like criticising an England Rugby player for skipping an exhibition 7's match because he wants to focus on the test matches.

Being a huge test cricket fan I sort of agree with you, but the problem is that the fact the game lasts only one day makes ODIs (and 20/20) a much more accessible format for a larger number people to attend. So they should be played seriously to keep these people attending and brings money into the game.

Test cricket should always be the pinnacle of the game, but it's nowhere near as accessible for casual fans, it's difficult even for huge fans of test cricket to follow it (be that attending or watching) for all 5 days, because of having lives.

So having a format in which people can attend/watch for one day and it all be over and done with is vital for the continuing popularity of the game. It helps to get youngsters interested in the game.

[shyamshah]

(Original post by DeadBullyMafiosi)
He has yet to debut in Tests with India.(Yes he has played many ODI's with India)

Yeah I think once(hopefully sooner than later) he finds his form and UNDERSTANDs pressure and consitency in International cricket he will definately become India's finest batsmen.I find his batting technique better than Kohli's .
Ex-cricketers like Akram,Ramiz Raja,Gavaskar absoulutely adore his tecquinque.Even Tendulker has said in various occasions he is India'future. I think it might be this that he is not perfoming(in ODI's aswell) because of the pressure already on him!

I think after the t20WC no more Zaheer in t20s. And he should decide himself if he can take ODIs. But I definately think he should continue with tests. I still remeber 1st test match(India tour England) on day 1 in the first 11 over(I think) England were 30 odd runs for the fall of 2 wickets-all because of Zaheer! After that it went downhill , he got injured and none of the bowlers performed well!

I meant he hadn't kept his place in the ODI team, yeah there is such a hype over Sharma and I hope that he proves people like me wrong. I can see Pujara, Rahane, Kohli, maybe Mukund and maybe a few others as the future for us, like Raina in India is a very good batsmen but then away from home he plays rubbish because he cant play the short ball well.

Regarding Zaheer, yeah I totally agree, he should play the T20 world cup and then decide what to do, but he should really retire from ODIs cause I would say that we have enough talent to field a decent attack without him, but in test matches we still need him to lead the attack. If he didn't get injured I am sure we would have done a hell of a lot better.

[You_Just_Might]

(Original post by shyamshah)
I meant he hadn't kept his place in the ODI team, yeah there is such a hype over Sharma and I hope that he proves people like me wrong. I can see Pujara, Rahane, Kohli, maybe Mukund and maybe a few others as the future for us, like Raina in India is a very good batsmen but then away from home he plays rubbish because he cant play the short ball well.

Regarding Zaheer, yeah I totally agree, he should play the T20 world cup and then decide what to do, but he should really retire from ODIs cause I would say that we have enough talent to field a decent attack without him, but in test matches we still need him to lead the attack. If he didn't get injured I am sure we would have done a hell of a lot better.

I don't understand Raina's problem though; in t20 and ODIs he usually smacks short balls for sixes and fours, why can't he play short balls in test cricket?!?


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[shyamshah]

(Original post by You_Just_Might)
I don't understand Raina's problem though; in t20 and ODIs he usually smacks short balls for sixes and fours, why can't he play short balls in test cricket?!?


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Yeah, he should just have the same mentality and go for it.

Love your picture by the way

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[DeadBullyMafiosi]

(Original post by You_Just_Might)
I don't understand Raina's problem though; in t20 and ODIs he usually smacks short balls for sixes and fours, why can't he play short balls in test cricket?!?


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He recently scored a double century in the domestic league. Raina has said in many occasions he wants to improve his game(in Tests) and utimately be a test player for india!
If I am not mistaken in the first test when India toured England he made 70 odd runs..just shows if he commits himself he can!
I love your diplay picture!

[You_Just_Might]

(Original post by shyamshah)
Yeah, he should just have the same mentality and go for it.

Love your picture by the way

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(Original post by DeadBullyMafiosi)
He recently scored a double century in the domestic league. Raina has said in many occasions he wants to improve his game(in Tests) and utimately be a test player for india!
If I am not mistaken in the first test when India toured England he made 70 odd runs..just shows if he commits himself he can!
I love your diplay picture!

haha thanks guys
Really hope that pujara, rahane, raina and co play in the England in India test series, perfect opportunity to bring up their confidence at the highest level.


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[Strangeclouds]

lol at deluded India fans. Raina plays the short ball from Indian medium pacers on batting paradises in the short game well because the ball sits up at an easy height and is just begging to be dispatched. Having genuinely fast bowlers on non-batting paradises get it neck high with fielders around the bat is an entirely different proposition and its this arrogance which he's gained through facing **** bowlers on Indian pitches which is his arrogance. Good bounces get you out even when you try and defend them, and its just folly to impulsively attack them.

[TheProdigy2k9]

I couldn't believe that guy actually tried to argue that Anderson is better then Steyn hahahah. Just can laugh about that to be honest.

Oh and Pak v SL t20 tomorrow will be interesting. Lots of new faces for Pak, **** knows about SL but generally we seem to smoke them in t20s

[♥ ♥ ♥]

Shocker by KP, didn't see that one coming.

Either way, better for Team India without his presence in the shorter form :L

He's done it for his own benefit..somehow?

[py0alb]

(Original post by ste_mc_efc)
Being a huge test cricket fan I sort of agree with you, but the problem is that the fact the game lasts only one day makes ODIs (and 20/20) a much more accessible format for a larger number people to attend. So they should be played seriously to keep these people attending and brings money into the game.

Test cricket should always be the pinnacle of the game, but it's nowhere near as accessible for casual fans, it's difficult even for huge fans of test cricket to follow it (be that attending or watching) for all 5 days, because of having lives.

So having a format in which people can attend/watch for one day and it all be over and done with is vital for the continuing popularity of the game. It helps to get youngsters interested in the game.

When I was a youngster I wasn't interested in ODIs. Like all my friends I only cared about test cricket and the county championship. I don't see why we should be so patronising as to assume that youngsters could only possibly be interested in some pathetic watered down version of real cricket. Its just insulting their intelligence.

If people want a nice summer's evening of short format cricket, that's what the T20 cup is for. At least that is taken reasonably seriously by the players, unlike T20 international friendlies or ridiculous cricketainment like the IPL where players swap franchises every few years.

[Strangeclouds]

(Original post by py0alb)
When I was a youngster I wasn't interested in ODIs. Like all my friends I only cared about test cricket and the county championship. I don't see why we should be so patronising as to assume that youngsters could only possibly be interested in some pathetic watered down version of real cricket. Its just insulting their intelligence.

If people want a nice summer's evening of short format cricket, that's what the T20 cup is for. At least that is taken reasonably seriously by the players, unlike T20 international friendlies or ridiculous cricketainment like the IPL where players swap franchises every few years.

Then you were an awkward youngster.

I was brought up on the diet of subcontinent ODIs and I would sorely miss ODIs if they were to be removed. England have never had a good ODI team and it's no surprise that it's not become a popular form of the game here. Elitist bastards...

[py0alb]

(Original post by Strangeclouds)
Then you were an awkward youngster.

I was brought up on the diet of subcontinent ODIs and I would sorely miss ODIs if they were to be removed. England have never had a good ODI team and it's no surprise that it's not become a popular form of the game here. Elitist bastards...

Why is it elitist not to like a **** version of the game that even the players don't care about and simply go through the motions for a pay check? I think you'll find every professional cricketer, and the vast, vast majority of amateur cricketers agree with me wholeheartedly. How is that elitist? Its just good sense.

Do you mean purist?