[ceezmad1]

(Original post by The Socktor)
To the contrary, look at the world today; countries with atheist majorities are statistically better than those with religious majorities.

Well the Communist pull down our statistics, China is majority atheist still.

We should differentiate between Democratic Atheist countries and Communist Atheist countries.

Atheism by choice is good.

Atheism by force is bad.

[The Socktor]

(Original post by ceezmad1)
Well the Communist pull down our statistics, China is majority atheist still.

We should differentiate between Democratic Atheist countries and Communist Atheist countries.

Atheism by choice is good.

Atheism by force is bad.

Still:

[ceezmad1]

(Original post by The Socktor)
Still:

Hey 3 out of 10 is pretty good in baseball.

[morecambebay]

(Original post by The Socktor)

I couldnt rep you, so I quoted it to make it show up again.

[Grim_the_Reaper]

Personally I think it's hilarious that an unelected adherent of one of the most violent, intolerant 'religions' (Islam) on the planet is lecturing secularists about militancy and intolerance.

Maybe the 'Baroness' should concentrate on stopping the grooming gangs run by her co-religionists, and the persecution of non-Muslims in Islamic states.

[Empire08]

Secularism, a threat. Yes because keeping religious views away from politics in a multi faith society is a bad thing. I suppose we should go back to our 'Christian roots' and push for a ban on homosexuality, because the Catholic church deems it wrong, right?

Sigh.. I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[yawn]

(Original post by NeuralGroove)

**** Baroness Warsi, she's a moron.

...a moron appointed by David Cameron to be a cabinet minister without portfolio and chair person of the Conservative party. Is he a moron too?

[NeuralGroove]

(Original post by yawn)
...a moron appointed by David Cameron to be a cabinet minister without portfolio and chair person of the Conservative party. Is he a moron too?

Do you want my honest answer?

And since when did the trappings of public office confer intelligence upon them? We can both point to contesting presidential nominees in the US as examples for the shallow end of the gene pool that can manage to appease the public.

[adamrules247]

(Original post by binkey)
Examples?

Well the recent attempt by the US govt to force religious organisations to pay for contraception, sterilisation, and abortion

If you're talking about abortion many are now happy - the insurance companies will fund womens' family planning.

You obviously don't bother to follow the news then. No one is happy other than Obama. The US Catholic Bishops reply called the proposal "insulting" and compared it to an accounting trick. And day by day they're joined by more and more critics.

What else are they interfering with? (remembering they have very explicit separation of church and state in the US constitution).

I'm well aware what's in the US constitution thank you. You might like to inform Mr. Obama though.

[ceezmad1]

There is no implicit separation of Church and State in our constitution, Some states do have it and the courts as far as I know have made it so there is a separation like there should be IMO.

Some Justices do disagree.

[Veale]

i think we all know what she was trying to say is that militant religion, in other words islam, is a threat to secularism, democracy and civilisation.